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On May 15 2010 04:08 Bane_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2010 03:44 bellaisa wrote:On May 14 2010 16:59 guitarizt wrote:
What day said about all the euros being friendly I've found to be true. There's so many bm people on the us server and I haven't had one person on asia server gg yet, but people seem more mannered and I get way more gg's on the euro server which is why I'll be playing there as much as possible. Does getting a "gg" mean that much to you? seriously? Is it so hard to believe? You're not playing a machine after all even if you have no real contact with the other person so it's nice to acknowledge that fact. After playing pretty much any other game/sport you would walk over and shake your opponents hand at the end of a match, so why does it suddenly become so hard to show that basic level of respect and type in gg? Is it not 'real' because it's online?
Why is the opponent typing gg considered respectful? It was originally "good game". In the era where players typed it out, would you consider an opponent who simply abbreviated it to be "bad mannered," because he didn't take the time to type the full words? What about the koreans/other asians that type ww or such, is that "disrespectful," because they don't take the time to type out Gs?
Seriously the fact that it is considered bad manners to not type gg is rediculous, simlpy leaving the game in a timely fashion is good enough. What about those people that stay around with lifted buildings, and then right before you kill their last CC, they type gg. Are those players better mannered than players who leave right away when they've clearly lost?
typing gg is just a formality, and "bad manner" or "good manner" are stupid terms, as manners in society are different depending on where you come from.
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I think for a while, the top players on all servers were somewhat equal, but the average scrub on EU/US was far below the average Asia player. Although the latter is probably still true, i think the EU vs Asia matches are showing that Asia are slowly but surely pulling ahead at the top level.
On May 13 2010 16:12 willeesmalls wrote:
Also the worse you are, the faster you get better. Lower tier players definitely have improved since the beta came out.
This is so true. I was Copper, and have fought my way up to Plat/Diamond in ~150 1v1's. Since getting there though i've seen very little improvement in my play, it seems you have to have extreme attention to detail to really improve.
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in starcraft 1 half of game strats have been developed by foreigners.
but after years those mass gamers of korea start to become the top players.
how many of u know the earlier days of top canadian player Grrrr... in korea. he used to be a super pro. but in years his mouse and keyboard skills were not good enough to match with koreans. Chinese ppl have awesome skill on table tennis. thats same with koreans playing computer games. their eye-brain-hand combination is genetically better than any other races. if you have seen a korean progamer playing live (i dont mean replay neither steam) u can understand that you are actually NO MATCH to them. its like putting god on computer and make him play starcraft. that was how crazy they look like.
sc2 is still the same. Sooner or later when ppl relaise the best way to play it, it will up to mouse&keyboard skill and who is smarter comptetion just like sc1 was.
now the coming 2 years can be ours (foreigners). but rest will be dominated by koreans that is for sure...
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Typing gg is basic common sense, just like a handshake.Why is this so hard to understand?
Not typing gg is called a ragequit and is bad-mannered.
I never understood why some people are so stubborn about such a simple thing.
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On May 24 2010 04:39 Cheezy wrote:
Typing gg is basic common sense, just like a handshake.Why is this so hard to understand?
Not typing gg is called a ragequit and is bad-mannered.
I never understood why some people are so stubborn about such a simple thing.
Thank you, my thoughts exactly. Really, just imagine after a soccer game, players line up to give each other handshakes but the losers just completely ignore the winners and walk past them to the locker room. It's just bad-mannered.
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I should have wrote that out better. I didn't mean that not saying gg is bm, I just meant that there's a ton of bm people on us server who will tell you to leave or tell you you only won with cheese, ect and the not saying gg thing was separate. I went through a stage where I was practicing early pools and the only people who sometimes gave me a gg when they lost were on eu server. I don't consider the people who didn't say gg bm I just thought it was interesting that I did get some gg's from the euros even if they lost to a 6 pool.
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On May 24 2010 04:39 Cheezy wrote:
Typing gg is basic common sense, just like a handshake.Why is this so hard to understand?
Not typing gg is called a ragequit and is bad-mannered.
I never understood why some people are so stubborn about such a simple thing.
That's your opinion. There are different customs in Asia.
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On May 24 2010 04:56 buhhy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2010 04:39 Cheezy wrote:
Typing gg is basic common sense, just like a handshake.Why is this so hard to understand?
Not typing gg is called a ragequit and is bad-mannered.
I never understood why some people are so stubborn about such a simple thing. That's your opinion. There are different customs in Asia.
? Koreans always gg in pro matches, etc.
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On May 24 2010 03:38 Legendary- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2010 16:30 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
LET IT BE KNOWN!
The great debate: Which server has a stronger bronze division: ASIA
what a relief! This is why iNcontroL is a quality poster lol. Its damn true guys. I jumped on a stream the other day wheere TT1 was gold and everyone cried oh no asia is hard TT1 is gold and he's top of his plat in US. While he was alt tabbing and checking the forums during load times so he can see when US server is up lol.
u obviously never played on asia to see how much the lag affects your gameplay, you lag while the game speed is perfectly fine for your opponent
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On May 24 2010 04:57 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2010 04:56 buhhy wrote:On May 24 2010 04:39 Cheezy wrote:
Typing gg is basic common sense, just like a handshake.Why is this so hard to understand?
Not typing gg is called a ragequit and is bad-mannered.
I never understood why some people are so stubborn about such a simple thing. That's your opinion. There are different customs in Asia. ? Koreans always gg in pro matches, etc.
Yeah but it's the internets so I don't expect much. Still there was a different vibe with bw on iccup but I know this isn't bw. I have a tendency to go bm orb/lalush style but it's still refreshing to seel well mannered people and I'm not bm unless someone says something that tilts me first.
But to stay on topic, if you're good at sc and you don't rely on some cheesy bo to win then the I'd say the us server is the weakest of the three but the differences are small. There's some weird tendencies by people on different servers though like the harass and micro is much better on asia and on eu their build orders seem more crisp to me. The eu people didn't seem as proactive about scouting so I'd try to sneak a third base somewhere more often than usual. Maybe they just don't have as many maphackers as us server.
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or maybe it's just because you're playing on a laggy server while they're playing on a local server. hmm, did you ever think of that possibility? and the fact that TONS of people, including myself, who never really played many RTS are playing it here and learning the ropes, while starcraft is like korea's halo/call of duty
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i'm diamon on asia and it's rough as hell. the main problem in diamond is that the strategies are so vastly different than in US so i have to relearn every race. my US playstyle was a problem vs asia, though i've gotten alot of surprise wins of people unused to US style.
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