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On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:On May 09 2010 00:53 Mentat wrote: Getting angry while playing video games
lol
you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont.
getting mad over forum posts is a new low
just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol.
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The difference is because in this game its all on 1 person, and that is you. If you lose it is your fault and no one else. If you miss micro its your fault. If your forget to macro its your fault.
In an fps a large majority of the time it played as a group and if one player does a great job and his team loses. He can just say hell I did well and its not my fault that my team lost, but it was the rest of the teams' fault for not doing well.
That is the difference between FPs and RTS is the pressure on yourself and knowing that no matter what no one else can help you, your on your own and its all on you.
RTS are for clutch players in an FPs, the players that can win a 1vs6 with a minute left before game ends and defuse the bomb or protect it. There is no other thing like it.
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On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:On May 09 2010 00:53 Mentat wrote: Getting angry while playing video games
lol
you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. such a cute troll kek kek
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To ghosthunter, I didn't mean to say anything bad about you, just that I feel that people should ALWAYS maintain game etiquette, even after suffering the most humiliating loss. Good luck to your zerg play btw.
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On May 09 2010 03:34 DrSmoke wrote: I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
-Edison
Just because you lose a game (any game) or don't succeed at first is not a failure, or even a bad thing.
This is a key tenant of science, you cannot find what works, without finding what does not.
If you approach every match "afraid to lose" than your play will stagnate from fear of trying new things. This is not the way to do anything, let alone SC.
Funny because I actually work in science and this is the attitude I bring to science. It's wierd how I can spend 5 hours in a windowless room only to see the thing I've been working on fail at the absolute moment of truth and just shrug it off. But when I lose in starcraft it feels like I'm being slowly strangled.
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I type out gg. Being polite helps me get over my loss, keep perspective on the game, and preps me to tackle the reason why I lost. Keeping myself humble.
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I usually laugh or giggle when I lose for stupid reason. A little bit of distance and irony towards yourself and the game helps not to take all of this too seriously.
I remember that in my first month on BW, I was shacking in every duel.
Starcraft is fun, but it's not your life. There are worse things than sucking at a video game. I mean, I hope for you unless you are a pro-gamer.
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intrigue
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you invest a lot of yourself into every game of starcraft, both physically and mentally so it's very humbling when you lose despite how brilliant and fast you fancy yourself. if you are not used to brutal, instant feedback (win/loss) it can be a huge shock to the ego. this is why rts players are so incredibly prone to blaming 'cheese' and imbalance! it's a defense mechanism that you have to learn to resist.
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On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:On May 09 2010 00:53 Mentat wrote: Getting angry while playing video games
lol
you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol.
banhammer of total annihilation please...
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Perhaps Artosis should have a look at this topic.
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On May 09 2010 06:17 heishe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:On May 09 2010 00:53 Mentat wrote: Getting angry while playing video games
lol
you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. banhammer of total annihilation please... I don't think he should be banned. It's hard to admit but in a way he is right, raging at a video game or even in a forum discussion is childish and a bit ridiculous, even if it's human and it happened to all of us.
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On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 06:17 heishe wrote:On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:On May 09 2010 00:53 Mentat wrote: Getting angry while playing video games
lol
you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. banhammer of total annihilation please... I don't think he should be banned. It's hard to admit but in a way he is right, raging at a video game or even in a forum discussion is childish and a bit ridiculous, even if it's human and it happened to all of us. Unless you think raging over anything is ridiculous (which can be true in theory), I think you are quite wrong. If you care for something like starcraft and want to be good at it, it's so natural to rage when things doesn't go your way. I'm not saying you should just embrace the rage and crash your keyboard and monitor every time you get cheesed, but I'm saying that you thinking people are silly raging "just cause it's a videogame", you should be agree that it's silly to rage at any interest you have. Which I don't think you'd agree on.
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On May 09 2010 06:41 Papvin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 09 2010 06:17 heishe wrote:On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:On May 09 2010 00:53 Mentat wrote: Getting angry while playing video games
lol
you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. banhammer of total annihilation please... I don't think he should be banned. It's hard to admit but in a way he is right, raging at a video game or even in a forum discussion is childish and a bit ridiculous, even if it's human and it happened to all of us. Unless you think raging over anything is ridiculous (which can be true in theory), I think you are quite wrong. If you care for something like starcraft and want to be good at it, it's so natural to rage when things doesn't go your way. I'm not saying you should just embrace the rage and crash your keyboard and monitor every time you get cheesed, but I'm saying that you thinking people are silly raging "just cause it's a videogame", you should be agree that it's silly to rage at any interest you have. Which I don't think you'd agree on.
there's nothing natural about getting angry and "raging" over something you play to have fun. What we have there is life without moderation. The problem arises when one takes games so seriously that it affects their emotional health.
once again, people who get angry over video games have issues greater than their inability to play the game, which is only a symptom of their anger.
argue against this, use unsolicited references to try and justify your position. Either way you're failing to acknowledge that you have a problem.
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On May 09 2010 06:47 Mentat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 06:41 Papvin wrote:On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 09 2010 06:17 heishe wrote:On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:On May 09 2010 00:53 Mentat wrote: Getting angry while playing video games
lol
you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. banhammer of total annihilation please... I don't think he should be banned. It's hard to admit but in a way he is right, raging at a video game or even in a forum discussion is childish and a bit ridiculous, even if it's human and it happened to all of us. Unless you think raging over anything is ridiculous (which can be true in theory), I think you are quite wrong. If you care for something like starcraft and want to be good at it, it's so natural to rage when things doesn't go your way. I'm not saying you should just embrace the rage and crash your keyboard and monitor every time you get cheesed, but I'm saying that you thinking people are silly raging "just cause it's a videogame", you should be agree that it's silly to rage at any interest you have. Which I don't think you'd agree on. there's nothing natural about getting angry and "raging" over something you play to have fun. What we have there is life without moderation. The problem arises when one takes games so seriously that it affects their emotional health. once again, people who get angry over video games have issues greater than their inability to play the game, which is only a symptom of their anger. argue against this, use unsolicited references to try and justify your position. Either way you're failing to acknowledge that you have a problem. You don't seem to understand people aren't like you. You fail to see some people here are in not only for the fun, but also for the competition. People don't get angry at the videogame, they get angry because of the competition. I don't get angry myself because I'm bad at the game, and I don't have any interest in playing the game seriously, so it's only natural that I don't care as much about my losses. It's not a problem, it's different reasons to play the game. You shouldn't take your own feelings and opinions as the standard.
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On May 09 2010 07:09 Fumi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 06:47 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 06:41 Papvin wrote:On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 09 2010 06:17 heishe wrote:On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:On May 09 2010 00:53 Mentat wrote: Getting angry while playing video games
lol
you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. banhammer of total annihilation please... I don't think he should be banned. It's hard to admit but in a way he is right, raging at a video game or even in a forum discussion is childish and a bit ridiculous, even if it's human and it happened to all of us. Unless you think raging over anything is ridiculous (which can be true in theory), I think you are quite wrong. If you care for something like starcraft and want to be good at it, it's so natural to rage when things doesn't go your way. I'm not saying you should just embrace the rage and crash your keyboard and monitor every time you get cheesed, but I'm saying that you thinking people are silly raging "just cause it's a videogame", you should be agree that it's silly to rage at any interest you have. Which I don't think you'd agree on. there's nothing natural about getting angry and "raging" over something you play to have fun. What we have there is life without moderation. The problem arises when one takes games so seriously that it affects their emotional health. once again, people who get angry over video games have issues greater than their inability to play the game, which is only a symptom of their anger. argue against this, use unsolicited references to try and justify your position. Either way you're failing to acknowledge that you have a problem. You don't seem to understand people aren't like you. You fail to see some people here are in not only for the fun, but also for the competition. People don't get angry at the videogame, they get angry because of the competition. I don't get angry myself because I'm bad at the game, and I don't have any interest in playing the game seriously, so it's only natural that I don't care as much about my losses. It's not a problem, it's different reasons to play the game. You shouldn't take your own feelings and opinions as the standard.
by your logic it's equally as appropriate to become enraged when watching starcraft replays and tournament streams.
Sorry but no.
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my secret is to leave my house on occasion
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i've learned to actually get less mad more often now in general. usually there really is no point whatsoever to get mad, it's just a waste of your own emotion. now, saying this doesn't mean i don't get mad when i lose, i just get "less" mad when i do haha. the only thing that i can think of now is to prepare yourself because YOU WILL LOSE GAMES!
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lol that therapy can cure ANYONE!
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On May 09 2010 06:47 Mentat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 06:41 Papvin wrote:On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 09 2010 06:17 heishe wrote:On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:On May 09 2010 00:53 Mentat wrote: Getting angry while playing video games
lol
you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. banhammer of total annihilation please... I don't think he should be banned. It's hard to admit but in a way he is right, raging at a video game or even in a forum discussion is childish and a bit ridiculous, even if it's human and it happened to all of us. Unless you think raging over anything is ridiculous (which can be true in theory), I think you are quite wrong. If you care for something like starcraft and want to be good at it, it's so natural to rage when things doesn't go your way. I'm not saying you should just embrace the rage and crash your keyboard and monitor every time you get cheesed, but I'm saying that you thinking people are silly raging "just cause it's a videogame", you should be agree that it's silly to rage at any interest you have. Which I don't think you'd agree on. there's nothing natural about getting angry and "raging" over something you play to have fun. What we have there is life without moderation. The problem arises when one takes games so seriously that it affects their emotional health. once again, people who get angry over video games have issues greater than their inability to play the game, which is only a symptom of their anger. argue against this, use unsolicited references to try and justify your position. Either way you're failing to acknowledge that you have a problem.
While you do have a problem when rageing, it isn't due to what you describe. Would you say that the elite athletes who cry after having lost a match are also having a mental problem? Or those who slam a wall in the locker room? Sure some bottle it up, but EVERYONE get these feelings where they just have to get away and can't handle taking question/talking about their sport. If they didn't act like that they wouldn't be elite athletes because they wouldn't be competetive enough, BUT equally, if they didn't move on, they wouldn't improve either.
My point? It is fine to feel angry, heck it is natural if you are in any way competetive (not the swarmlike rage known from WoW), but you should also learn yourself to let it go so that it doesn't interfere with your game.
But how do you do that? A) Saying "it's just a game" might work for some, personally it doesn't, not when I play SC, not when I play badminton. B) Realise that if you want to play up to your max, you have to calm yourself as you play better that way C) Take it out on an absurd imaginary thing. My badmintoncoach taught me, before I participated in my first major tournament that the best way to psych an opponent is to stay calm no matter what happens. Then you can take it out afterwards by biting the lockerroom door. And this is where the imaginary thing comes in. The thought of a door with bitemarks all over always seemed so hilarious to me that I simply couldn't get/stay angry.
So to sum up, don't get angry at yourself for getting angry - it's natural if you are a die-hard competitor, instead accept it, channel it (sounds idiotic I know, but it can actually be used to get more in "the zone" during a game (i.e. I get pissed when I see 6-rax reaper, so I promise myself that he won't kill more than 2 of my workers) and then move on when.
This is obviously all speaking from my own experience, and obviously I use a mix of the 3, A mostly for when I'm nervous and in the sense "I'll just play like it was a training match", B and C for actually "bad loser" issues. I can't guarentee that it'll work for everyone, but having talked with some of our national badmintonplayers it seems like the "happy-place" (C) is pretty common.
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On May 09 2010 06:41 Papvin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 09 2010 06:17 heishe wrote:On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:On May 09 2010 00:53 Mentat wrote: Getting angry while playing video games
lol
you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. banhammer of total annihilation please... I don't think he should be banned. It's hard to admit but in a way he is right, raging at a video game or even in a forum discussion is childish and a bit ridiculous, even if it's human and it happened to all of us. Unless you think raging over anything is ridiculous (which can be true in theory), I think you are quite wrong. If you care for something like starcraft and want to be good at it, it's so natural to rage when things doesn't go your way. I'm not saying you should just embrace the rage and crash your keyboard and monitor every time you get cheesed, but I'm saying that you thinking people are silly raging "just cause it's a videogame", you should be agree that it's silly to rage at any interest you have. Which I don't think you'd agree on. Yes yes yes, obviously, it's ridiculous to rage on anything.
Point is, I think people rage at Starcraft because it is an ego issue to them. If they lose or win means something. That's what I find a little silly. Even if you really like Starcraft and spend a lot of time playing, it is such an unsignificant thing to win or lose a game compare to soooo many things in life.
So raging because you girlfriend has slept with your best friend is somehow more understandable than breaking your keyboard because you couldn't do anything about that dt.
Obviously all this doesn't apply to people who really play starcraft very competitively such as top foreigners and pro-gamers, who have more interest involved than their pride or their ego.
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