EPTthe splash damage is really small, the firebat in sc1 had alot bigger splash dmg and since it also had stimpack and 1 armor it was much better counter to zergling and zealot than the helion is :/
it looks ugly and its not as fast as an upgraded vult
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
the splash damage is really small, the firebat in sc1 had alot bigger splash dmg and since it also had stimpack and 1 armor it was much better counter to zergling and zealot than the helion is :/ it looks ugly and its not as fast as an upgraded vult | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On March 03 2010 16:17 Umbrella wrote: Good post.... but I still don't like them that much. I liked how vultures didn't immediately stopped when attacking and especially how spider mines functioned in Starcraft. Now I don't mind that Blizzard scraps the vulture; it's a new game. I just want a better replacement. They just need some additional utility and they'd be fine (i.e an ability like spider mines). I'd also like if they didn't stop in that jerky way every time they fire. On March 03 2010 16:19 cUrsOr wrote: I won't lie at all to you guys, equal speed to Speedling would indeed be very very sexy. Those things just look broken sometimes. Of course, you could slow down the Lings but no one is complaining about them ATM. They ARE complaining about the Hellion though. Thought it would be nice to have a place to talk about their finer points  My primary issue with zerglings is how fast they move on creep, completely nullifying scouting (no micro changes anything, just right click and kill it). If Hellions could move/shoot better, they might not fear speed zerglings as much... Maybe. | ||
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SubtleArt
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SoleSteeler
Canada5459 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
On March 03 2010 19:46 MasterDana wrote: While I agree the Hellion is underrated, I feel your argument lacks a real "con" section. You simply talk about the aesthetics of it, not what flaws the unit has. I totally figured that would be taken care of for me... | ||
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tancor
Barbados55 Posts
fuck buggy .. | ||
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Slugbreath
Sweden201 Posts
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
On March 03 2010 16:26 TheAntZ wrote: They cant move while shooting, thus they will NEVER be as good as vultures. You can't compare units from sc1 and sc2 across games, even units that have stayed exactly the same have had their stats tweaked to fit into the balance and flow of the new game! (compare lings vs zealots in sc1 and sc2 for example) On March 03 2010 20:59 MorroW wrote: the thing that i hate about helion is that it takes about 0.4 casting time in the actual unit to do its attack and then it it has like 2.5 second cooldown before it can attack again the splash damage is really small, the firebat in sc1 had alot bigger splash dmg and since it also had stimpack and 1 armor it was much better counter to zergling and zealot than the helion is :/ The way their attack works, you need to micro to get as much units in front of you as possible, which is pretty cool, it's the kind of micro we want right? If workers are running away from their mining when harassed by hellions, they'll line up and getting in the right position you can kill like 8 of them in one attack. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
On March 03 2010 19:11 stenole wrote: (Non-beta player)--- I think one of the great things about the vulture in SC1 is how it forces the opponent to be immobile with the threat of sneaking into his base or with the invisible mines. Because the helion doens't have mines, I wouldn't say it takes over the role of the vulture even though it's speedy and good against the early unit types. Why compare it to a SC1 unit though as if the Terran metagame can just be threaded down on SC2? For a non-beta player that's some pretty insightful shit. Good look at one of the real function of Vultures. Having to clear mines with Ovie and Hydras or Obs and Goons does severely limit early-mid game mobility. | ||
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Ziel
Malaysia241 Posts
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Kurdran
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KameZerg
Sweden1769 Posts
http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/mods/1/11/10244/thumb_620x2000/Render_Buggy.jpg And so is the banshee! http://starcraft.incgamers.com/gallery/data/517/Banshee1.jpg http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/10/9011/Orca_Large.png Dustin is putting 2 franchises together, im just saying. | ||
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Utred
Belgium16 Posts
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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zxc
United States30 Posts
 Oh there is no idea forum! My bad. | ||
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StarBrift
Sweden1761 Posts
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
The Hellion can shoot backwards. That's right bitches, backwards. you need to get your ass recruited by this site with your writing skills! Go find something to report on and maybe you'll replace Dr. Helvetecia haha or maybe they'll find you a spot somewhere else. | ||
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