EPTIt is certainly possible that if a mouse/keyboard can store a macro that it could be made to run a sequence of key stokes to play out a simple AI (e.g. making a script for 6 pool ling rush wouldn't be very hard for a specific map). Obviously when taken to this extreme it should be considered cheating.
How cheated is a Gaming Mouse with Macro ? - Page 8
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Equalizer
Canada115 Posts
It is certainly possible that if a mouse/keyboard can store a macro that it could be made to run a sequence of key stokes to play out a simple AI (e.g. making a script for 6 pool ling rush wouldn't be very hard for a specific map). Obviously when taken to this extreme it should be considered cheating. | ||
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tYsopz
Norway215 Posts
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rS.Sinatra
Canada785 Posts
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
On May 23 2010 06:42 Paramore wrote: you can run AI scripts all you want against me.. i dont remember the last time i lost to the computer on insane mode... gl hf... You're too cute to insult.  | ||
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Grebliv
Iceland800 Posts
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Monzterg
Sweden257 Posts
I consider it cheat if you reduce the ammount of work you need to do to preform a task. So if you can do multiple things with one click I think that is cheating. Moving buttons from your keyboard to your mouse I wouldnt consider cheat at all as it doesnt reduce the number of tasks you have to preform but simply moves the buttons around. Ive actually made the button left of 1 on my keyboard work as 0. And CAPSLOCK work as CONTROL. And I do not think this is cheating. So I think you can move buttons like 5 6 7 8 9 0 A etc to your mouse and noone will complain about that. | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
On May 23 2010 06:54 Grebliv wrote: You won't be able to use it if you ever get to play anything that really matters (Lan for $$$), and if you don't end up doing that what are you gaining?(If you think maphacking is a good idea this is like that x 0.000001), a tad more e-respect from some random people against the knowledge that you're not really playing entirely fair. So a 20k+ TSL didn't really matter because it was an online tournament? :D K, no more 1-liners. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
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SchOOl_VicTIm
Greece2394 Posts
Anything more complicated than that is probably too much on the "cheating" side | ||
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Nutshell
United States41 Posts
On May 23 2010 07:00 Mothxal wrote: The funny thing is that macros actually make the game harder.Some of you seem to seriously consider banning people for using native functionality of widely used hardware. I highly doubt using a G500 (I have one) this way, which allows you to pick a few tasks in the game and do them better, would ever make a serious impact on the game. Maybe all professional players would need such a mouse, but if they're serious, why not get a gaming mouse anyway? | ||
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
Autosplit, MBS,endless waypoints, multiple tasks, auto army spread and stuff, Smart Casting, big numbers of units (armies) on ONE hotkey, no need to be that accurate when grabbing units when building/using spells an such, and now a Macro Mouse??? Geez   What about Speech Recognition/Voice Commands?, seriously if we get there I just wont play the game. | ||
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Diks
Belgium1880 Posts
2 (select marauders) right click (you move you marauders) wait xxx ms (where xxx is reload shot time of marauder) H wait YYY ms (where YYY is the animation time of a shot) right click (you move you marauders) and so on there you have a macro for PERFECT marauder kiting controle So : Mouse macro also allows easy non-human timed micro controle | ||
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LeX-
Canada49 Posts
On May 23 2010 07:00 Mothxal wrote: Some of you seem to seriously consider banning people for using native functionality of widely used hardware. I highly doubt using a G500 (I have one) this way, which allows you to pick a few tasks in the game and do them better, would ever make a serious impact on the game. Maybe all professional players would need such a mouse, but if they're serious, why not get a gaming mouse anyway? No problem bind any key you want to ONE action (ie pressing 4 or pressing D) But do not use this buttons for pressing more than one key (4ddd) for example. People have been banned for this in other blizzard games can you can imagine this can happen here. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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LeX-
Canada49 Posts
On May 23 2010 07:05 danbel1005 wrote: Sometimes I just dont know what to think, cuz to be honest I love the game but looking at this stuff makes me sad and confuses me a lot. I mean, we are getting really close to the point where SC2 will be a game "no skills-required". Autosplit, MBS,endless waypoints, multiple tasks, auto army spread and stuff, Smart Casting, big numbers of units (armies) on ONE hotkey, no need to be that accurate when grabbing units when building/using spells an such, and now a Macro Mouse??? Geez What about Speech Recognition/Voice Commands?, seriously if we get there I just wont play the game. Talking is much slower than pressing a key. | ||
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MythicalMage
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Nutshell
United States41 Posts
ive attempted to use these sort of things just for the novelty value of them across various games and ive yet to play a game where it's actually a realistic benefit to use these things (of course i dont play any mmos, so they might help there) Everyone is so focused on whether or not it's cheating to realize that these macros just don't do anything special. You're better off just doing it without macros. They don't need to ban tying your shoelaces together in professional baseball because nobody is dumb enough to think it helps you play better.they're all far too situationally specific to actually get any long term use out of, you're gonna become frustrated with it pretty soon. Either that or its a negligible difference, some guy used building a depot as an argument, i can do that in under half a second anyway, those extra few ms don't make a difference. | ||
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DarkFenix
217 Posts
On May 22 2010 21:50 JohnQPublic wrote: Blizz has specifically stated in the past that if you create macros that push more then one button then they will ban your account for it. It has happened to countless people in wow and its not even very useful for anything there. I guarantee that this won't be an issue as warden is very good at detecting anything of this sort, even random intervals (if the mouse is even capable of that) are fairly easy to detect because of the input methods they use. http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=14551555&postId=145201989&sid=1#0 I myself got a temp ban for using a macro on my nostromo just for logging in automatically, and I'm sure the rules will be even stricter in sc2. Yeah, Im pretty sure it will be stricter. However, I wouldn't have guessed they were able to detect and ban this sort of behaviour in wow. Is blizzard doing the same thing on Wc3? | ||
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rS.Sinatra
Canada785 Posts
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collegeBored
United States1524 Posts
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