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Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-04 00:03:59
May 04 2010 00:02 GMT
#121
Are there any stats whatsoever to back this up? has anyone even looked at the ladders and done some calculations to show that Z is dominant on the asian servers?
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
May 04 2010 00:06 GMT
#122
I don't have the exact stats, but it's very, very obvious that Zerg is dominant on the asian servers >.>

7 of the 10 top players are all Z, or something like that, as well as their higher win rate (I don't know the exact numbers, but it is significantly higher than the other races, for sure)
einohr
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany45 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-04 00:09:56
May 04 2010 00:08 GMT
#123
Here's some links with some fancy ladders^^:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=123209
http://sc2.17173.com/content/2010-04-19/20100419160405006.shtml
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/ladderinfo/view.php?article_id=1944196
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/ladderinfo/view.php?article_id=1950089
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
May 04 2010 00:22 GMT
#124
On May 04 2010 09:08 einohr wrote:
Here's some links with some fancy ladders^^:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=123209
http://sc2.17173.com/content/2010-04-19/20100419160405006.shtml
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/ladderinfo/view.php?article_id=1944196
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/ladderinfo/view.php?article_id=1950089


None of this information is current.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-04 00:24:47
May 04 2010 00:23 GMT
#125
On May 04 2010 09:06 Zeke50100 wrote:
I don't have the exact stats, but it's very, very obvious that Zerg is dominant on the asian servers >.>

7 of the 10 top players are all Z, or something like that, as well as their higher win rate (I don't know the exact numbers, but it is significantly higher than the other races, for sure)


Yeah and It's obvious that I have a 12 inch penis as well, but I still don't think it really warrants discussion unless I'm willing to measure it right? It's not that I don't believe some of the anecdotes claiming that zerg is dominant on asian servers, its that I actually like to see proof, numbers that support claims.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2384 Posts
May 04 2010 00:45 GMT
#126
On May 04 2010 09:23 Wr3k wrote:Yeah and It's obvious that I have a 12 inch penis as well, but I still don't think it really warrants discussion unless I'm willing to measure it right? It's not that I don't believe some of the anecdotes claiming that zerg is dominant on asian servers, its that I actually like to see proof, numbers that support claims.


There were even numbers in that post you quoted. Gawd.
The original Bogus fan.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
May 04 2010 00:54 GMT
#127
On May 04 2010 09:45 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2010 09:23 Wr3k wrote:Yeah and It's obvious that I have a 12 inch penis as well, but I still don't think it really warrants discussion unless I'm willing to measure it right? It's not that I don't believe some of the anecdotes claiming that zerg is dominant on asian servers, its that I actually like to see proof, numbers that support claims.


There were even numbers in that post you quoted. Gawd.


No numbers from after the reset fiasco or the last couple patches.
einohr
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany45 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-04 01:02:21
May 04 2010 00:55 GMT
#128
On May 04 2010 09:22 Wr3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2010 09:08 einohr wrote:
Here's some links with some fancy ladders^^:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=123209
http://sc2.17173.com/content/2010-04-19/20100419160405006.shtml
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/ladderinfo/view.php?article_id=1944196
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/ladderinfo/view.php?article_id=1950089


None of this information is current.

What is not current?
One snapshot from the ladder was taken today/yesterday(May 3) and the rest were from April 18 and 23 before the ladder reset/bug has occurred.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
May 04 2010 00:59 GMT
#129
On May 04 2010 09:54 Wr3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2010 09:45 Turbovolver wrote:
On May 04 2010 09:23 Wr3k wrote:Yeah and It's obvious that I have a 12 inch penis as well, but I still don't think it really warrants discussion unless I'm willing to measure it right? It's not that I don't believe some of the anecdotes claiming that zerg is dominant on asian servers, its that I actually like to see proof, numbers that support claims.


There were even numbers in that post you quoted. Gawd.


No numbers from after the reset fiasco or the last couple patches.


Because the reset made the ladder un-broken, right? If anything, anything after the reset should be considered null, due to the ladder system being dead.

Oh, and if you can point out any changes that SIGNIFICANTLY changed the way the game was played (disregarding the larva bug), I'd gladly take a look at it. If there wasn't a significant change, then the dominance is likely to continue; and there sure aren't enough subtle changes to make a difference.
WorkersOfTheWorld
Profile Joined April 2010
United States619 Posts
May 04 2010 01:01 GMT
#130
Didn't artosis mention Z were still having their way with the Asian realm? I know his last cast Hawanni mentioned 80% of the players in the tourney (XPlay LAN) were zerg.
Samwise: You don't want to play Dustin [Browder]. He can't even beat the UI, let alone the AI. -
einohr
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany45 Posts
May 04 2010 01:04 GMT
#131
because the protoss player didn't have a pylon to warp in.
Niji87
Profile Joined September 2008
United States112 Posts
May 04 2010 01:29 GMT
#132
Could the higher winrate of the Zerg players in Korea simply be attributed to a higher quantity of Zerg players in Korea?

I don't know the racial distribution or tendencies of Koreans, but I remember hearing that a lot of them play Zerg. If, say, 7 out of 10 players are Zerg, Zerg would have a higher chance of achieving a greater win rate. That chance would only inflate if all the better players believed that Zerg was also the superior race, irregardless of whether it was or not.
I am not very good at playing StarCraft.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
May 04 2010 01:31 GMT
#133
On May 04 2010 10:29 Niji87 wrote:
Could the higher winrate of the Zerg players in Korea simply be attributed to a higher quantity of Zerg players in Korea?

I don't know the racial distribution or tendencies of Koreans, but I remember hearing that a lot of them play Zerg. If, say, 7 out of 10 players are Zerg, Zerg would have a higher chance of achieving a greater win rate. That chance would only inflate if all the better players believed that Zerg was also the superior race, irregardless of whether it was or not.


It shouldn't mean anything. The winrate % is the average win-rate per player, meaning it would only make a difference if a majority of the Zerg were outliers.

Also, irregardless isn't a word >.>
Niji87
Profile Joined September 2008
United States112 Posts
May 04 2010 01:33 GMT
#134
Yes, a lot of people take time out of their day to tell me that. That's part of the reason why I keep using it, haha.

Anyway, I honestly don't even know if there is a bias towards Zerg on the Korean servers.
I am not very good at playing StarCraft.
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
May 04 2010 01:33 GMT
#135
we won't know if it's balanced for a year?

we're not sure if it will ever be balanced enough for a scene that bw has right now in korea

(certainly it won't as balanced or more balanced than scbw, thats impossible)
Nony is Bonjwa
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-04 01:35:50
May 04 2010 01:35 GMT
#136
On May 04 2010 10:33 Niji87 wrote:
Yes, a lot of people take time out of their day to tell me that. That's part of the reason why I keep using it, haha.

Anyway, I honestly don't even know if there is a bias towards Zerg on the Korean servers.


Isn't that called...Trolling? >.>

Anyway, as I said, factional preference doesn't matter at all until outliers come in to play (and only a significant amount)
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
May 04 2010 01:36 GMT
#137
hey people... korean SC2 will be stronger then foreign SC2 scene very soon. in Korea they (will)have a pro-scene, they have former SC:BW pro, the governement helps e-sports


the south african hockey team is not taking out the Canadian Ice-hockey team

a sad reality but a reality nevertheless
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tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 04 2010 01:38 GMT
#138
Korean zergs just try harder.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
May 04 2010 02:40 GMT
#139
On May 04 2010 10:38 tomatriedes wrote:
Korean zergs just try harder.


lol
VarsityUser
Profile Joined June 2009
United States84 Posts
May 04 2010 02:48 GMT
#140
This is just side-talk... Korean z's are not better than usa/europeans atm. in fact I think they play stubborn and worse. I haven't lost vs a single zerg as terran in probably 15 games. If korean t's cant figure out the formula its sad. Anyone wanting to see the strats I use PM me or ask for link.
If its not too much to ask, I'd like my stats returned. I feel I deserve them - Combat-EX
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