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BladeRunner
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States407 Posts
May 26 2010 06:04 GMT
#21
I'm confused, several people have mentioned it so I figure I should ask.. what's the shift for when using backspace to look through bases? e.g., what's the difference between backspace shift click and just backspace click? I'm assuming you select all your queens beforehand
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
May 26 2010 06:08 GMT
#22
Seems like my set-up is pretty standard then.

1 early game = scouting drone. Late game is units.
2-4 units. Melee on low numbers, range on higher. Casters on 4.
5 all hatcheries
6 all queens.
7-8 rarely used for now. Nydus when I have it.
0-9 first 2 overlords in the early game. Later in the game Overseers.

Mosty shift-backspace for spawn larva macro, although sometimes when I have less queens than hatches, I do minimap casting. otherwise I run the risk of having my queens run all over the place.
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rbkl
Profile Joined March 2010
772 Posts
May 26 2010 06:15 GMT
#23
Should hot keys be distinguished from control groups since now you can have different hotkey sets?

Anyways, my control groups:
1 melee
2 ranged
3 infestors
4 anything else in my army
5 hatch
6 expos
7 nydus
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XFire
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States131 Posts
May 26 2010 06:16 GMT
#24
On May 26 2010 15:04 BladeRunner wrote:
I'm confused, several people have mentioned it so I figure I should ask.. what's the shift for when using backspace to look through bases? e.g., what's the difference between backspace shift click and just backspace click? I'm assuming you select all your queens beforehand


I'm very confused, because I didn't know backspace was used at all. Is there a thread where I can learn all these random new sc2 controls?
gibb
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden288 Posts
May 26 2010 06:18 GMT
#25
Backspaces cycles thru all your hatcheries. Holding shift and pressing V makes it so that you can spam click the LMB and rapidly mash the backspace button for very, very fast inject of many bases.
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LiquidDeth
Profile Joined May 2010
United States18 Posts
May 26 2010 06:21 GMT
#26
On May 26 2010 15:18 gibb wrote:
Backspaces cycles thru all your hatcheries. Holding shift and pressing V makes it so that you can spam click the LMB and rapidly mash the backspace button for very, very fast inject of many bases.



Could someone explain this in layman's terms? I mean really address the lowest common denominator.

XFire
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States131 Posts
May 26 2010 06:22 GMT
#27
Backspace automatically does this, without using a different hotkey or anything? Do you have your queens in a different hotkey that you reselect each time you inject?
reprise
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada316 Posts
May 26 2010 06:23 GMT
#28
1-3 are units (I usually just 1a syndrome with 2 and 3 as flank, casters, air, etc)
4 is all hatches
5-9 is queens and other misc stuff that would be useful

I tried doing separate binds for each hatchery, but I found it a lot faster just to hotkey the queens and inject that way, and I'd just select that queen if I ever need to look at that base. I want closer F keys back =(
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eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
May 26 2010 06:24 GMT
#29
I'm afraid to learn to use the minimap to spawn larvae for fear of having blizzard take away minimap casting like they did to wireframe casting, so I separate all my hatcheries 6-9. Plus it let's you keep an eye on your expansions (and my aim on the minimap is horrible )

Now that I'm reading other posts ^^^ this backspace cycling is intriguing, and I will check it out in the morning.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9572 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 06:36:56
May 26 2010 06:34 GMT
#30
On May 26 2010 15:21 LiquidDeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2010 15:18 gibb wrote:
Backspaces cycles thru all your hatcheries. Holding shift and pressing V makes it so that you can spam click the LMB and rapidly mash the backspace button for very, very fast inject of many bases.



Could someone explain this in layman's terms? I mean really address the lowest common denominator.



H-oK. Pressing Backspace on your keyboard lets you cycle through your hatcheries. It makes your screen center onto a hatchery.
Holding Shift is used for having "V" (inject larvae) always active on your pointer. In other words, shift makes sure that you don't have to v+ckick v+click v+click on every hatchery. Get it?
You just press backspace with shift+v and click, click click click, and all your hatcheries are injected.

I use:
1-4 units
5/6 hatches
7/8 queens
9-0 for important tech structrues or evo chambers.
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NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 06:43:15
May 26 2010 06:41 GMT
#31
On May 26 2010 15:21 LiquidDeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2010 15:18 gibb wrote:
Backspaces cycles thru all your hatcheries. Holding shift and pressing V makes it so that you can spam click the LMB and rapidly mash the backspace button for very, very fast inject of many bases.

Could someone explain this in layman's terms? I mean really address the lowest common denominator.


I can try

First: The set up. Have all your queens in one control group on one hotkey. I have them on 6.

Second: Which buttons to use.
Backspace: This cycles through your hatcheries. If you press it, it will center the screen on the (nearest?) hatchery. If you press it again, it centers on your next hatchery.
V: hotkey for spawn larva
shift: Is used to give multiple commands at the same time. For example: If you hold shift and right click 3 times when holding a units, it will run to the place you clicked first, then run to the second, then run to the third. It is also used for easy casting: You press Y for frenzy, hold shift, and then left click 3 times on 3 different units. Your infestor will cast frenzy 3 times. It is faster than having to Y+click 3 times.

Third: The macro trick:
Press 6 to select all your queens.
Press V.
Hold right shift (with your left hand)
Press backspace to center on your hatch (also left hand)
Left click to spawn larva on this hatch
Press backspace again to center on your next hatch
Left click to spawn larva on this hatch
...


This works best if you have 1 queen / hatch. Otherwise, if you happen to center on the hatch without queen, you could have a queen running all over the place.
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
May 26 2010 06:54 GMT
#32
1-4 units (1 melee, 2 roachs, 3 hydras, 4 air / infestors)
5 all hatcheries
6 all queens (v + map clicking)
7 evo chambers

Maybe i should assign more key to hatcheries to pump drone more effectively?
inTheMood
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway128 Posts
May 26 2010 07:08 GMT
#33
1-3 units
4 all hatch
5 main queen + hatch
6 second queen + expo hatch
7 third queen + expo hatch
8 fourth queen + expo hatch
9 evo chamber

4 s ddddd = macro drones on all hatcheries (or mass units e.g: 4 s hhhhhrrrrr)
spawn larva = 55 v click, 66 v click, 77 v click, 88 v click. All hatcheries with larva injection in less then a second.

Thanks to PsY for this hotkey setup
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Sikozu
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium10 Posts
May 26 2010 07:19 GMT
#34
1-4: scout/units
5: all hatcheries
6: queen of main
7: queen of expo
8: queen of ...

works more or less the same as post above this
mattolo
Profile Joined May 2010
12 Posts
May 26 2010 09:19 GMT
#35
1 hatcheries
2 queen
3 queen
4 queen
5 queen
6 lings
7 casters
8 k1
9 k2
0 overseer

6 -0 change depending on what neeed
Necrosjef
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom530 Posts
May 26 2010 09:42 GMT
#36
I use:

1-4 Units

5-9 Hatches

Buttons on Mouse for Queens.

This allows me to double tap hatch and press queen and spawn larva very fast.

I tried doing it with all hatch on one key and all queen on 1 key using minimap spawn larva but that only really seems effective for me when I have 3+ hatch, on 1-2 hatch then my method seems to suit me better, means you can rally units from different hatches to different places too.
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towerranger
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria134 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-26 09:54:08
May 26 2010 09:53 GMT
#37
On May 26 2010 15:01 baeracaed wrote:

Do you use the right CTRL to set the F-keys?



nono, i use left ctrl

i could hit left ctrl f9 too without a problem
FuryX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia495 Posts
May 26 2010 09:55 GMT
#38
man backspace is so far away! i think i might rebind it using my g15 logitech software....
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
May 26 2010 09:56 GMT
#39
1 Main
2 Nat
3 Both (later, all)
4 3rd
5-7 Units

Early game: 2-3 scout/OL

I need to eventually just ditch 1 and 2 probably...
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Newti
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland71 Posts
May 26 2010 09:57 GMT
#40
On May 24 2010 08:58 uniquee wrote:
1-4 as units; 5 hatcheries; 6 queens. Minimap spawn larva ftw


Exactly this.
1 for Lings/Roaches/Ultras ("Melee" or low range in general)
2 for Hydras
3 for Air or Banelings
4 for Infestors

Once you have more than 2 bases Minimap larva is soooo much faster. And even for 1 or 2 bases its not slower.
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