yeah but marines have more hp but idk why you would lower scv hp(something about that scv rush i think..) and im not really caught up as i dont have beta, but do dt's do 45 damage now?

EGLzGaMeR

United States1867 Posts

March 26 2010 03:07 GMT

#302

On March 26 2010 12:05 arb wrote:

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yeah but marines have more hp but idk why you would lower scv hp(something about that scv rush i think..) and im not really caught up as i dont have beta, but do dt's do 45 damage now?

55 DAMAGE :D

Railz

United States1449 Posts

March 26 2010 03:08 GMT

#303

Blizzard needs to understand, it wasn't bunkers helping Terran turtle in SC1, it was the range on tanks. Bunkers were a toy of a building, maybe used once in a series of 5. Turrets are better Static defense as the only decent ground unit harass is a reaper.

Kralic

Canada2628 Posts

March 26 2010 03:10 GMT

#304

Has anyone noticed the game loads slower after this patch?

RPGabe

United States192 Posts

March 26 2010 03:10 GMT

#305

Maybe these changes are to help them not be a 'toy' of a building in SC2, then?

There's no reason they should be punished or overlooked in SC2 based on their performance and uses in SC1.

Mnijykmirl

United States299 Posts

March 26 2010 03:12 GMT

#306

Most hilarious bunch of patch notes I could have thought up, except for the Stalker change. Blizzard's totally missing the ball.

Spartan

United States2030 Posts

March 26 2010 03:13 GMT

#307

On March 26 2010 12:10 Kralic wrote:
Has anyone noticed the game loads slower after this patch?

Mine did. I got that little 400x100 banner on my desktop when SC2 was loading. Apparently this is normal, but before the patch I would never get it - I'm guessing because my shit would load fast enough before.

Kyuukyuu

Canada6263 Posts

March 26 2010 03:13 GMT

#308

wow SCV HP decrease is really depressing for some reason

Joseki

United States200 Posts

March 26 2010 03:14 GMT

#309

Im pretty happy with most of these changes. I don't think the radius nerf to EMP really does anything too relavent though, since you'll be making more ghosts anyway.

Xals

United States6 Posts

March 26 2010 03:15 GMT

#310

Everyone should be patient, who knows what undocumented changes they may have made.

Kralic

Canada2628 Posts

March 26 2010 03:15 GMT

#311

On March 26 2010 12:13 Spartan wrote:

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Yeah that is what I am getting, I literally thought I had to reinstall SCII because it was not loading, restarted my computer a few times, I found a SC2Switcher.exe (in the Support folder in the Starcraft II beta folder)that loaded it fast, not sure what the point of this executable is...

goswser

United States3548 Posts

March 26 2010 03:16 GMT

#312

Marine build time increased? What the FUCK? Reactor nerf I can understand, and it won't effect me. I only get 1 reactor whole game for my port. Stupid bunkers, I don't want to use bunkers more often, stop forcing me to! Fact decrease is ok, ghosts and vikings cost less gas is nice, but all of that'll take some getting used to for sure. Scv hp decrease is depressing, I have to use scvs against ling all-ins all the time, and I had a chance of fending it off then. Good thing I can spam bunkers though, right? Too bad I can't fill them up as quickly so it doesn't matter.
Banelings more effective? I was anticipating a slight nerf.
I really dislike the dark shrine nerf. Not sure I like the obs nerf either.

I think this is because of a certain TvP cheese where T builds normal stuff in his base, denies your probe, goes fast reactor, proxies another 1-2 raxes with reactor, and hits you with like literally 25 marines before its possible to get collosus out.

As to the other changes, I think they fixed a lot of stuff. In a PvZ earlier today I went fe, had 4 cannons at my expo, expected the mass speedling he went for, and blocked my ramp with 35 probes(every single one from both expos lol) and the lings shoved them out of the way and ran into my main, losing like 5 lings.

Also, are rines two shot kills now with collosus after the collosus nerf? Because that combined with the cheaper buildings would make terran pretty buffed in TvP...

Only reason I can see for the DT nerf is because DTs were really imba in PvP, as they took more shots by an immortal than a zealot to kill, and did a shitton of damage.

Kletus

Canada580 Posts

March 26 2010 03:16 GMT

#313

On March 26 2010 12:15 Kralic wrote:

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takes me maybe 15 seconds for it to launch. I think it's just because servers are down though.

arb

Noobville17922 Posts

March 26 2010 03:17 GMT

#314

On March 26 2010 12:07 Lz wrote:

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55 DAMAGE :D

r u for rela

0neder

United States3733 Posts

March 26 2010 03:18 GMT

#315

Instead of making probes more expensive, they should bring back the observatory.

Kralic

Canada2628 Posts

March 26 2010 03:18 GMT

#316

On March 26 2010 12:17 arb wrote:

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r u for rela

Thus the DT nerf?

-fj.

Samoa462 Posts

March 26 2010 03:19 GMT

#317

I'm reaaaally depressed about the SCV health thing... I predict a 500% increase in casualties from probe harass in the coming weeks. SCVs don't even have a ranged attack! they are now the weakest worker T_____T

Dionyseus

United States2068 Posts

March 26 2010 03:20 GMT

#318

On March 26 2010 12:16 Kletus wrote:

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takes me maybe 15 seconds for it to launch. I think it's just because servers are down though.

Yes whenever you launch the SC2 executable I think it does a server check, if the servers are down it will try reconnecting several times before it finally shows you the login screen.