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For all of You wondering how the patch will feel in a high level game i propose watching
+ Show Spoiler + MLG King of the Hill Series - Slush vs Qxc.
Its obvious that given time possible solutions will be found. But that losses were ... total is a good word I guess. In the end Day[9] we all love and respect told that when looking at a maxed zerg army it looked/felt 120-140ish.
If that is to work, I believe zerg needs some other 1 supply unit. Possibly buffing roach further (just like when beta was released) and nerfing hydras a little for a total zerg remap ... but that would feel really BWish
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Am i stupid or is it new that Roaches or Hydras got new Animations on attacking if they are CLOSE Range to a Target? Try to put them as close as possible to a Target and attack, they attack with MELEE Attacks instead of shooting... lol i never saw this before actually.
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On May 15 2010 05:39 nodq wrote:
Am i stupid or is it new that Roaches or Hydras got new Animations on attacking if they are CLOSE Range to a Target? Try to put them as close as possible to a Target and attack, they attack with MELEE Attacks instead of shooting... lol i never saw this before actually.
Pretty sure it's been like that for a long while (hydras at least, didn't notice roaches).
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Does Blizzard only make balance changes based on 2000+ Korean platinum players or something?
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Yeah, Roaches have been melee'ing close-range stuff for a while now.
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On May 15 2010 05:39 nodq wrote:
Am i stupid or is it new that Roaches or Hydras got new Animations on attacking if they are CLOSE Range to a Target? Try to put them as close as possible to a Target and attack, they attack with MELEE Attacks instead of shooting... lol i never saw this before actually.
yeah been that way since the beginning of beta.
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On May 14 2010 02:55 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2010 02:53 Jdanzi wrote:
lol @ people compaining that roaches will be useless now, it will simply cost 100 more minerals to make 10 roaches now, hardly a huge nerf... And you will hit 200/200 twice as fast?
If you were making an all roach army before.
The change is really an early game nerf; once they implement the Ultralisk buff Zerg will have a late game tank. The only problem I have right now is that Roach is such a lost unit. Why does it even have a worthless hive-tech upgrade?
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proposal: roaches need to be moved to tier 2, but given +2 additional armour and a little decreased damage, so they fill their role as a tank. plus free burrowed movement. hydralisks get moved to tier 1 but get their damage reduced a little, while their upgrade stays at t2, gets a little increased cost (like 50 minerals, 25 gas more) but also increases the hydralisks damage back to normal.
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Roach needs to be one supply, no armor, with burrowed regen not an upgrade (and ESP not at HIVE tech o_O). Then it will get back its place in the game as a not OP, micro-intensive unit.
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with 4 roaches having more HP than one ultra, id rather have roaches as hive tech and ultras at lair -.-
big gas saver, too
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On MaY 15 2010 05:55 heishe wrote:
proposal: roaches need to be moved to tier 2, but given +2 additional armour and a little decreased damage, so they fill their role as a tank. plus free burrowed movement. hydralisks get moved to tier 1 but get their damage reduced a little, while their upgrade stays at t2, gets a little increased cost (like 50 minerals, 25 Gas more) but also increases the hydralisks damage back to normal.
I like this idea, though any air units deployed against zerg are going to get utterly destroyed. No more void ray rushes for protoss. 
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TvT in craftcup finals with 6 terran and 2 zerg making it to the last 8.
A sign of things to come?
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Decent Ts I've played are already owning up with tanks, it's getting super hard. I see no use for roach until midgame, mostly when I go muta (easier than hydra on gas). Soo useless atm.
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Move ultras to T2, cleave + new ability they are getting are upgs at hive. Infestor is T3, but gets some major buffs.
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anyone else having a problem viewing there own matchist since patch 12?
prior to that i coount not view some other ppls matchlist, but now i still cant view some others matchlist and how my own aswell
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yeah..... how the fuck you counter a well timed 4 warpgate now?
besides 10 pool mass lings -_-
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On May 15 2010 08:02 Ultraling.WarZ wrote:
yeah..... how the fuck you counter a well timed 4 warpgate now?
besides 10 pool mass lings -_-
Spine crawlers. lots of them
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anyone who wants to see these changes in action watch the MLG KOTBH with Slush vs qxc, at 200/200 it was a complete joke. Not to mention Slush could barely handle the early game harass. It was quite sad compared to his performance vs cauthonluck last week.
I'm not saying this is a large enough sample size to deduce the change is completely bad, but at this moment it seems pretty detrimental to myself and other zerg players.
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Surprisingly for me, the Thor change is super awesome. It no longer feels like a massive expensive hulk of a unit. It feels like a nice Terran unit which makes me so happy.
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welp, there goes roach rush
There goes roaches being useful*
There goes roaches being OP*** =P
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