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On May 09 2010 08:58 Papvin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 08 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 08 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:47 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 09 2010 06:41 Papvin wrote:On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 09 2010 06:17 heishe wrote:On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:On May 09 2010 00:53 Mentat wrote:
Getting angry while playing video games
lol
you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. banhammer of total annihilation please... I don't think he should be banned. It's hard to admit but in a way he is right, raging at a video game or even in a forum discussion is childish and a bit ridiculous, even if it's human and it happened to all of us. Unless you think raging over anything is ridiculous (which can be true in theory), I think you are quite wrong. If you care for something like starcraft and want to be good at it, it's so natural to rage when things doesn't go your way. I'm not saying you should just embrace the rage and crash your keyboard and monitor every time you get cheesed, but I'm saying that you thinking people are silly raging "just cause it's a videogame", you should be agree that it's silly to rage at any interest you have. Which I don't think you'd agree on. Yes yes yes, obviously, it's ridiculous to rage on anything. Point is, I think people rage at Starcraft because it is an ego issue to them. If they lose or win means something. That's what I find a little silly. Even if you really like Starcraft and spend a lot of time playing, it is such an unsignificant thing to win or lose a game compare to soooo many things in life. So raging because you girlfriend has slept with your best friend is somehow more understandable than breaking your keyboard because you couldn't do anything about that dt. Obviously all this doesn't apply to people who really play starcraft very competitively such as top foreigners and pro-gamers, who have more interest involved than their pride or their ego. Okay, I see your point. Identifying yourself with your gaming skills is obviously bad for your mental health, since there should be more important things going on in your life. But I don't agree that everyone who rages do it because of they feel their ego's hurt. Simply, I think that it's just chemical. You're playing intensely, trying your hardest to win, putting your entire focus in this one game you play against some random person on the ladder. The adrenaline is pumping, and suddenly you get killed. You rage now, not because you feel you're worth nothing because you're not as good as you thought at the game that defines your life, but because your pumped with adrenaline and can't control the chemicals, resulting in irregular things, such as raging. That's what I think most people are experiencing when raging in sc. After like 10-15 mins, the adrenaline (or whatever it is causing the feelings) are gone, and you realize it was indeed silly, but nonetheless, it's feelings you couldn't just ignore. You felt them, and the best you can do is not let it out on others. That's what I meant  .
Yes I understand.
I think I am immune to rage with Starcraft cuz I suck way too much (never got better than C in two years and half) and care way too little even to get adrenaline while playing. I also have to say that I admire people who can control themselves and keep their mind clear in every situation (which is not alway my case).
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On May 09 2010 18:59 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 08:58 Papvin wrote:On May 09 2010 08 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 08 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:47 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 09 2010 06:41 Papvin wrote:On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 09 2010 06:17 heishe wrote:On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:
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I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. banhammer of total annihilation please... I don't think he should be banned. It's hard to admit but in a way he is right, raging at a video game or even in a forum discussion is childish and a bit ridiculous, even if it's human and it happened to all of us. Unless you think raging over anything is ridiculous (which can be true in theory), I think you are quite wrong. If you care for something like starcraft and want to be good at it, it's so natural to rage when things doesn't go your way. I'm not saying you should just embrace the rage and crash your keyboard and monitor every time you get cheesed, but I'm saying that you thinking people are silly raging "just cause it's a videogame", you should be agree that it's silly to rage at any interest you have. Which I don't think you'd agree on. Yes yes yes, obviously, it's ridiculous to rage on anything. Point is, I think people rage at Starcraft because it is an ego issue to them. If they lose or win means something. That's what I find a little silly. Even if you really like Starcraft and spend a lot of time playing, it is such an unsignificant thing to win or lose a game compare to soooo many things in life. So raging because you girlfriend has slept with your best friend is somehow more understandable than breaking your keyboard because you couldn't do anything about that dt. Obviously all this doesn't apply to people who really play starcraft very competitively such as top foreigners and pro-gamers, who have more interest involved than their pride or their ego. Okay, I see your point. Identifying yourself with your gaming skills is obviously bad for your mental health, since there should be more important things going on in your life. But I don't agree that everyone who rages do it because of they feel their ego's hurt. Simply, I think that it's just chemical. You're playing intensely, trying your hardest to win, putting your entire focus in this one game you play against some random person on the ladder. The adrenaline is pumping, and suddenly you get killed. You rage now, not because you feel you're worth nothing because you're not as good as you thought at the game that defines your life, but because your pumped with adrenaline and can't control the chemicals, resulting in irregular things, such as raging. That's what I think most people are experiencing when raging in sc. After like 10-15 mins, the adrenaline (or whatever it is causing the feelings) are gone, and you realize it was indeed silly, but nonetheless, it's feelings you couldn't just ignore. You felt them, and the best you can do is not let it out on others. That's what I meant . Yes I understand. I think I am immune to rage with Starcraft cuz I suck way too much (never got better than C in two years and half) and care way too little even to get adrenaline while playing. I also have to say that I admire people who can control themselves and keep their mind clear in every situation (which is not alway my case).
Obviously, it's important to differentiate what one means by "rage". I mean... smashing your head against the window after a lose is probably a little bit atypical I'd think. But beeing angry / a little mad after you lost a game is something very natural I'm sure. In fact, I'm pretty sure that if you spend a LOT of time playing and simply training Starcraft 2, you should be very worried if do NOT feel any kind of emotional response after a lost game whatsoever.
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Professional athletes takes breaks after every game they play. It gives them time to recuperate physically and emotionally. My friends who get upset when they lose at golf don't play golf everyday. Maybe you should put the game away for a few days if you find yourself raging? I don't mind losses if I haven't touched a game in a few months, but if I have a binge session with a video game, I find that I get shaken over the loss, but I also don't step back. I end up playing more games to replace the loss which can make me even more irritated if I lose those games.
Here's another thought. Maybe you've reached your peak and it's time to take up something else as a hobby?
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i play a few custom LT games after some frustrating loses. helps me cheer up.
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On May 10 2010 06:36 uiCk wrote:
i play a few custom LT games after some frustrating loses. helps me cheer up.
Always a strong self esteem boost. Has anyone here ever lost a random opponent custom game? I know I sure haven't. The play is god awful 95% of the time.
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i used to get mad in sc;bw, but now its more calming just because in sc;bw regular games were around 12-18minutes... now for me most of my games end around the 7-12 min mark
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On May 09 2010 14:21 Drk_ItachiX wrote:
Losses suck for like 5 minutes but at the end of the day losing is always another step in the process to get better.
qft
LEARN from your mistakes. and be the best in the end.
However the problem with Starcraft is, there are so many mistakes to make.
It's very difficult to master the game.
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I only rage when I feel like I lost to something that's stupid in design.
Like the new goddamn hellion range. I don't care if it's balanced or not, I think it's dumb to have a SINGLE unit find your 15 transferring drone and kill all of them in seconds which costs you the game.
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I think people rage because we have egos and we don't like feeling like we just wasted the past 40 minutes because now we just 0-3'd, and at best the next 40 minutes will only be to break even ;\
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On May 10 2010 08:57 FabledIntegral wrote:
I only rage when I feel like I lost to something that's stupid in design.
Like the new goddamn hellion range. I don't care if it's balanced or not, I think it's dumb to have a SINGLE unit find your 15 transferring drone and kill all of them in seconds which costs you the game.
Blizzard specifically said that the range has not been increased. The aoe range is actually the same, auto-attacking with the hellion just makes it shoot when it's at the tip of it's range.
Not really a buff or nerf except to a-move. But who a-move harass units anyways.
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i rage when i lose to Zerg.. i alt-F4 and stop sc2 for a few hours before going back to ladder grinding again.. i'm at a 20% winrate vs zerg ( meaning i lose about 80% of my vZ games )
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On May 09 2010 12:22 GiantEnemyCrab wrote:
u should never get angry over video games since video games dont get you anywhere, whether u win or lose, if u didnt have fun, well the game did more bad then good.
This is nonsense, there is no such thing in life as a hobby or project that will always make you happy and sneeze rainbows and dancing hobbits.
Ofcourse one should always manage their anger if you get angry, but you should not give up a game just because you are not always happy after every game. If you get upset by loosing then it just shows that you care and if you don't get angry you may care just as much but just not be as emotional. But to quit everything that has the potential to make you mad when things are not going well? Man we would still be living in caves if everyone had that attitude.
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On May 08 2010 19:26 Tidesson wrote:
The rage comes when you fail to realize the reason why you lost. Believe it or not, theres always a reason. You can't expect to always win and losing is a core part of the game, when it happens the best thing you can do is go watch the replay and see why you lost. At that point is when you are really learning the game, as winning games will not teach you anything. When you learn how to make your losses constructive then you will start moving forward. Sometimes when you play for too long you will build up a lot of stress, its the nature of starcraft, as your senses will get saturated. When that happens just go take a break.
Worst case of rage for me comes when I know what I did wrong and I know there's no way for me to fix it besides just flat out getting better. There's nothing worse than realizing that your skill level had plateau'ed and no matter how much you are playing, practicing, watching replays, and attempting to improve your play, you are going to be inferior to the top percentage of players out there. It's what made me quit war3 after playing at a high amateur level, it's what is going to make me quit sc2 once I get to that point.
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The only unit that makes me rage is banshees. I can't get over their health pool.
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In my experience, "raging" after a lost has a lot to do with the mindset you are bringing in to a match. Logging on just to play a few casual games for fun, or logging on dead focused on climbing the ladders.
I guess I also still believe that the person that I'm playing against is a decent person. Two fellow human beings playing a game to be entertained.
But... you know, I enjoy winning a lot more than losing. Sorry anonymous player, GG. But congrats if you pull out a win.
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I've been dropping games because of my internet left and right, including the last 3 I just played. TALK ABOUT RAGE.
But in general I get very angry when I lose, I usually have to just stop playing for a little while and take my mind to a different place, a place where starcraft doesn't matter at all. Usually the real world.
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The two games I play the most are Starcraft 2 and Team fortress 2.
It's easier to take a loss in tf2, because it is unranked, and even when I do lose, most I can blame it on my team .
In starcraft losses are tough, because I am always putting my all into the game to try to increase my rank. THere is much more pressure, even though it is only beta. Also when I lose, it is my fault completely. Somewhere in the game, I made a bad move, or didn't scout right or something along those lines. Also, when I lose 1 game, I generally go on a losing streak after because I am discouraged.
I find the best thing to do when you are losing and getting pissed is quit and play a less competitive game like tf2 or take a short break.
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Recently, I've been frustrated almost every game. It could be because I keep losing to stupid VR/Phoenix builds as Zerg, that seem completely imba and unstoppable.
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In the beginning I really gave a shit about losing, just because I knew that I couldn't do it better because I totally sucked...
But now that I more or less know my way around (1400+ silver ladder, yes, still not awesome) and realize that I lose because I made some stupid mistake I really give myself a hard time and tend to hit things around me 
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