EPTAnyways my question is how do you guys keep from raging after losses (note: I'm not bad mannered to other players just sort of hard on myself)? I mean I try to take a lesson away from each loss but I just get so damn mad and it's stressful.
Anger after losses
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Steamboatlol
United States161 Posts
Anyways my question is how do you guys keep from raging after losses (note: I'm not bad mannered to other players just sort of hard on myself)? I mean I try to take a lesson away from each loss but I just get so damn mad and it's stressful. | ||
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Latham
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DennizR
Sweden653 Posts
Day9 has some tips for you  | ||
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Tidesson
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LordofToast
United Kingdom250 Posts
The over all aim of the match maker is to make everyone have a 1:1 ratio. Don't get too down on your win loss ratio. It means nothing. What matters only is your current skill level not your past games against weaker opponents. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
On May 08 2010 19:15 Steamboatlol wrote: Now I've played FPS games for quite some time but I've always taken losses in stride there and kept on playing. Suprising for me to hear that if you get angry over RTS, if i personally are getting angry(more or less never have) its always in either a intense FPS game or some DotA-like team work game. I can't get angry in and RTS because im all on my own, unlike the team play not really sure what to suggest | ||
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Snaiil
Sweden312 Posts
I've found that just watching the replay and seeing that you lost because you made errors and not because your opponent cheesed or used cheap units calms you down a lot. The most important thing is to not just exit the game and immediately start a new ladder game. You will only preform worse and get even more angry then. | ||
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dustdust
Germany76 Posts
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Skygrinder
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CheAse
Canada919 Posts
I've always been the most calm between my friends when it comes to losing. I think it has a great deal to do with how you take pride in your skill at the game. You can't go into the game thinking that you are a better player then the other person, or be too concerned about winning. I think you need to go into each game with a focus on learning certain builds and strategies, then losing will not feel as such a loss. If after you lose you are too mad and start to reach for those cheasy fast wins, I suggest taking a break until you are ready to play standard again. | ||
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
On May 08 2010 19:26 Tidesson wrote: The rage comes when you fail to realize the reason why you lost. Believe it or not, theres always a reason. You can't expect to always win and losing is a core part of the game, when it happens the best thing you can do is go watch the replay and see why you lost. At that point is when you are really learning the game, as winning games will not teach you anything. When you learn how to make your losses constructive then you will start moving forward. Sometimes when you play for too long you will build up a lot of stress, its the nature of starcraft, as your senses will get saturated. When that happens just go take a break. That might be true for some, not for me. When I know why I lost I get really angry at myself for not doing it right. If I don't have a clue I feel like the opponent was way better and no matter what I would have done wouldn't help me win. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
I basically can't play matchmaking online because i just feel so terribly stressed out, I hate to lose, and even after I win I'm more like: "Whew, I'm glad thats over...". The whole idea of playing with some faceless person over the internet is just too much for my competitive instinct. What I have found is that the only way I can really enjoy SC is playing with friends and people I know, it just seems a lot friendlier and I can talk about the game with them afterward and trade tips and such. | ||
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ROOTdrewbie
Canada1392 Posts
On May 08 2010 19:35 sob3k wrote: Its easy to say all this stuff, but honestly I have never gotten over the bad feelings of losing at SC. I play a ton of FPS (I'm alot better at them than SC), and never had any problems stressing about games, but playing online for BW and SC2 is a different story. I basically can't play matchmaking online because i just feel so terribly stressed out, I hate to lose, and even after I win I'm more like: "Whew, I'm glad thats over...". The whole idea of playing with some faceless person over the internet is just too much for my competitive instinct. What I have found is that the only way I can really enjoy SC is playing with friends and people I know, it just seems a lot friendlier and I can talk about the game with them afterward and trade tips and such. once the game gets released, there will be tons and tons of UMS games and chat channels ( hopefully :S:S:S:S ) and 1000x more things to do, right now the only thing to do really in sc2 is ladder, which i agree can be a bit stressful, especially since it seems like everyone only cheeses | ||
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
On May 08 2010 19:15 Steamboatlol wrote: Anyways my question is how do you guys keep from raging after losses I usually just move on, or watch the replay, but i can't help but rage when im losing the 10th PvP because of colossus turtling. | ||
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nedsat
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This thinking at least let me care little about losing. | ||
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Snaiil
Sweden312 Posts
On May 08 2010 19:35 sob3k wrote: Its easy to say all this stuff, but honestly I have never gotten over the bad feelings of losing at SC. I play a ton of FPS (I'm alot better at them than SC), and never had any problems stressing about games, but playing online for BW and SC2 is a different story. I basically can't play matchmaking online because i just feel so terribly stressed out, I hate to lose, and even after I win I'm more like: "Whew, I'm glad thats over...". The whole idea of playing with some faceless person over the internet is just too much for my competitive instinct. What I have found is that the only way I can really enjoy SC is playing with friends and people I know, it just seems a lot friendlier and I can talk about the game with them afterward and trade tips and such. I used to be like you, feeling stressed out and nervous when playing. The turning point was when I started telling myself I was better than the opponent I was about to face every match. It made losing a bit frustrating, but the desire to improve even stronger. If I think I'm better than my opponent, I will be a lot calmer when playing. It's kind of a placebo effect, I think I'm better than my opponent and therefore I push myself to be better. | ||
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SarcasticOne
Australia213 Posts
any other time, it's "what can i do to NOT lose to this again? what did i scout? so i know what to expect next time i scout it..." | ||
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SVN-ShaS
Australia258 Posts
And you just cant improve when u keeping raping noob .... | ||
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ghosthunter
United States414 Posts
As a note, it's mainly if I get crushed by something tedious. Like MMM balls. God I hate MMM balls... I find very few of my games that I lose to actually be close in skill, which is entertaining/ | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
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Snowfield
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Steamboatlol
United States161 Posts
(ex. in PVZ I scout that I can easily mow him down when I have like 3 immortals + a decent ground force and he has roaches and a few speedlings, after I push out the speed lings zip by me I take out as many as I can but they proceed to rape my mineral line and I end up losing) | ||
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Tiwo
Netherlands306 Posts
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
even when I play my worst race. | ||
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MarGeta
Sweden18 Posts
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Diks
Belgium1880 Posts
If the loss came from poor mechanics from me, then i have to take a break. Like in poker, don't play when you are on TILT | ||
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Germany2959 Posts
On May 08 2010 20:46 MarGeta wrote: I don't rage as much playing sc now days I usually just get really gloomy, I rage superhard while playing fighting games tho. I raged hard trying to beat Seth in SF IV ;O | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
if u manage to change it u will never be angry after a loss again, other feelings will come but anger is not 1 of them. and if u manage to do this ur improvement will skyrocket, trust me on that one ) there r always great temporary solutions like take a few deep breaths or take a break but inside u will be angry even if u dont punch things. eventually the more u lose u will slowly learn that its something u must lose to keep playing, else its not healthy to play at all imo | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On May 08 2010 19:15 Steamboatlol wrote:Anyways my question is how do you guys keep from raging after losses (note: I'm not bad mannered to other players just sort of hard on myself)? I mean I try to take a lesson away from each loss but I just get so damn mad and it's stressful. Even if I had a really dumb loss, even if I feel the other one just won because he was lucky I type GG before I leave the game.It's a kind of mental attitude to be mannered no matter what. It's fun to have some emotion in it: If I win a tight game, I really scream "Yesss! YES!!!" If I loose a game which I should have won, typing "GG" calms me somewhat down already. | ||
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SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
But remember this. It's a natural feeling, when you've lost and feel dissapointed in yourself for not performing at your peak then it's simply the way it is. Now is the time to do something constructive of it, try to learn from your mistakes if you want to improve. It's a simple thought but the function behind it all. If you didn't play as good as you can. - What made you play bad? Are you tired? Is there something on your mind? Was your opponent simply better than you? (if so then there's nothing you could have done, and nothing to be mad at) There's always a logic in what we can do and can not. Why should I be angry with myself for failing to climb mount everest if I'm struggling with a small hill? Implement this thinking after a loss, it'll hopefully ease your rage if it's uncalled for and perhaps you can just laugh at it . Enjoy your victories, learn from your losses. Allow yourself to be human and feel what you feel. but don't take it out on others who don't deserve it or yourself as a person. | ||
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RRated
United States18 Posts
Oh, does anyone else think the matching system often tells you your opponent is slightly favored even when he isn't? Sort of like a placebo to make you think you're doing better than you are. I got to 5th in my platinum league and I can't ever recall seeing myself even slightly favored. | ||
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ghosthunter
United States414 Posts
Now, if I ever actually competed in a tournament or something, I'd opt to not be a doucehbag. But currently just laddering up and down, I think we all can understand each others feelings and that it's nothing personal. | ||
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Demand2k
Norway875 Posts
On May 08 2010 19:29 SmoKim wrote: Suprising for me to hear that if you get angry over RTS, if i personally are getting angry(more or less never have) its always in either a intense FPS game or some DotA-like team work game. I can't get angry in and RTS because im all on my own, unlike the team play not really sure what to suggest I really don't believe this, unless there's a condition causing it. | ||
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
On May 08 2010 20:01 SVN-ShaS wrote: When you lose, just keep thinking "The more i lose, the more I improve" And you just cant improve when u keeping raping noob .... But what happens when you keep losing to noob?  | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
On May 08 2010 19:26 Tidesson wrote: The rage comes when you fail to realize the reason why you lost. Believe it or not, theres always a reason. You can't expect to always win and losing is a core part of the game, when it happens the best thing you can do is go watch the replay and see why you lost. At that point is when you are really learning the game, as winning games will not teach you anything. When you learn how to make your losses constructive then you will start moving forward. Sometimes when you play for too long you will build up a lot of stress, its the nature of starcraft, as your senses will get saturated. When that happens just go take a break. I am also angry when I know the reason why I lost.  | ||
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bubusls
Romania61 Posts
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-Iron-
Germany27 Posts
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Knap4life
Slovenia333 Posts
But if i dare to do a ladder match i feel so intense feeling like i am playing against a god of rts and i start to become paranoid so much about what hes going to do when i am not scouting. i have no clue how to really remove my fear in ladder matches ;s . | ||
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bubusls
Romania61 Posts
On May 08 2010 22:15 Knap4life wrote: Looking at this post and i know that i dont have the problem with my rage control. My problem is that i dont even dare to play ladder matches because i am to scared , to be honest i dont really know why maybe its because you play against an unknown player and since people are known to fear the unknown i think its understandable. But if i dare to do a ladder match i feel so intense feeling like i am playing against a god of rts and i start to become paranoid so much about what hes going to do when i am not scouting. i have no clue how to really remove my fear in ladder matches ;s . Yeah, like I said, same here. Plus, with all the frequent ladder resets, it discourages me to even try to climb the ladder at all. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
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ymirheim
Sweden300 Posts
On May 08 2010 22:15 Knap4life wrote: Looking at this post and i know that i dont have the problem with my rage control. My problem is that i dont even dare to play ladder matches because i am to scared , to be honest i dont really know why maybe its because you play against an unknown player and since people are known to fear the unknown i think its understandable. But if i dare to do a ladder match i feel so intense feeling like i am playing against a god of rts and i start to become paranoid so much about what hes going to do when i am not scouting. i have no clue how to really remove my fear in ladder matches ;s . Oh my friends are just like this too which is a real problem for me They don't want to play starcraft, warcraft 3 or starcraft 2 against other people at all, not on the internet and not on lan because they don't want to loose. They just want to play against the computer. The solution is actually simple I just cannot convince them to give it a shot. The solution is as in so many other situations to play a lot. You still get mad from loosing certain games ofcourse no matter how good you are, I think thats healthy. But the more games you play the less you start to "care" about loosing. Its just something natural that happens and you can focus on calmly figuring out why. | ||
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Back
Canada505 Posts
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hoovehand
United Kingdom542 Posts
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Champi
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Papillon
Germany131 Posts
this even can happen when you thought you had the game or you might be on par but your opponent had the better playstyle however mostly skill decides so you shouldnt be too angry when loosing | ||
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lowlypawn
United States241 Posts
Two months later I re-bought WC3 again and have since learned to not get that angry. Don’t get me wrong, I still get annoyed right after a loss but now that only lasts for maybe 15 seconds tops. I get up grab a glass of water and by the time I get back to the computer I’ve already completely forgotten about the loss. The funny thing is the wins are never satisfying enough, I can win 3 in a row and I still want more. But one loss wipes out all my wins for the day. I think that’s just the way the human brain is wired, we remember the bad much better then the good. The last advice that helps is always type “GG” and then F10-S. Even if you are steaming mad because you fell for some lame cheese strategy, the fact you were able to maintain game etiquette will make you immediately feel better. | ||
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lowlypawn
United States241 Posts
On May 08 2010 22:24 Back wrote: Have you tried losing on purpose? This is the beta after all. Technically your ranking doesn't really matter. Next time you're playing a game where you are sure to win, try your hardest to lose. Might put everything in perspective. I just wanted to quote this because this is really good advice. | ||
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stroggos
New Zealand1543 Posts
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Zeht
United States1 Post
On May 08 2010 22:15 Knap4life wrote: Looking at this post and i know that i dont have the problem with my rage control. My problem is that i dont even dare to play ladder matches because i am to scared , to be honest i dont really know why maybe its because you play against an unknown player and since people are known to fear the unknown i think its understandable. But if i dare to do a ladder match i feel so intense feeling like i am playing against a god of rts and i start to become paranoid so much about what hes going to do when i am not scouting. i have no clue how to really remove my fear in ladder matches ;s . i have sort of the same issue. I'm a really calm person but pretty competitive. I hardly ever rage. I have some really bad anxiety problems irl and it seems to transfer over to some games. just thinking about laddering i will get physically nauseous and stressed out. Getting nauseous at the start of every game is just not a good feeling.. once im settled into the game its not so bad, but it picks right back up at or near the end of a match. Sc2 Ladder, havent even played my placement matches, I play with friends and its not as bad WoW Pug Raids and Arena. Raids with my guild i have no problems. BG's and LFD are also no problem. But Pug raids and doing arena give me so much anxiety i just avoid them altogether much like sc2 ladder. and before LFD i would avoid pug heriocs. FPS I can play with no problems... but this is also the genre im best at so i have a lot of faith in my abilities I know some of this maybe silly to others. it's even silly to me. so im on a mission to find out how to conquer my sc2 anxiety! and use that experience to help overcome other anxiety related issues. we'll see.. | ||
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Zhou
United States832 Posts
There are plenty of other things that you can do to release the energy than be angry. :x I try to watch something; anything that makes me forget about it for a while. Then talk to my friends about how silly that cheese was or something. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On May 08 2010 21:40 Demand2k wrote: I really don't believe this, unless there's a condition causing it. ??? Of course there's a condition causing it. It's easier to get mad when you have someone to blame for your loss, ESPECIALLY in public games without friends. | ||
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cartoon]x
United States606 Posts
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Steamboatlol
United States161 Posts
On May 08 2010 23:09 Pokebunny wrote: ??? Of course there's a condition causing it. It's easier to get mad when you have someone to blame for your loss, ESPECIALLY in public games without friends. I disagree, I think the reason I take SC losses harder is first of all, it's longer. At any time in an FPS either me or my opponent can just pop eachother in the head. SC games can be quite long and when you're losing you just have to watch all your units explode while you're going nonono. In an FPS sometime's you'll die and just be like hmm nice shot or the guy gets a lucky spray/spam. in SC your loss directly stems from a series or maybe just one choice that you made that was just flat out wrong. Its just more mentally draining. | ||
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MercerX
United States32 Posts
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Sensator
Australia377 Posts
I'm pretty crap but it's those sort of things that piss me off the most. If Zerg doesn't get buffed soon I think I might switch races, it's bad for my health the amount of anger I gain from losing to ludicrous shit. | ||
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TwilightStar
United States649 Posts
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
On May 08 2010 22:15 Knap4life wrote: Looking at this post and i know that i dont have the problem with my rage control. My problem is that i dont even dare to play ladder matches because i am to scared , to be honest i dont really know why maybe its because you play against an unknown player and since people are known to fear the unknown i think its understandable. But if i dare to do a ladder match i feel so intense feeling like i am playing against a god of rts and i start to become paranoid so much about what hes going to do when i am not scouting. i have no clue how to really remove my fear in ladder matches ;s . i know what this feels like, and to get over it i recommend that for your first 3 ladder games, 5pool (or in sc2 it's 8pool) and just watch how human your opponents are as they scramble to react. you don't even have to win, just seeing them panic and have to micro really hard makes you realize it's just another newbie nerd sitting on the other end! and it sounds dumb but yeah ALWAYS saying gg at the end at least for me helps a lot when i'm annoyed at a loss. it gives you a sense of 'well that's over with', instead of the usual AIJSGOIAS DFHDSFASHFAHOIAJ | ||
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
On May 08 2010 19:15 Steamboatlol wrote: Anyways my question is how do you guys keep from raging after losses (note: I'm not bad mannered to other players just sort of hard on myself)? I mean I try to take a lesson away from each loss but I just get so damn mad and it's stressful. Be really careful with that. You dont wanna end up being like Idra. Im not kidding. | ||
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pyr0ma5ta
United States458 Posts
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
I am usually really competitive in all multiplayer Blizzard games, but when I stop getting mad at losing, that is usually when I stopped caring about that particular game. This usually happens after playing that particular game for over 2 years at least though! Except for D2 which I didn't bother with. | ||
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
Just gotta remind yourself that Lady Variance is a cold bitch and keep on improving. | ||
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Slurgi
United States118 Posts
I've seen a lot of usernames of people on this forum (and even in this thread) that I've raged really hard at. It's embarrassing and a complete reversal from my normal demeanor, but losing at an RTS game throws me down a swirl of uncontrollable rage that is unequaled by anything else. It's crazy. Um, sorry. Although I have a desperate need to follow my own advice, my advice is still that it's best to just remain calm, honestly sit back and analyze why you lost or how you could have won the game. Oh, and try your best not to make excuses like imbalance, like I do. | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
So, a little anger is ok, but if it is getting out of control or you are breaking things then maybe consider trying to get that under control. | ||
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Fumi
529 Posts
When the video ends, you can follow some good advices in this thread and/or analyze your replay calmly. | ||
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FranktheTank
United States12 Posts
If you schedule a break you can keep yourself calm and prepared. Do whatever you have to, usually I will get a glass of water, see what my roommates are up to, watch my replays, or read the TL forums. | ||
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Mentat
Canada74 Posts
lol you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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DragonDefonce
United States790 Posts
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Steamboatlol
United States161 Posts
On May 09 2010 00:53 Mentat wrote: Getting angry while playing video games lol you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. | ||
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ScienceRob
United States382 Posts
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Mentat
Canada74 Posts
On May 09 2010 01:08 Steamboatlol wrote: I may get angry at starcraft, but I don't get angry at trolls. I think trolls are qt's. I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. | ||
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Holden Caulfield
102 Posts
And one more thing: points don't really mean anything right now and won't mean anything until there is a overall/world ladder, so just try to learn as much as you can. | ||
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e4e5nf3
Canada599 Posts
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
For me it's about learning and getting better, not about W-L ratios. So I guess I see all my games as practice, and the opponent is my target dummy. I think the only time I'd generally rage is if I was in a tourney. At that point practice is over and that's the "real" game because there are real consequences for losing. Everything else though I see as refining your technique. Better to do that in ladders than when you go to tourney. | ||
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suejak
Japan545 Posts
There is disappointment. There is frustration. These are ok. Then there is anger. Anger is silly. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote: I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. Why is it worse to get angry from losing in a computergame than it is to get angry because you lose in a sportsgame? Getting angry when not performing sufficient is what drives a winner (unless it is getting angry with the other "cheating" or some stupid stuff like that), not caring because "lolit'sjustagame" will pretty much ensure that you won't develop at all (or at least at a MUCH MUCH slower rate). Ask any top-athlete, he/she will tell you that they are bad losers. | ||
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Sadist
United States7228 Posts
On May 09 2010 01:43 suejak wrote: LOL, you don't get angry because you care; you get angry because you can't handle your emotions. There is disappointment. There is frustration. These are ok. Then there is anger. Anger is silly. not if getting angry is a good motivator =) | ||
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Kojaimea
United Kingdom277 Posts
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
one small fuck up and everything could be gone. while in FPS, one fuck up.. and you might still have another 4 rounds to go. well i guess you could say that for RTS as well if its like a Bo5 but.. the games are so much longerrrrr and more energy draining IMO i broke my mouse once by slamming it on the table because it didnt move when i moved it. the ball was jammed or something so now i only use laser. i dont give a f about what pros use cuz i remember some of them only used ball mouse.. lol well good for them. but i just couldnt risk the ball jamming again under dirt or w/e. i dont have the desire to clean out a ball mouse often in order to play sc well. no thx. | ||
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apm66
Canada943 Posts
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ManiacTheZealot
United States490 Posts
Some people rage at the person they're playing against. This is because the computer dehumanizes the person they're playing against. If you have this problem make an attempt to humanize your opponent at the start of the game. Have a short conversation with them and wish them luck. If you start to care how they feel and identify with them you will be less likely to be mean to them. The reverse also works if you don't think you can identify with them you can choose to not talk at all so as not to communicate your negative feels to them. Most bad mannered people you meet IRL aren't bad mannered because when you're actually in front of them talking they see you as a person rather than text in a chat room. | ||
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Papvin
Denmark610 Posts
On May 09 2010 00 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 00 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:53 Mentat wrote: Getting angry while playing video games lol you have bigger problems than just being bad at the game. Just wanted to point out that you're a fucking retard, and I certainly hope you'll recieve a temp for this. Why the fuck shouldn't you be able to be mad playing a video game? Is is stupid being mad after a defeat in a soccer match where you felt you weren't playing your best? Just because you play the game once a day and don't care about it at all doesn't mean it can be something people have as a core hobby, or even playing competitively. Moron. | ||
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omninmo
2349 Posts
A nger multiplies upon itself and provides zero nourishment G ames such as SC2 require skill cultivation so losses become free lessons E veryone gets beat and rightly so... because they were out-played. Learn to out play your opponent. | ||
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Papvin
Denmark610 Posts
On May 09 2010 01 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 01 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:22 Mentat wrote: I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. Of course he thinks you're a troll. Noone able to actually write shoudn't be this stupid. | ||
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Dingo_egret
Brazil97 Posts
On May 08 2010 23:02 Zeht wrote: i have sort of the same issue. I'm a really calm person but pretty competitive. I hardly ever rage. I have some really bad anxiety problems irl and it seems to transfer over to some games. just thinking about laddering i will get physically nauseous and stressed out. Getting nauseous at the start of every game is just not a good feeling.. once im settled into the game its not so bad, but it picks right back up at or near the end of a match. Sc2 Ladder, havent even played my placement matches, I play with friends and its not as bad WoW Pug Raids and Arena. Raids with my guild i have no problems. BG's and LFD are also no problem. But Pug raids and doing arena give me so much anxiety i just avoid them altogether much like sc2 ladder. and before LFD i would avoid pug heriocs. FPS I can play with no problems... but this is also the genre im best at so i have a lot of faith in my abilities I know some of this maybe silly to others. it's even silly to me. so im on a mission to find out how to conquer my sc2 anxiety! and use that experience to help overcome other anxiety related issues. we'll see.. Long post below... I have a very similar problem... I do feel very nervous when playing ladder, but actually getting myself to play is the real hard part. I don't actually get nauseous but I make all kinds of excuses to myself like I'm too tired, I need to practice X matchup or X strategy first, I'm not feeling like it, etc., but in reality all that it is is that I'm too scared to play. Even though I recognize that and tell myself that it is incredibly silly to get so worried about some beta with stats that will get reset anyway and even if they didn't nobody would care, I still treat it waaaay too seriously. Sometimes I even feel like it's not about the stats, like Knap said, it's something about playing some complete stranger on the internet whose skills you have no idea of while trying to play as good as you possibly can to win... it feels pretty stressful for us I suppose. It's just something in my head. As for intrigue's tip... the idea is good but once I tried the 6 rax reaper build on the ladder (with proxy rax and everything on steppes of war, just like that game by... demuslim I think) and my opponent just killed it so easily... he had a chrono'd stalker on the way by the time I got there and my bad micro + his probe micro = I died soon after. I didn't feel crushed or anything, I recognize I micro'd badly but just saying sometimes the opponent might know how to react and then it might not work so well ><. Also like some people said, FPS games are pretty easy to deal with (at least for me). You die, oh well, you wait to respawn. Keep getting killed for whatever reason? If it's not an actual match, just leave the server and pick another one, it's not like you get a loss added to a permanent record for leaving. The fact that the game is continuous also relieves the tension somewhat as well... if some dude kills you, you can go and kill him as soon as you get back. If your team loses, who cares (again, if it's not a clan match)? I think that, in the end, it's the ladder aspect that may be a little crushing for some people (like me). It seems... overwhelming, I suppose, no matter how meaningless the ladder may be. For example, DotA I could play in pubs in Garena nonstop pretty much. After a while I stopped caring if someone was feeding, I almost never got really mad after a loss, and even when I did in 10 minutes of doing something else I was good to go. But HoN is a different story... due to the fact that you need to keep winning to maintain a decent rating (1700+) to play with the better players, and you could very quickly lose a lot of it if you lost a few games in a row, it got even more stressful than SC did, especially because soooo many things can go wrong in these kinds of games (Hon/dota I mean). In the end, I pretty much only played no stats games, because even though 90% of the players there were either pretty bad, leavers or something like that, at least I didn't feel the need to really win. If anyone has gotten over this, though, give us tips like intrigue did, we want to know =) | ||
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Fen
Australia1848 Posts
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m3rciless
United States1476 Posts
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mtvacuum
United States979 Posts
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The6357
United States1268 Posts
and almost always I come to conclusion.."it was just a game" and i'm happy | ||
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Wi)nD
Canada719 Posts
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
Just watch your own replays after the game. That way you know it was your own damn fault. | ||
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Mr.E
United States434 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On May 09 2010 01:22 Mentat wrote: I'm a troll now because I'm stating the obvious truth ? mkay, sure. You keep thinking that, lol. no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. | ||
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DrSmoke
United States175 Posts
-Edison Just because you lose a game (any game) or don't succeed at first is not a failure, or even a bad thing. This is a key tenant of science, you cannot find what works, without finding what does not. If you approach every match "afraid to lose" than your play will stagnate from fear of trying new things. This is not the way to do anything, let alone SC. | ||
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Setev
Malaysia390 Posts
On May 08 2010 20:15 ghosthunter wrote: I usually call the other person something mean before leaving, and then review my loss and keep playing. I still have yet to ever beat a marine marauder medivac timing push as zerg, but practice practice practice! As a note, it's mainly if I get crushed by something tedious. Like MMM balls. God I hate MMM balls... I find very few of my games that I lose to actually be close in skill, which is entertaining/ Well, then you have to stop saying mean things to people when you lose to them because they might not appreciate it, plus it shows you are not gracious. But then again, like Idra, we do need people like that to spice up the SC competitive gaming scene. XDXD | ||
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yomi
United States773 Posts
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Kratisto
United States199 Posts
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Red7z7
United States74 Posts
I think a lot of the rage stems from the emotional attachment to each game. In RTS, if you have the wrong mindset during a game then you'll basically be building up tension for 15 minutes. If you end up losing the game quickly at the end it's like a shock to your system and that tension will become anger. I used to find myself extremely tense after playing, especially if the game was close or if I was losing. Even if I won, I would be trembling and my heart rate would be really high. This made it hard to play continuously throughought the day because it simply would be taxing my health to be on edge for that many hours. If I played before I went to bed then I would get nightmares just because my heartrate was too high before I slept. Some things I've found to help reduce tension: -Never expect to win a game. Expecting to win is pretty silly in the first place, since there is no way you can win every game, but it also is the primary source for anger when you lose a game. When the game starts I always remind myself that I'm playing to play my best, not playing to get a win. If you start losing games it becomes really tempting to try to play just for a win, but you have to resist that. -Make it a goal to reach some number of losses. I don't mean try to lose. you should still try to play your best, but make a tally of your losses and see if you can reach some limit. Losses are your most valuable tool, and if you can appreciate them then you probably won't get as angry. Your number of losses is a great indicator of how much experience you have. -Make the game a more social experience. This means play with a friend nearby, or be on ventrilo so you can vent the tension by talking during each game. Or play against a friend. That's the best. It really puts the "seriousness" of the game in perspective. -Only play for appropriate blocks of time. For me, its like an hour and a half. I play like 4 games and then take a break for at least an hour doing something else. This way you don't get too attached to the game. -Play some music in the background. This works wonders for keeping you calm during the game. -Have a mental plan for every scenario. The times I find my adrenaline rushing are when something I don't expect happens, like an all-in rush, a drop, or suddenly losing a battle I thought I could win. If you expect these things to happen before they do, its tremendously easier to stay calm. -Scout actively. This is entirely related the previous point. You will feel so much more comfortable if you know what the opponent is up to. Even if you see you're losing, then at least you will be able to accept that fact ahead of time rather than getting overwhelmed all at once later on, which will probably make your heartrate skyrocket and make you rage. Hope this helps :D | ||
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Mentat
Canada74 Posts
On May 09 2010 03:31 arb wrote: no youre a fucking retarded troll, everyone gets mad at losing not just at starcraft in general. find me someone who says "oh look i lost a game im so happy!!" without it being yourself for the sake of finding someone, because ill give youa hint you wont. getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. | ||
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Twinweapon
United States90 Posts
In an fps a large majority of the time it played as a group and if one player does a great job and his team loses. He can just say hell I did well and its not my fault that my team lost, but it was the rest of the teams' fault for not doing well. That is the difference between FPs and RTS is the pressure on yourself and knowing that no matter what no one else can help you, your on your own and its all on you. RTS are for clutch players in an FPs, the players that can win a 1vs6 with a minute left before game ends and defuse the bomb or protect it. There is no other thing like it. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote: getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. such a cute troll kek kek | ||
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Setev
Malaysia390 Posts
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Steamboatlol
United States161 Posts
On May 09 2010 03:34 DrSmoke wrote: I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. -Edison Just because you lose a game (any game) or don't succeed at first is not a failure, or even a bad thing. This is a key tenant of science, you cannot find what works, without finding what does not. If you approach every match "afraid to lose" than your play will stagnate from fear of trying new things. This is not the way to do anything, let alone SC. Funny because I actually work in science and this is the attitude I bring to science. It's wierd how I can spend 5 hours in a windowless room only to see the thing I've been working on fail at the absolute moment of truth and just shrug it off. But when I lose in starcraft it feels like I'm being slowly strangled. | ||
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Mnijykmirl
United States299 Posts
Being polite helps me get over my loss, keep perspective on the game, and preps me to tackle the reason why I lost. Keeping myself humble. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7888 Posts
I remember that in my first month on BW, I was shacking in every duel. Starcraft is fun, but it's not your life. There are worse things than sucking at a video game. I mean, I hope for you unless you are a pro-gamer. | ||
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
On May 09 2010 04:45 Mentat wrote: getting mad over forum posts is a new low just when I thought getting mad at video games was bad, lol. banhammer of total annihilation please... | ||
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pieisamazing
United States1234 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7888 Posts
I don't think he should be banned. It's hard to admit but in a way he is right, raging at a video game or even in a forum discussion is childish and a bit ridiculous, even if it's human and it happened to all of us. | ||
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Papvin
Denmark610 Posts
On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:21 Biff The Understudy wrote: I don't think he should be banned. It's hard to admit but in a way he is right, raging at a video game or even in a forum discussion is childish and a bit ridiculous, even if it's human and it happened to all of us. Unless you think raging over anything is ridiculous (which can be true in theory), I think you are quite wrong. If you care for something like starcraft and want to be good at it, it's so natural to rage when things doesn't go your way. I'm not saying you should just embrace the rage and crash your keyboard and monitor every time you get cheesed, but I'm saying that you thinking people are silly raging "just cause it's a videogame", you should be agree that it's silly to rage at any interest you have. Which I don't think you'd agree on. | ||
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Mentat
Canada74 Posts
On May 09 2010 06:41 Papvin wrote: Unless you think raging over anything is ridiculous (which can be true in theory), I think you are quite wrong. If you care for something like starcraft and want to be good at it, it's so natural to rage when things doesn't go your way. I'm not saying you should just embrace the rage and crash your keyboard and monitor every time you get cheesed, but I'm saying that you thinking people are silly raging "just cause it's a videogame", you should be agree that it's silly to rage at any interest you have. Which I don't think you'd agree on. there's nothing natural about getting angry and "raging" over something you play to have fun. What we have there is life without moderation. The problem arises when one takes games so seriously that it affects their emotional health. once again, people who get angry over video games have issues greater than their inability to play the game, which is only a symptom of their anger. argue against this, use unsolicited references to try and justify your position. Either way you're failing to acknowledge that you have a problem. | ||
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Fumi
529 Posts
On May 09 2010 06:47 Mentat wrote: there's nothing natural about getting angry and "raging" over something you play to have fun. What we have there is life without moderation. The problem arises when one takes games so seriously that it affects their emotional health. once again, people who get angry over video games have issues greater than their inability to play the game, which is only a symptom of their anger. argue against this, use unsolicited references to try and justify your position. Either way you're failing to acknowledge that you have a problem. You don't seem to understand people aren't like you. You fail to see some people here are in not only for the fun, but also for the competition. People don't get angry at the videogame, they get angry because of the competition. I don't get angry myself because I'm bad at the game, and I don't have any interest in playing the game seriously, so it's only natural that I don't care as much about my losses. It's not a problem, it's different reasons to play the game. You shouldn't take your own feelings and opinions as the standard. | ||
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Mentat
Canada74 Posts
On May 09 2010 07:09 Fumi wrote: You don't seem to understand people aren't like you. You fail to see some people here are in not only for the fun, but also for the competition. People don't get angry at the videogame, they get angry because of the competition. I don't get angry myself because I'm bad at the game, and I don't have any interest in playing the game seriously, so it's only natural that I don't care as much about my losses. It's not a problem, it's different reasons to play the game. You shouldn't take your own feelings and opinions as the standard. by your logic it's equally as appropriate to become enraged when watching starcraft replays and tournament streams. Sorry but no. | ||
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BADSMCGEE
United States94 Posts
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Sephy90
United States1785 Posts
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Chronopolis
Canada1484 Posts
lol that therapy can cure ANYONE! | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On May 09 2010 06:47 Mentat wrote: there's nothing natural about getting angry and "raging" over something you play to have fun. What we have there is life without moderation. The problem arises when one takes games so seriously that it affects their emotional health. once again, people who get angry over video games have issues greater than their inability to play the game, which is only a symptom of their anger. argue against this, use unsolicited references to try and justify your position. Either way you're failing to acknowledge that you have a problem. While you do have a problem when rageing, it isn't due to what you describe. Would you say that the elite athletes who cry after having lost a match are also having a mental problem? Or those who slam a wall in the locker room? Sure some bottle it up, but EVERYONE get these feelings where they just have to get away and can't handle taking question/talking about their sport. If they didn't act like that they wouldn't be elite athletes because they wouldn't be competetive enough, BUT equally, if they didn't move on, they wouldn't improve either. My point? It is fine to feel angry, heck it is natural if you are in any way competetive (not the swarmlike rage known from WoW), but you should also learn yourself to let it go so that it doesn't interfere with your game. But how do you do that? A) Saying "it's just a game" might work for some, personally it doesn't, not when I play SC, not when I play badminton. B) Realise that if you want to play up to your max, you have to calm yourself as you play better that way C) Take it out on an absurd imaginary thing. My badmintoncoach taught me, before I participated in my first major tournament that the best way to psych an opponent is to stay calm no matter what happens. Then you can take it out afterwards by biting the lockerroom door. And this is where the imaginary thing comes in. The thought of a door with bitemarks all over always seemed so hilarious to me that I simply couldn't get/stay angry. So to sum up, don't get angry at yourself for getting angry - it's natural if you are a die-hard competitor, instead accept it, channel it (sounds idiotic I know, but it can actually be used to get more in "the zone" during a game (i.e. I get pissed when I see 6-rax reaper, so I promise myself that he won't kill more than 2 of my workers) and then move on when. This is obviously all speaking from my own experience, and obviously I use a mix of the 3, A mostly for when I'm nervous and in the sense "I'll just play like it was a training match", B and C for actually "bad loser" issues. I can't guarentee that it'll work for everyone, but having talked with some of our national badmintonplayers it seems like the "happy-place" (C) is pretty common. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7888 Posts
On May 09 2010 06:41 Papvin wrote: Unless you think raging over anything is ridiculous (which can be true in theory), I think you are quite wrong. If you care for something like starcraft and want to be good at it, it's so natural to rage when things doesn't go your way. I'm not saying you should just embrace the rage and crash your keyboard and monitor every time you get cheesed, but I'm saying that you thinking people are silly raging "just cause it's a videogame", you should be agree that it's silly to rage at any interest you have. Which I don't think you'd agree on. Yes yes yes, obviously, it's ridiculous to rage on anything. Point is, I think people rage at Starcraft because it is an ego issue to them. If they lose or win means something. That's what I find a little silly. Even if you really like Starcraft and spend a lot of time playing, it is such an unsignificant thing to win or lose a game compare to soooo many things in life. So raging because you girlfriend has slept with your best friend is somehow more understandable than breaking your keyboard because you couldn't do anything about that dt. Obviously all this doesn't apply to people who really play starcraft very competitively such as top foreigners and pro-gamers, who have more interest involved than their pride or their ego. | ||
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Papvin
Denmark610 Posts
On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:47 Mentat wrote: there's nothing natural about getting angry and "raging" over something you play to have fun. What we have there is life without moderation. The problem arises when one takes games so seriously that it affects their emotional health. once again, people who get angry over video games have issues greater than their inability to play the game, which is only a symptom of their anger. argue against this, use unsolicited references to try and justify your position. Either way you're failing to acknowledge that you have a problem. Once again, I think you're failing to see what I'm trying to say. Sorry for calling you a retard and all that, I was just angry at the simplistic way you flamed the op without any justifying argument. Here's my point: Your main point is (correct me if I'm wrong), "it's just a video game you play for fun, raging about that is not normal". Well, many people sees the game as more than "just fun", they actually try to get good at it, thinking through their errors, discussing with other people about strategies and stuff. I would have no problems looking at playing starcraft as to play a sport competitively, and again, I think that you would agree people being down after losing in a sport they care about, feel down, or even get mad. Getting mad is of course just chemicals, but nonetheless, it exists, it's a core part of being competitive in anything, so saying it's just stupid and childish is wrong, imo. Hope we can clear the air in this discussion a bit. | ||
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DrSmoke
United States175 Posts
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Papvin
Denmark610 Posts
On May 09 2010 08 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 09 2010 08 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:47 Biff The Understudy wrote: Yes yes yes, obviously, it's ridiculous to rage on anything. Point is, I think people rage at Starcraft because it is an ego issue to them. If they lose or win means something. That's what I find a little silly. Even if you really like Starcraft and spend a lot of time playing, it is such an unsignificant thing to win or lose a game compare to soooo many things in life. So raging because you girlfriend has slept with your best friend is somehow more understandable than breaking your keyboard because you couldn't do anything about that dt. Obviously all this doesn't apply to people who really play starcraft very competitively such as top foreigners and pro-gamers, who have more interest involved than their pride or their ego. Okay, I see your point. Identifying yourself with your gaming skills is obviously bad for your mental health, since there should be more important things going on in your life. But I don't agree that everyone who rages do it because of they feel their ego's hurt. Simply, I think that it's just chemical. You're playing intensely, trying your hardest to win, putting your entire focus in this one game you play against some random person on the ladder. The adrenaline is pumping, and suddenly you get killed. You rage now, not because you feel you're worth nothing because you're not as good as you thought at the game that defines your life, but because your pumped with adrenaline and can't control the chemicals, resulting in irregular things, such as raging. That's what I think most people are experiencing when raging in sc. After like 10-15 mins, the adrenaline (or whatever it is causing the feelings) are gone, and you realize it was indeed silly, but nonetheless, it's feelings you couldn't just ignore. You felt them, and the best you can do is not let it out on others. That's what I meant . | ||
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skYfiVe
United States382 Posts
On May 08 2010 19:15 Steamboatlol wrote: Hey, so I'm sort of new to competitive RTS' but I've been getting the hang of SC2 and am hanging out about 100 points above everyone in my silver league. my record isn't too bad but I'm finding that I am taking losses really hard. It's just like mentally and a little bit emotionally draining and I just feel like punching my monitor in. Now I've played FPS games for quite some time but I've always taken losses in stride there and kept on playing. Anyways my question is how do you guys keep from raging after losses (note: I'm not bad mannered to other players just sort of hard on myself)? I mean I try to take a lesson away from each loss but I just get so damn mad and it's stressful. I really think it is just a big part of the game, and improving. Starcraft obviously gets you on your competitive edge, and when you lose a couple games in a row it get really frustrating. Basically, just try not to take it so hard, and also maybe take a break after losing a few in a row if that ever happens. | ||
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Fumi
529 Posts
On May 09 2010 07:31 Mentat wrote: by your logic it's equally as appropriate to become enraged when watching starcraft replays and tournament streams. Sorry but no. I have no idea how you got to that conclusion. You're weird. | ||
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
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Steamboatlol
United States161 Posts
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Orpheus
United States35 Posts
On May 08 2010 19:15 Steamboatlol wrote: Hey, so I'm sort of new to competitive RTS' but I've been getting the hang of SC2 and am hanging out about 100 points above everyone in my silver league. my record isn't too bad but I'm finding that I am taking losses really hard. It's just like mentally and a little bit emotionally draining and I just feel like punching my monitor in. Now I've played FPS games for quite some time but I've always taken losses in stride there and kept on playing. Anyways my question is how do you guys keep from raging after losses (note: I'm not bad mannered to other players just sort of hard on myself)? I mean I try to take a lesson away from each loss but I just get so damn mad and it's stressful. Go out to the mall or club and hit on the HOTTEST girls. And hit on them. (Learn to fail and move on) | ||
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Tundravalco
United States51 Posts
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University
United States263 Posts
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
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YeOldeMagnetonne
United States2 Posts
I suppose the reason it gets to me is because I'm not a competitive gamer or person, but am forced to be one by this game. I've played games and sports my entire life and have been decently good at most of them without trying and just playing was entertainment enough, but I feel that I am not very good at the Starcraft II beta (or am playing far below the level that I think I should be at) and want to improve. It's really strange. I don't know how a damn game can invoke emotions in me like this, but I can give a tip to help deal with it: play some nice music in the background to calm you down. When I'm paying equal attention to the music and the game I not only play better, I feel better. I've been listening to aphex twin, prefuse 73, flying lotus, and other instrumental music with weird rhythms and time signatures... | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
by your logic it's equally as appropriate to become enraged when watching starcraft replays and tournament streams. Sorry but no. Are you being idiotic on purpose? Competition refers to competing, not watching other people compete. | ||
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United States2263 Posts
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GiantEnemyCrab
Canada503 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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SixSongs
Poland1455 Posts
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Drk_ItachiX
Japan113 Posts
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0mgVitaminE
United States1278 Posts
On May 09 2010 10:16 Steamboatlol wrote: Wow, I think people are really blowing this out of proportion. It's not like I'm getting crazy angry and smashing things and hurting people. Maybe it's more of an intense frustration than anger. Anyways I just started playing random just to make myself lose...a lot. It's amazing how helpless I am outside of the timing's of toss (no I do not just play one build). It really gives me mad respect for people like TLO who can play random at a top level. I have tried playing random as well. I am the worst terran on earth. | ||
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EGMachine
United States1643 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7888 Posts
On May 09 2010 08:58 Papvin wrote: Okay, I see your point. Identifying yourself with your gaming skills is obviously bad for your mental health, since there should be more important things going on in your life. But I don't agree that everyone who rages do it because of they feel their ego's hurt. Simply, I think that it's just chemical. You're playing intensely, trying your hardest to win, putting your entire focus in this one game you play against some random person on the ladder. The adrenaline is pumping, and suddenly you get killed. You rage now, not because you feel you're worth nothing because you're not as good as you thought at the game that defines your life, but because your pumped with adrenaline and can't control the chemicals, resulting in irregular things, such as raging. That's what I think most people are experiencing when raging in sc. After like 10-15 mins, the adrenaline (or whatever it is causing the feelings) are gone, and you realize it was indeed silly, but nonetheless, it's feelings you couldn't just ignore. You felt them, and the best you can do is not let it out on others. That's what I meant .Yes I understand. I think I am immune to rage with Starcraft cuz I suck way too much (never got better than C in two years and half) and care way too little even to get adrenaline while playing. I also have to say that I admire people who can control themselves and keep their mind clear in every situation (which is not alway my case). | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
On May 09 2010 18:59 Biff The Understudy wrote: Yes I understand. I think I am immune to rage with Starcraft cuz I suck way too much (never got better than C in two years and half) and care way too little even to get adrenaline while playing. I also have to say that I admire people who can control themselves and keep their mind clear in every situation (which is not alway my case). Obviously, it's important to differentiate what one means by "rage". I mean... smashing your head against the window after a lose is probably a little bit atypical I'd think. But beeing angry / a little mad after you lost a game is something very natural I'm sure. In fact, I'm pretty sure that if you spend a LOT of time playing and simply training Starcraft 2, you should be very worried if do NOT feel any kind of emotional response after a lost game whatsoever. | ||
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DetriusXii
Canada156 Posts
Here's another thought. Maybe you've reached your peak and it's time to take up something else as a hobby? | ||
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uiCk
Canada1925 Posts
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QueueQueue
Canada1000 Posts
On May 10 2010 06:36 uiCk wrote: i play a few custom LT games after some frustrating loses. helps me cheer up. Always a strong self esteem boost. Has anyone here ever lost a random opponent custom game? I know I sure haven't. The play is god awful 95% of the time. | ||
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JitnikoVi
Russian Federation396 Posts
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Mutaahh
Netherlands859 Posts
On May 09 2010 14:21 Drk_ItachiX wrote: Losses suck for like 5 minutes but at the end of the day losing is always another step in the process to get better. qft LEARN from your mistakes. and be the best in the end. However the problem with Starcraft is, there are so many mistakes to make. It's very difficult to master the game. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
Like the new goddamn hellion range. I don't care if it's balanced or not, I think it's dumb to have a SINGLE unit find your 15 transferring drone and kill all of them in seconds which costs you the game. | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
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MeruFM
United States167 Posts
On May 10 2010 08:57 FabledIntegral wrote: I only rage when I feel like I lost to something that's stupid in design. Like the new goddamn hellion range. I don't care if it's balanced or not, I think it's dumb to have a SINGLE unit find your 15 transferring drone and kill all of them in seconds which costs you the game. Blizzard specifically said that the range has not been increased. The aoe range is actually the same, auto-attacking with the hellion just makes it shoot when it's at the tip of it's range. Not really a buff or nerf except to a-move. But who a-move harass units anyways. | ||
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Orzabal
France287 Posts
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MrStorkie
United Kingdom697 Posts
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ymirheim
Sweden300 Posts
On May 09 2010 12:22 GiantEnemyCrab wrote: u should never get angry over video games since video games dont get you anywhere, whether u win or lose, if u didnt have fun, well the game did more bad then good. This is nonsense, there is no such thing in life as a hobby or project that will always make you happy and sneeze rainbows and dancing hobbits. Ofcourse one should always manage their anger if you get angry, but you should not give up a game just because you are not always happy after every game. If you get upset by loosing then it just shows that you care and if you don't get angry you may care just as much but just not be as emotional. But to quit everything that has the potential to make you mad when things are not going well? Man we would still be living in caves if everyone had that attitude. | ||
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tenpromicro
United States119 Posts
On May 08 2010 19:26 Tidesson wrote: The rage comes when you fail to realize the reason why you lost. Believe it or not, theres always a reason. You can't expect to always win and losing is a core part of the game, when it happens the best thing you can do is go watch the replay and see why you lost. At that point is when you are really learning the game, as winning games will not teach you anything. When you learn how to make your losses constructive then you will start moving forward. Sometimes when you play for too long you will build up a lot of stress, its the nature of starcraft, as your senses will get saturated. When that happens just go take a break. Worst case of rage for me comes when I know what I did wrong and I know there's no way for me to fix it besides just flat out getting better. There's nothing worse than realizing that your skill level had plateau'ed and no matter how much you are playing, practicing, watching replays, and attempting to improve your play, you are going to be inferior to the top percentage of players out there. It's what made me quit war3 after playing at a high amateur level, it's what is going to make me quit sc2 once I get to that point. | ||
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Three
Japan278 Posts
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TecNoPhi
United States25 Posts
I guess I also still believe that the person that I'm playing against is a decent person. Two fellow human beings playing a game to be entertained. But... you know, I enjoy winning a lot more than losing. Sorry anonymous player, GG. But congrats if you pull out a win. | ||
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deo1
United States199 Posts
But in general I get very angry when I lose, I usually have to just stop playing for a little while and take my mind to a different place, a place where starcraft doesn't matter at all. Usually the real world. | ||
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s0ldierofortune
United States23 Posts
It's easier to take a loss in tf2, because it is unranked, and even when I do lose, most I can blame it on my team . In starcraft losses are tough, because I am always putting my all into the game to try to increase my rank. THere is much more pressure, even though it is only beta. Also when I lose, it is my fault completely. Somewhere in the game, I made a bad move, or didn't scout right or something along those lines. Also, when I lose 1 game, I generally go on a losing streak after because I am discouraged. I find the best thing to do when you are losing and getting pissed is quit and play a less competitive game like tf2 or take a short break. | ||
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ryanAnger
United States838 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
But now that I more or less know my way around (1400+ silver ladder, yes, still not awesome) and realize that I lose because I made some stupid mistake I really give myself a hard time and tend to hit things around me  | ||
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Yeld
Austria106 Posts
Guess I am not the only one... :D I just lost 5 ladder games in a row, so I know all about what the OP is describing. Maybe I can still take pride in holding some kind of record in this regard... -_- | ||
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inTheMood
Norway128 Posts
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Kare
Norway786 Posts
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bjornkavist
Canada1235 Posts
So I raged super hard, punched my wall, but eventually cooled down. And then I switched to Terran after 3 days of hard pressed thinking, about leaving my beloved brotoss of which I've been playing for 10 years, since I was 6 years old. So now I play Terran and everythings better, and Im on an 8 game winning streak. Moral of the story, Play Terran in SC2 they are easy mode. | ||
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Piste
6177 Posts
just a quick question(sorry if this is off topic) What is counted as "competetive gaming"? Is it when you take gaming seriously? OR Is it when you play on high level? Or play on high level seriously? What about when you play on high level but not seriously? Or is it up to player him/herself to decide if he is a casual or a competetive player? | ||
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