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On April 23 2010 09:15 mrdx wrote: So many angry posters here seem to have the illusion that Blizzard is obliged to please you by patching the things you ask for. That's so fucking stupid and unreasonable. 1 - Don't forget Blizzard server recorded actual usage of units/spells over 100,000s of games that have been played, so they certainly have a broader perspective than your limited, often biased 200 game experience. While I'm not saying Blizzard is god, as previous patches showed, you should at least fucking try to play for a while before screaming. Blizzard has been developing this game for 6-7 years now, don't forget that. 2 - Nothing is final, and changes in this patch are not necessary to fix the "wrong" changes in a previous patch. Maybe Blizzard just wanted to experiment new things, or observe how a change affect meta game (for e.g. changes to Marauder). Hell, they may very well fuck around with intentional imbalance tweaks to see how the game would evolve / degrade. 3 - You are a fucking beta tester, not Blizzard's customers for fuck sake. Most of you haven't paid shit to Blizzard to have this awesome privilege and if there's any obligation, it's YOURS - try all the new features and send your feedbacks to Blizzard.
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Holy shit dude chill lol
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On April 23 2010 09:15 mrdx wrote: So many angry posters here seem to have the illusion that Blizzard is obliged to please you by patching the things you ask for. That's so fucking stupid and unreasonable. 1 - Don't forget Blizzard server recorded actual usage of units/spells over 100,000s of games that have been played, so they certainly have a broader perspective than your limited, often biased 200 game experience. While I'm not saying Blizzard is god, as previous patches showed, you should at least fucking try to play for a while before screaming. Blizzard has been developing this game for 6-7 years now, don't forget that. 2 - Nothing is final, and changes in this patch are not necessary to fix the "wrong" changes in a previous patch. Maybe Blizzard just wanted to experiment new things, or observe how a change affect meta game (for e.g. changes to Marauder). Hell, they may very well fuck around with intentional imbalance tweaks to see how the game would evolve / degrade. 3 - You are a fucking beta tester, not Blizzard's customers for fuck sake. Most of you haven't paid shit to Blizzard to have this awesome privilege and if there's any obligation, it's YOURS - try all the new features and send your feedbacks to Blizzard.
If you'd actually read interviews with dustin browder you'd realize that NO, they don't have access to those kinds of statistics. They just have really basic stupid stats like which race has X winrate etc
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On April 23 2010 09:17 Jyvblamo wrote:
Are there images of the new maps?
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It'll be interesting to see what TvP has to offer now that Marauders are making a small comeback for lower concussion costs, and Immortals taking longer to build. What I'm more interested though is how will Protoss mix it up now that stalker/immortal/sentry is a fair composition to use normally now. It seems like Immortals must be used more situationally and preserved more with their hard shields as ghosts pwn those shields instantly
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On April 23 2010 09:16 nodule wrote:
The only zerg nerf was to reduce queen rushing. The infestor was massively improved, and the immortal was nerfed. I'd call that a zerg buff, net-net.
spine crawler attack speed got nerfed. not saying that it shouldnt have been nerfed, just saying that there was in fact a nerf.
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On April 23 2010 09:16 nodule wrote:
The only zerg nerf was to reduce queen rushing. The infestor was massively improved, and the immortal was nerfed. I'd call that a zerg buff, net-net.
what about the spine crawler? well actually it's not that bad I guess
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Looks pretty interesting to me, nice to see some more maps and the additions to battle.net. As far as balance changes go, I play terran. Updating now (just got home from work).
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I would really like to see blizzard put in an upgrade for the immortal, maybe allowing it to hit two targets at once via robo facility upgrade; allowing the protoss to add templar tech without having to spend every ounce of gas just go defend against the endless supply of roaches a zerg can throw at you mid game. It already has the two projectile arms...
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Looks like a terrible patch. The immortal timing nerf was unnecessary.
Fungal growth isn't going to be as interesting now if you can't dodge it.
No more kooky interesting queen play.
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Well guys, im off to bed, going to get up in like 8 hours at 4am EDT if anyone wants to play then let me know, might as well go to sleep now and use our time efficiently :D
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On April 23 2010 03:31 GoodCat1 wrote:
fucking get rid of this stupid infested terran bulshit...nobody wants this crappy spell and they know it!!!
its to kinda be in to coorelation with the terran's raven's auto-turret. except the raven's splash dmg is upgrade-only. you can put the turret down to help kill off any units in the red with it. same with fungal and infested terrans
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From Xordiah on EU bnet forums:
I just got the info, that the patch in Europe has been pushed back a bit and is now scheduled for 19:00 CET. So definitely sleep. 
FML
Guess what time I'm playing WhiteRa tomorrow for HDH Invitational? Ya, 19:00 CET.
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NVM Found patch update problems.
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On April 23 2010 09:28 Sabu113 wrote:
Looks like a terrible patch. The immortal timing nerf was unnecessary.
Fungal growth isn't going to be as interesting now if you can't dodge it.
No more kooky interesting queen play.
why? it was painfully slow off the creep to begin with. now you actually HAVE to use creep tumor instead of it just kinda being a good idea. probably encourage you to build extra queens early on too since you'll be losing those extra few shots on scouting overlords and such, which translate into having extra queens for creep tumor and transfusion down the road. not that some people weren't doing that anyway.
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Well the buffs to concussive shells research and infested terran are definitively welcome, and like other posters said, the nerf to immortals can be seen as a buff for Zerg players, Now I think that we are getting very close to a real balance between Immos, Roaches, and Marauders.
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So, did anyone find images of the new maps?
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On April 23 2010 09:33 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Guess what time I'm playing WhiteRa tomorrow for HDH Invitational? Ya, 19:00 CET.
At least you'll be able to mass marauders again =/.
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Fair enough critique. True, they were painfully slow off of creep. What I'm sad about is that this will nix the chance of any cool queen cheese play.
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