EPTKorean Zerg - What's the difference - Page 3
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wbz0rn
Germany29 Posts
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Ruthless
United States492 Posts
On May 03 2010 15:52 aliciakeys wrote: this is a replay that was just posted today of a korean zerg http://www.sc2win.com/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=1380 doesn't go mutas at all. a lot of queens while droning up then mass hydras. honestly i do not think there is a clear difference in korean play styles this is not a good korean zerg i think. Pretty sure someone who doesnt even know about creep tumors spreading themselves is going to be someone to watch out for | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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ocho
United States172 Posts
On May 03 2010 23:38 wbz0rn wrote: i dont really have serious suggestion but.. thats what i think why they play different.. : Human Evolution they're like half zerg. and i guess the picture is kinda old too.. but still funnay.  PS: and pls spare me that racist crap.. its just a joke.  This is absolutely terrible, and I honestly can't believe anyone would posted this. Just because you say "its a joke lolz dont get all pissed" doesn't negate what this picture is insinuating. Not only is it completely offensive, it also breaks TL.net's #2 commandment. | ||
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pyr0ma5ta
United States458 Posts
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Konsume
Canada466 Posts
On May 03 2010 23:59 ocho wrote: This is absolutely terrible, and I honestly can't believe anyone would posted this. Just because you say "its a joke lolz dont get all pissed" doesn't negate what this picture is insinuating. Not only is it completely offensive, it also breaks TL.net's #2 commandment. I wish I could post a face palm ansi! Oh well... some players are just too proud to see the caricature! epeen +18 | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
On May 04 2010 00:01 pyr0ma5ta wrote: How do you know it's not micro/macro? because anyone can macro in sc2 and micro doesnt exist? xd on a serious note i just think, or actually is pretty sure of that asia is just better than us at eu. in eu zergs lose when they die in rushes but not so often in later game. ppl in asia probably know how to defend rushes better and i think the overall atmosphere over there is to learn the game rather than winning and getting achievements | ||
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epik151
312 Posts
On May 03 2010 23:56 Mohdoo wrote: I honestly just think they have bad Terrans and Protoss. Tell that to the random korean server toss that made Artosis rage quit last night. lulz. Great game. Come from behind ownage. Artosis so thought he won that and then was like... oh... god... an expo... oh god... collosi... oh god 10 phoenix... *leave game* | ||
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
On May 04 2010 00:16 MorroW wrote: ...the overall atmosphere over there is to learn the game rather than winning and getting achievements That I think hits the nail on the head. Also though, strategy-wise, I heard that korean zergs play a very aggressive early game, I think the canceled hatch --> creep tumor --> spine crawler push strategy that caused all those confusing (to us in the west) balance changes to queen speed and spine crawler attack rate were because of the success rate of those pushes on certain maps. | ||
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
This is just a complaint ranking of race on daily base (for fun I guess) and you can see how greatly percentage is changed recently. Red=Z Green=T Blue=P Purple=None And it is voting for the weakest race. http://www.playxp.com/sc2/jingjing/ | ||
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Mojawi)SoJu
Korea (South)259 Posts
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Deleted User 39582
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bountyface
United States95 Posts
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roemy
Germany432 Posts
however it also seems that they havent given as much thought about the other races yet. they got the force fields down alright. but i see quite a lack of +1 zealots against Z, for example (despite any forge-FEs) in general id say there's just more people investing more thought into zerg. but before i go down this slippery slope of racial/cultural profiling, i'll leave it at that  | ||
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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
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Gescom
Canada3511 Posts
way more drone heavy tendency to build more than 1 queen per hatch (part of the reason drone-heavy play is possible) more reliance on brood lords in late game better infestor use (west is catching up on this since patch 9) However -- I think the recent change to queens off of creep goes a long way in toning down some of the asia-heavy strats that were allowing zerg to win more often. I feel like a nerf to brood lords will be enough to balance asia out without affecting na/eu much. | ||
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dakine
United States121 Posts
i was playing zerg all weekend with my brother and we decided that your unit composition almost doesn't matter, just get upgrades and stay on top of macroing 3-4 mines and you can't lose. doesnt matter if its roach/hydra/ling or muta/ling or hydra/infestor/roach or anything. the composition does not matter so long as you can attach air, and have some ability to micro out of battles you cant win. zergs get so much minerals so fast when they are macroing mulitple bases, you need to stay up on your gas and your production and you will overwhelm the other guy regardless of units | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 03 2010 15:52 spinesheath wrote: So far there is no proof that Korean Zergs are better than other Zergs (not even mechanically). And judging from Artosis' stream and some replays I really doubt that they are significantly stronger. It could be that the Terrans and Protosses are worse, or the Zerg domination is just because of the different styles. Did you see the Tester games or what he said in the latest video? He won almost purely on early harassment, without even making it to the macro phase. To me, that indicates superior mechanics and multitasking more than strategy or anything else. | ||
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Mylin
Sweden177 Posts
The top 200 players in StarCraft 1 at the moment (and for quite some time) is probably Korean but there's really better explanations for that then genetics and blabla (the most feasible ones most likely relating to community development and collective learning, then you can probably also relate it to the development of closed economies in the pre-19th century aswell and so on). Someone really ought to make a paper on it ^^ EDIT: Basically I'm saying there's a reason for why particular groups (or nations) sometimes excel at certain things =) | ||
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WorkersOfTheWorld
United States619 Posts
On May 03 2010 17:41 kickinhead wrote: It's all about mechanics and macro. Why is Zerg better at this playstyle than the other races? - They are the strongest Macro-race, because they can pump drones so fast and switch to Massing Units if they have to. - They have the easiest time taking additional expansions and defending them, with queens, decent "Static"-defense that isn't even all that static and incresed speed on the creep.. - They are the best race at defending against cheese with Queens being able to shoot in the Air, being able to switch Unit-compositions faster than any other race, very good scouting options with Overlords and very fast Units which can be used to counterattack and/or defend very fast. - Also, their Units like Hydra are very versatile and extremely good at defending, especially with additional speed on the creep and they get their observer automatically at T2, without having to go a certain techroute which limits you in the Unit-composition you're able to play. This. Definitly this. | ||
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