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On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:47 Mentat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 06:41 Papvin wrote:On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 09 2010 06:17 heishe wrote:On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:On May 09 2010 00:53 Mentat wrote:
Getting angry while playing video games
lol
you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. banhammer of total annihilation please... I don't think he should be banned. It's hard to admit but in a way he is right, raging at a video game or even in a forum discussion is childish and a bit ridiculous, even if it's human and it happened to all of us. Unless you think raging over anything is ridiculous (which can be true in theory), I think you are quite wrong. If you care for something like starcraft and want to be good at it, it's so natural to rage when things doesn't go your way. I'm not saying you should just embrace the rage and crash your keyboard and monitor every time you get cheesed, but I'm saying that you thinking people are silly raging "just cause it's a videogame", you should be agree that it's silly to rage at any interest you have. Which I don't think you'd agree on. there's nothing natural about getting angry and "raging" over something you play to have fun. What we have there is life without moderation. The problem arises when one takes games so seriously that it affects their emotional health. once again, people who get angry over video games have issues greater than their inability to play the game, which is only a symptom of their anger. argue against this, use unsolicited references to try and justify your position. Either way you're failing to acknowledge that you have a problem.
Once again, I think you're failing to see what I'm trying to say. Sorry for calling you a retard and all that, I was just angry at the simplistic way you flamed the op without any justifying argument. Here's my point:
Your main point is (correct me if I'm wrong), "it's just a video game you play for fun, raging about that is not normal". Well, many people sees the game as more than "just fun", they actually try to get good at it, thinking through their errors, discussing with other people about strategies and stuff. I would have no problems looking at playing starcraft as to play a sport competitively, and again, I think that you would agree people being down after losing in a sport they care about, feel down, or even get mad. Getting mad is of course just chemicals, but nonetheless, it exists, it's a core part of being competitive in anything, so saying it's just stupid and childish is wrong, imo. Hope we can clear the air in this discussion a bit.
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Lrn 2 meditate ? or medicate, lol
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On May 09 2010 08 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 08 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:47 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 06:41 Papvin wrote:On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 09 2010 06:17 heishe wrote:On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:On May 09 2010 00:53 Mentat wrote:
Getting angry while playing video games
lol
you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. banhammer of total annihilation please... I don't think he should be banned. It's hard to admit but in a way he is right, raging at a video game or even in a forum discussion is childish and a bit ridiculous, even if it's human and it happened to all of us. Unless you think raging over anything is ridiculous (which can be true in theory), I think you are quite wrong. If you care for something like starcraft and want to be good at it, it's so natural to rage when things doesn't go your way. I'm not saying you should just embrace the rage and crash your keyboard and monitor every time you get cheesed, but I'm saying that you thinking people are silly raging "just cause it's a videogame", you should be agree that it's silly to rage at any interest you have. Which I don't think you'd agree on. Yes yes yes, obviously, it's ridiculous to rage on anything. Point is, I think people rage at Starcraft because it is an ego issue to them. If they lose or win means something. That's what I find a little silly. Even if you really like Starcraft and spend a lot of time playing, it is such an unsignificant thing to win or lose a game compare to soooo many things in life. So raging because you girlfriend has slept with your best friend is somehow more understandable than breaking your keyboard because you couldn't do anything about that dt. Obviously all this doesn't apply to people who really play starcraft very competitively such as top foreigners and pro-gamers, who have more interest involved than their pride or their ego.
Okay, I see your point. Identifying yourself with your gaming skills is obviously bad for your mental health, since there should be more important things going on in your life. But I don't agree that everyone who rages do it because of they feel their ego's hurt. Simply, I think that it's just chemical. You're playing intensely, trying your hardest to win, putting your entire focus in this one game you play against some random person on the ladder. The adrenaline is pumping, and suddenly you get killed. You rage now, not because you feel you're worth nothing because you're not as good as you thought at the game that defines your life, but because your pumped with adrenaline and can't control the chemicals, resulting in irregular things, such as raging. That's what I think most people are experiencing when raging in sc. After like 10-15 mins, the adrenaline (or whatever it is causing the feelings) are gone, and you realize it was indeed silly, but nonetheless, it's feelings you couldn't just ignore. You felt them, and the best you can do is not let it out on others. That's what I meant  .
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On May 08 2010 19:15 Steamboatlol wrote:
Hey, so I'm sort of new to competitive RTS' but I've been getting the hang of SC2 and am hanging out about 100 points above everyone in my silver league. my record isn't too bad but I'm finding that I am taking losses really hard. It's just like mentally and a little bit emotionally draining and I just feel like punching my monitor in. Now I've played FPS games for quite some time but I've always taken losses in stride there and kept on playing.
Anyways my question is how do you guys keep from raging after losses (note: I'm not bad mannered to other players just sort of hard on myself)? I mean I try to take a lesson away from each loss but I just get so damn mad and it's stressful.
I really think it is just a big part of the game, and improving. Starcraft obviously gets you on your competitive edge, and when you lose a couple games in a row it get really frustrating.
Basically, just try not to take it so hard, and also maybe take a break after losing a few in a row if that ever happens.
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On May 09 2010 07:31 Mentat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 07:09 Fumi wrote:On May 09 2010 06:47 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 06:41 Papvin wrote:On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:On May 09 2010 06:17 heishe wrote:On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote:On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote:On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote:
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I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. banhammer of total annihilation please... I don't think he should be banned. It's hard to admit but in a way he is right, raging at a video game or even in a forum discussion is childish and a bit ridiculous, even if it's human and it happened to all of us. Unless you think raging over anything is ridiculous (which can be true in theory), I think you are quite wrong. If you care for something like starcraft and want to be good at it, it's so natural to rage when things doesn't go your way. I'm not saying you should just embrace the rage and crash your keyboard and monitor every time you get cheesed, but I'm saying that you thinking people are silly raging "just cause it's a videogame", you should be agree that it's silly to rage at any interest you have. Which I don't think you'd agree on. there's nothing natural about getting angry and "raging" over something you play to have fun. What we have there is life without moderation. The problem arises when one takes games so seriously that it affects their emotional health. once again, people who get angry over video games have issues greater than their inability to play the game, which is only a symptom of their anger. argue against this, use unsolicited references to try and justify your position. Either way you're failing to acknowledge that you have a problem. You don't seem to understand people aren't like you. You fail to see some people here are in not only for the fun, but also for the competition. People don't get angry at the videogame, they get angry because of the competition. I don't get angry myself because I'm bad at the game, and I don't have any interest in playing the game seriously, so it's only natural that I don't care as much about my losses. It's not a problem, it's different reasons to play the game. You shouldn't take your own feelings and opinions as the standard. by your logic it's equally as appropriate to become enraged when watching starcraft replays and tournament streams. Sorry but no.
I have no idea how you got to that conclusion. You're weird.
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Best thing to do if you get particularly mad about something that happens in game is to take a break for a day or so and then come back to the replay with a fresh frame of mind and objectively look at what you did wrong, learn from it and proceed. If you think you got cheesed somehow then take a look at pro replays of the same match-up and look to see if a similar situation a pro also gets cheesed or if they counter the 'cheese'. If they counter how did they do it?
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Wow, I think people are really blowing this out of proportion. It's not like I'm getting crazy angry and smashing things and hurting people. Maybe it's more of an intense frustration than anger. Anyways I just started playing random just to make myself lose...a lot. It's amazing how helpless I am outside of the timing's of toss (no I do not just play one build). It really gives me mad respect for people like TLO who can play random at a top level.
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On May 08 2010 19:15 Steamboatlol wrote:
Hey, so I'm sort of new to competitive RTS' but I've been getting the hang of SC2 and am hanging out about 100 points above everyone in my silver league. my record isn't too bad but I'm finding that I am taking losses really hard. It's just like mentally and a little bit emotionally draining and I just feel like punching my monitor in. Now I've played FPS games for quite some time but I've always taken losses in stride there and kept on playing.
Anyways my question is how do you guys keep from raging after losses (note: I'm not bad mannered to other players just sort of hard on myself)? I mean I try to take a lesson away from each loss but I just get so damn mad and it's stressful.
Go out to the mall or club and hit on the HOTTEST girls. And hit on them.
(Learn to fail and move on)
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I find when I get mad at a game they are usually long games that I put in everything I had into it but lose control and end up getting totally rolled. I'm sure those are the most frustrating losses for most people.
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I feel like this thread is precarious now hahaha.
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artosis vs slush thread rerouted here
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I honestly have never had a problem with emotions or anger before playing this game. That's not an exaggeration.
I suppose the reason it gets to me is because I'm not a competitive gamer or person, but am forced to be one by this game. I've played games and sports my entire life and have been decently good at most of them without trying and just playing was entertainment enough, but I feel that I am not very good at the Starcraft II beta (or am playing far below the level that I think I should be at) and want to improve.
It's really strange. I don't know how a damn game can invoke emotions in me like this, but I can give a tip to help deal with it: play some nice music in the background to calm you down. When I'm paying equal attention to the music and the game I not only play better, I feel better. I've been listening to aphex twin, prefuse 73, flying lotus, and other instrumental music with weird rhythms and time signatures...
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by your logic it's equally as appropriate to become enraged when watching starcraft replays and tournament streams.
Sorry but no.
Are you being idiotic on purpose? Competition refers to competing, not watching other people compete.
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Herb is the answer...you won't care about losing. It will be "all good". 
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u should never get angry over video games since video games dont get you anywhere, whether u win or lose, if u didnt have fun, well the game did more bad then good. anyway enjoy it but dont play it too much cuz its end up being a waste of life because u will have no memories of each game u played...thatz why i dont play too much multiplayer anymore. if u cant have memories then the game was a waste of my life ;D sounds pretty discouarging but whatever have fun! ;D
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I've never been angry after a loss before, so I can't really tell both sides of the story. When I lose, I sorta just say to myself "oh ok, I'll throw up a second stargate next time I see about 50 mutas.", I don't see what's to be angry about. I suppose it's because I'm a casual gamer and when people play the game seriously, they want to win. I guess my suggestion is to just be a casual gamer and play the game for fun rather than to win. You'll probly be a bit worse as a casual player, but you'll have more fun. There's absolutely no difference between playing at 2000 ELO and 1500 ELO. There's no fame either way. The only advantage to being a pro gamer is being famous, and if you can't be one of the top players that always goes to every tournament, then there's no point being a pro gamer, just be a casual gamer and have fun.
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Poland1455 Posts
When I loose I smash the door.
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Losses suck for like 5 minutes but at the end of the day losing is always another step in the process to get better.
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On May 09 2010 10:16 Steamboatlol wrote:
Wow, I think people are really blowing this out of proportion. It's not like I'm getting crazy angry and smashing things and hurting people. Maybe it's more of an intense frustration than anger. Anyways I just started playing random just to make myself lose...a lot. It's amazing how helpless I am outside of the timing's of toss (no I do not just play one build). It really gives me mad respect for people like TLO who can play random at a top level.
I have tried playing random as well. I am the worst terran on earth.
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I have always been weird, when I rage I don't get mad at my opponent by thinking that they only won because they did some terrible build, I get mad at myself. I don't go around breaking thing's, I just make sure to learn from my mistakes and just use it to play better next time.
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