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[QUOTE]On March 03 2010 16:08 cursor wrote: [center][img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3276248338_651b9124ff_o.jpg[/img] [b]Terran: Hellion
Mineral Cost: 100 Vespian Cost: 0 Supply Used: 2 Type: Light-Mechanical Attack: 8 (+6 vs Light Armor), Normal Speed, Ground only Movement Speed: Fast
Vespene gas!
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On August 01 2011 11:23 Soulish wrote: pointing it out here, if you assume that gas is worth 4 times as much as minerals, Hellions are more cost effective against virtually everything in the game (obvious exceptions being thors, tanks, ultras, archons, etc). If you can line up the shots right, they'll beat roaches, stalkers, you name it, cost for cost.
But why would you assume that? Also, if you simply scale that x4 factor, you can use that statement for any unit comparison where the mineral/gas ratio is not equal to decide that each unit is always cost effective against any different one it can hit.
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I do not love the hellion
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On August 01 2011 11:54 GGDaverave wrote: I do not love the hellion I have a feeling that we are going to feel the burn alot more often now after MLG buddy :p
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i agree the hellion is probably my favorite unit although they dont do to much damage vs anthing except light, late game they tank tons of damage!
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Hellion has been my most hated unit for a long time, looks like now after MLG maybe more than 0.0001% of Terrans will know how to actually use them beyond the suicide at the beginning where you can just auto win to mistakes, although that kills me a lot too.
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Hellion is like baneling landmine, it is awesome for casted games =)
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On August 01 2011 11:05 cursor wrote: I'm refraining from doing an Edit to keep the OP legit. I just checked the stats/upgrades in game and they are still correct from even that long ago, and I'm not going to make an edit just for graphics to attempt to maintain it's humor.
Thanks a lot for the comments guys! Even more funny since the stats/upgrades have remained unchanged and it's just the utility in game, especially in TvT that has evolved. If anyone remembers Beta, this was pretty much written in the phase when Reapers were ruling all in TvT... and of course reapers have since been changed.
<3 You're a precursor sir <3
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On March 03 2010 16:11 Crunchums wrote: How do you not get frustrated when your ~4 hellions die to speedlings because they can't move while shooting and get surrounded? I get very frustrated. I'm all "holy crap you can't even kill the unit you were designed to counter???". They're great for worker harass and useful for scouting/spending extra minerals but they feel extremely weak anywhere else.
I don't mean to be rude, but this is the entitled mentality SC2 has left us with, I feel. With units like Colossi, which kill everything, I'm sure a unit that requires some attention is going to be received with some dismay. However, after knowing how much attention EVERYTHING required in BW, it's amazing to know that we found a unit that requires at least some more attention.
Let the battle between marines and hellions rage on :D
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On March 03 2010 16:11 Crunchums wrote: How do you not get frustrated when your ~4 hellions die to speedlings because they can't move while shooting and get surrounded? I get very frustrated. I'm all "holy crap you can't even kill the unit you were designed to counter???". They're great for worker harass and useful for scouting/spending extra minerals but they feel extremely weak anywhere else.
Man, the whole point is to be able to win with micro. If you don't micro, you'll lose. If you micro well (and abuse chokes) you can survive most of the time.
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On August 01 2011 12:11 PopcornColonel wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/02Zyj.jpg) rofl so very very true
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Hellions gona be the topic of the month and a lot of topics calling then OP would be make, specially by Zerg players and their characteristic QQ.
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cool thread, i still like the vultures but u sure pointed out the positives of the helion good. awesome job.
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Love the Hellion, despise the blue flame upgrade.
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On March 05 2010 02:49 EtherealDeath wrote: >:[ Fuck off helions, stop harassing my probes >_>
You terrans really should learn some more finesse, and not just.. flame your way in. Slammin or not!
Finesse broskis, finesse.
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Nice thread, and great foresight.
On August 01 2011 12:13 reikai wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2010 16:11 Crunchums wrote: How do you not get frustrated when your ~4 hellions die to speedlings because they can't move while shooting and get surrounded? I get very frustrated. I'm all "holy crap you can't even kill the unit you were designed to counter???". They're great for worker harass and useful for scouting/spending extra minerals but they feel extremely weak anywhere else. I don't mean to be rude, but this is the entitled mentality SC2 has left us with, I feel. With units like Colossi, which kill everything, I'm sure a unit that requires some attention is going to be received with some dismay. However, after knowing how much attention EVERYTHING required in BW, it's amazing to know that we found a unit that requires at least some more attention. Let the battle between marines and hellions rage on :D
On August 01 2011 12:16 monitor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2010 16:11 Crunchums wrote: How do you not get frustrated when your ~4 hellions die to speedlings because they can't move while shooting and get surrounded? I get very frustrated. I'm all "holy crap you can't even kill the unit you were designed to counter???". They're great for worker harass and useful for scouting/spending extra minerals but they feel extremely weak anywhere else. Man, the whole point is to be able to win with micro. If you don't micro, you'll lose. If you micro well (and abuse chokes) you can survive most of the time.
I also love when people post in old threads, and new people come in and don't look at the post times of what they're responding to.
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On August 01 2011 11:43 SecondSandwich wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2010 16:08 cursor wrote:[center] ![[image loading]](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3276248338_651b9124ff_o.jpg) [b]Terran: Hellion Mineral Cost: 100 Vespian Cost: 0Supply Used: 2 Type: Light-Mechanical Attack: 8 (+6 vs Light Armor), Normal Speed, Ground only Movement Speed: Fast Vespene gas! CRAP! Thanks for the heads up. I'll change it eventually. lol Funny stuff though guys. <3
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