EPTAnger after losses - Page 5
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apm66
Canada943 Posts
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ManiacTheZealot
United States490 Posts
Some people rage at the person they're playing against. This is because the computer dehumanizes the person they're playing against. If you have this problem make an attempt to humanize your opponent at the start of the game. Have a short conversation with them and wish them luck. If you start to care how they feel and identify with them you will be less likely to be mean to them. The reverse also works if you don't think you can identify with them you can choose to not talk at all so as not to communicate your negative feels to them. Most bad mannered people you meet IRL aren't bad mannered because when you're actually in front of them talking they see you as a person rather than text in a chat room. | ||
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Papvin
Denmark610 Posts
On May 09 2010 00 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 00 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:53 Mentat wrote: Getting angry while playing video games lol you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. Just wanted to point out that you're a fucking retard, and I certainly hope you'll recieve a temp for this. Why the fuck shouldn't you be able to be mad playing a video game? Is is stupid being mad after a defeat in a soccer match where you felt you weren't playing your best? Just because you play the game once a day and don't care about it at all doesn't mean it can be something people have as a core hobby, or even playing competitively. Moron. | ||
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omninmo
2349 Posts
A nger multiplies upon itself and provides zero nourishment G ames such as SC2 require skill cultivation so losses become free lessons E veryone gets beat and rightly so... because they were out-played. Learn to out play your opponent. | ||
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Papvin
Denmark610 Posts
On May 09 2010 01 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 01 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:22 Mentat wrote: I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. Of course he thinks you're a troll. Noone able to actually write shoudn't be this stupid. | ||
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Dingo_egret
Brazil97 Posts
On May 08 2010 23:02 Zeht wrote: i have sort of the same issue. I'm a really calm person but pretty competitive. I hardly ever rage. I have some really bad anxiety problems irl and it seems to transfer over to some games. just thinking about laddering i will get physically nauseous and stressed out. Getting nauseous at the start of every game is just not a good feeling.. once im settled into the game its not so bad, but it picks right back up at or near the end of a match. Sc2 Ladder, havent even played my placement matches, I play with friends and its not as bad WoW Pug Raids and Arena. Raids with my guild i have no problems. BG's and LFD are also no problem. But Pug raids and doing arena give me so much anxiety i just avoid them altogether much like sc2 ladder. and before LFD i would avoid pug heriocs. FPS I can play with no problems... but this is also the genre im best at so i have a lot of faith in my abilities I know some of this maybe silly to others. it's even silly to me. so im on a mission to find out how to conquer my sc2 anxiety! and use that experience to help overcome other anxiety related issues. we'll see.. Long post below... I have a very similar problem... I do feel very nervous when playing ladder, but actually getting myself to play is the real hard part. I don't actually get nauseous but I make all kinds of excuses to myself like I'm too tired, I need to practice X matchup or X strategy first, I'm not feeling like it, etc., but in reality all that it is is that I'm too scared to play. Even though I recognize that and tell myself that it is incredibly silly to get so worried about some beta with stats that will get reset anyway and even if they didn't nobody would care, I still treat it waaaay too seriously. Sometimes I even feel like it's not about the stats, like Knap said, it's something about playing some complete stranger on the internet whose skills you have no idea of while trying to play as good as you possibly can to win... it feels pretty stressful for us I suppose. It's just something in my head. As for intrigue's tip... the idea is good but once I tried the 6 rax reaper build on the ladder (with proxy rax and everything on steppes of war, just like that game by... demuslim I think) and my opponent just killed it so easily... he had a chrono'd stalker on the way by the time I got there and my bad micro + his probe micro = I died soon after. I didn't feel crushed or anything, I recognize I micro'd badly but just saying sometimes the opponent might know how to react and then it might not work so well ><. Also like some people said, FPS games are pretty easy to deal with (at least for me). You die, oh well, you wait to respawn. Keep getting killed for whatever reason? If it's not an actual match, just leave the server and pick another one, it's not like you get a loss added to a permanent record for leaving. The fact that the game is continuous also relieves the tension somewhat as well... if some dude kills you, you can go and kill him as soon as you get back. If your team loses, who cares (again, if it's not a clan match)? I think that, in the end, it's the ladder aspect that may be a little crushing for some people (like me). It seems... overwhelming, I suppose, no matter how meaningless the ladder may be. For example, DotA I could play in pubs in Garena nonstop pretty much. After a while I stopped caring if someone was feeding, I almost never got really mad after a loss, and even when I did in 10 minutes of doing something else I was good to go. But HoN is a different story... due to the fact that you need to keep winning to maintain a decent rating (1700+) to play with the better players, and you could very quickly lose a lot of it if you lost a few games in a row, it got even more stressful than SC did, especially because soooo many things can go wrong in these kinds of games (Hon/dota I mean). In the end, I pretty much only played no stats games, because even though 90% of the players there were either pretty bad, leavers or something like that, at least I didn't feel the need to really win. If anyone has gotten over this, though, give us tips like intrigue did, we want to know =) | ||
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Fen
Australia1848 Posts
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m3rciless
United States1476 Posts
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mtvacuum
United States979 Posts
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The6357
United States1268 Posts
and almost always I come to conclusion.."it was just a game" and i'm happy | ||
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Wi)nD
Canada719 Posts
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
Just watch your own replays after the game. That way you know it was your own damn fault. | ||
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Mr.E
United States434 Posts
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arb
Noobville17919 Posts
On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote: I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. | ||
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DrSmoke
United States175 Posts
-Edison Just because you lose a game (any game) or don't succeed at first is not a failure, or even a bad thing. This is a key tenant of science, you cannot find what works, without finding what does not. If you approach every match "afraid to lose" than your play will stagnate from fear of trying new things. This is not the way to do anything, let alone SC. | ||
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Setev
Malaysia390 Posts
On May 08 2010 20:15 ghosthunter wrote: I usually call the other person something mean before leaving, and then review my loss and keep playing. I still have yet to ever beat a marine marauder medivac timing push as zerg, but practice practice practice! As a note, it's mainly if I get crushed by something tedious. Like MMM balls. God I hate MMM balls... I find very few of my games that I lose to actually be close in skill, which is entertaining/ Well, then you have to stop saying mean things to people when you lose to them because they might not appreciate it, plus it shows you are not gracious. But then again, like Idra, we do need people like that to spice up the SC competitive gaming scene. XDXD | ||
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yomi
United States773 Posts
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Kratisto
United States199 Posts
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Red7z7
United States74 Posts
I think a lot of the rage stems from the emotional attachment to each game. In RTS, if you have the wrong mindset during a game then you'll basically be building up tension for 15 minutes. If you end up losing the game quickly at the end it's like a shock to your system and that tension will become anger. I used to find myself extremely tense after playing, especially if the game was close or if I was losing. Even if I won, I would be trembling and my heart rate would be really high. This made it hard to play continuously throughought the day because it simply would be taxing my health to be on edge for that many hours. If I played before I went to bed then I would get nightmares just because my heartrate was too high before I slept. Some things I've found to help reduce tension: -Never expect to win a game. Expecting to win is pretty silly in the first place, since there is no way you can win every game, but it also is the primary source for anger when you lose a game. When the game starts I always remind myself that I'm playing to play my best, not playing to get a win. If you start losing games it becomes really tempting to try to play just for a win, but you have to resist that. -Make it a goal to reach some number of losses. I don't mean try to lose. you should still try to play your best, but make a tally of your losses and see if you can reach some limit. Losses are your most valuable tool, and if you can appreciate them then you probably won't get as angry. Your number of losses is a great indicator of how much experience you have. -Make the game a more social experience. This means play with a friend nearby, or be on ventrilo so you can vent the tension by talking during each game. Or play against a friend. That's the best. It really puts the "seriousness" of the game in perspective. -Only play for appropriate blocks of time. For me, its like an hour and a half. I play like 4 games and then take a break for at least an hour doing something else. This way you don't get too attached to the game. -Play some music in the background. This works wonders for keeping you calm during the game. -Have a mental plan for every scenario. The times I find my adrenaline rushing are when something I don't expect happens, like an all-in rush, a drop, or suddenly losing a battle I thought I could win. If you expect these things to happen before they do, its tremendously easier to stay calm. -Scout actively. This is entirely related the previous point. You will feel so much more comfortable if you know what the opponent is up to. Even if you see you're losing, then at least you will be able to accept that fact ahead of time rather than getting overwhelmed all at once later on, which will probably make your heartrate skyrocket and make you rage. Hope this helps :D | ||
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