Patch 13 Discussion - Page 47

On May 21 2010 22:19 Mutaahh wrote:
[...]imagine thors being frenzied

On May 21 2010 22:42 MidKnight wrote:

I guess their idea is to allow corruptors to kill stuff like collosi, BCs or mothership even faster, but it's just not interesting at all.

On May 21 2010 22:40 da_head wrote:


not out yet.

On May 21 2010 22:50 QueueQueue wrote:
It's a shame we're going to get this patch, and have the beta come down shortly after.

Curious to see what zerg play may change to.

On May 21 2010 22:45 Seltsam wrote:
Is it just me, or are these leagues starting to sound suspiciously like Pokemon games?

On May 21 2010 22:46 101TFP wrote:


# Targets a single biological unit which deals 25% more damage...

On May 21 2010 22:54 Mutaahh wrote:



kk sorry, I always read to fast.
But I wonder what 10 infestors can do with a nice hydra army, should be strong!

On May 21 2010 22:42 MidKnight wrote:Don't get me wrong, I love W3 and I think summoner abilities work quite well there.But this is SC universe.Spells are supposed to be ground-breaking and decide battles.
These minor buffs/debuffs and useless summoner abilities just suck

On May 21 2010 22:56 zoltanium wrote:

BW had plenty of minor spells.
Off the top of my head,
Medic Spells
D Matrix
Queen Spells.

On May 21 2010 23:04 Stratos_speAr wrote:


Spawn Broodling was used to take out Tanks and Templar quite often, and Ensnare was brutal agains M&M. D Matrix was also the shit, definitely turning the tide of more than one battle...

This makes me think that the balance managers don't actually play the game, but just watch the whining on the forums. Nerf to VRs is fine, Frenzy on Infestors, fine.

Now, Zerg is the most powerful macro race in the game right now, but you just gave them the ability to absolutely wreck any protoss ground army by spamming ultras and walking straight over force fields or any attempt at micro that Protoss can use, AND you give them the ability to use the EXTREMELY early and cheap (cost wise) Overseer to completely destroy the macro potential of the other player is @!!@ing ridiculous. Fly 3 Overseers into base early, %#%@ on all producing structures, set person behind 30 seconds while you macro up and maybe lose 1 Overseer.

The balancing of the Ultra is also stupid, their power is in their ability to ABSORB AOE DAMAGE, something not even the roach can claim. They beat Psi Storm, Colossi, Tanks, etc, so you're taking away the ONE THING THEY'RE GOOD AT then give them the ridiculous ability to walk over force fields and @!!@ up their damage for no good reason.

What the HELL is the idea with making Stimpack cheaper? You think it was an under-utilized ability or that Terran bio was underused/underpowered?

ARE WE PLAYING THE SAME @!!@ING GAME?

On May 21 2010 22:42 MidKnight wrote:
Spells like Frenzy and Corruption abilities have no place in StarCraft universe...AT ALL.
Look at BW, all the spells there are ground-breaking if used correctly (except for blind or broodlings I guess).

Storms, ensnare, maelstrom, lockdown, distruption web, stasis, recall, swarm, plague etc.


Of course most of these spells weren't use simply because of the hard SC mechanics (no smartcasting, no tab to cycle through your units i.e.).
Even JD mentioned, that he would like to use queens with ensnare in lategame ZvT, but it simply takes too much effort.Using defilers alone takes away a huge amount of APM and focus.

These shitty % increases/decreases encourage W3 kind of gameplay.25% increase is nice, but it is only useful on "big units", like ultras and broodlords.
Corruption ability for corruptor is still a joke.
I guess their idea is to allow corruptors to kill stuff like collosi, BCs or mothership even faster, but it's just not interesting at all.

I like that they recreated overseer as an additional zerg caster though.

Ultras will still suck balls..Their main problem is that they die SOO fast to marauders/immortals.They can't get close enough to do that damage.
Now it will be even harder..
I like that Blizz has the balls to implement these extreme changes this late in the beta (especially with the upcoming few week beta hiatus, which means there will be even less time to test these changes), but I really wish they stopped making these minor "buff" abilities.



I mean, seriously, these sort of abilities are straight from WoW."Immune to snare, stuns and mind control".How many of these are in the game?
Stuns..Hmm.250 MM cannon?
What about snares?Fungal growth?
And mind control?
Oh yea, infestor is the only one with that..
2 out of 3 abilities only work in ZvZ.Guess what, ZvZs don't last that long.Also considering the only units worth frenzying are ultras and broodlords, this ability is seriously plain out stupid.

Oh, and they also should get rid of shitty summoner abilities as well.Auto-Turret and infested terran are just BAD.
Too W3-ish.

Don't get me wrong, I love W3 and I think summoner abilities work quite well there.But this is SC universe.Spells are supposed to be ground-breaking and decide battles.
These minor buffs/debuffs and useless summoner abilities just suck

On May 21 2010 23:12 junemermaid wrote:
I can see ultralisks doing a lot better, now.