Beta reception in the WC3 community? - Page 2
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CharlieMurphy
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FREEloss_ca
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SwaY-
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On February 22 2010 18:48 PokePill wrote: Nothing in this games takes more micro beyond dragoon micro in SC:BW. The only players that are doing the "best" are the ones that care enough to perfect a build do it every game instead of experimenting. That's a load of rubbish from a third tier "pro". Goon micro is hard, but how does that compare to a game that is almost entirely micro-based? We're not THAT cool. | ||
deL
Australia5540 Posts
I agree somewhat that WC3 players will be better equipped (or at least on par with) than SC players for things like the micro and some other mechanics but of course the strategy and macro are going to be leagues ahead for SC players and that is where the difference lies. I think it will really depend on the individual as to how they can adapt and how fast they can learn the other part of the game moreso than what background game they came from - because both SC and WC3 players will have the right tools for the job. | ||
Daedes
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Damian
Germany335 Posts
On February 22 2010 21:23 Daedes wrote: i love how on that fourm everyone is saying everything is op You would do it aswell if you were used to it like them "DeMuslim, Zerter, Sein and NightEnD" = Who cares? Sorry, but they arent and never were top-tier material in Wc3. I'd love to hear the opinion of players like Grubby, Lucifer (I adored his interviews ), Moon, TeD, Sky, ToD, Remind, Lyn and the likes... And LOL to the guy who mentioned "Age of"-players. | ||
imperator-xy
Germany1366 Posts
like 95% of the people who tested beta seem to be impressed, but they also feel that macroing is much more important as in wc3. they mostly know that sc is harder than wc3, but they are not talking about who will have advantages. | ||
blizzind
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Redunzl
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Rothbardian
United States497 Posts
On February 22 2010 21:29 Damian wrote: You would do it aswell if you were used to it like them "DeMuslim, Zerter, Sein and NightEnD" = Who cares? Sorry, but they arent and never were top-tier material in Wc3. I'd love to hear the opinion of players like Grubby, Lucifer (I adored his interviews ), Moon, TeD, Sky, ToD, Remind, Lyn and the likes... And LOL to the guy who mentioned "Age of"-players. Yeah...LOL. I know a few Age guys who have been playing SC for the past year getting ready for SCII and they made A-. LOL yourself. Hope_, Iamgrunt, and Koven could roflstomp 99% of the SC/WC3 RTS players. | ||
blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 22 2010 22:21 Rothbardian wrote: Yeah...LOL. I know a few Age guys who have been playing SC for the past year getting ready for SCII and they made A-. LOL yourself. Hope_, Iamgrunt, and Koven could roflstomp 99% of the SC/WC3 RTS players. rofl I am sorry but grunt doesn't play sc and nor would he get A-. The only player from aoe3 to get A- so far is mardow. But aoe3 = noob game. | ||
Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On February 22 2010 21:29 Damian wrote: You would do it aswell if you were used to it like them "DeMuslim, Zerter, Sein and NightEnD" = Who cares? Sorry, but they arent and never were top-tier material in Wc3. I'd love to hear the opinion of players like Grubby, Lucifer (I adored his interviews ), Moon, TeD, Sky, ToD, Remind, Lyn and the likes... And LOL to the guy who mentioned "Age of"-players. Lucifer's in the army now. Pretty sure the reaction is kinda like "OMG SC2! Who cares about wc3 anymore!!" >_< Ofc the WC3 leagues are still going on, but it's kinda last gasp stuff for the major pro series ones. | ||
Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On February 22 2010 17:10 Rothbardian wrote: At this time, rank literally means nothing. Wait until there are 100,000 people playing. We have no clue where WC3 or SC players for that matter will end up in the ranking come release (I'm sure they'll be quite good at the start due to sheer time advantage, but give it 3 months). As for me, I'd love to see a showdown between Ret/Boxer (SC), Moon/Grubby (WC3), and Arch_Koven/Iamgrunt (Age of). I wonder who would come out at the top.... That's such a cop-out response. After having 5 days of playing the rankings have thinned out a bit and we're seeing where players sit. I never asked any of my opponents if they were specifically WC3 players or not, but every known SC player that I go against I get my ass handed to me (Taurent, iNcontroL, RekruL, etc.) On February 22 2010 21:38 blizzind wrote: I've been watching a ton of streams and it seems like people just aren't that comfortable with how the game works yet. Everyone has to look at their base when they build units which is really bad. You should be building all of your units while microing your army and never taking your view off them. If you're toss you really can't do that with warp gates | ||
RaGe
Belgium9937 Posts
On February 22 2010 17:28 Raydog wrote: Well, i haven't played the beta, but i played a lot at blizzcon if that helps. I came from a sponsored wc3 team and commentated for a brief time (might get back into it idk), so i'd say i have extensive knowledge of the game. all the top players i know from war3 are STILL playing the beta haha. They are loving it. I think the game is great, really fun, a "fresh start", basically everything that has been said already on tl a million times on the war3 to sc2 skills, i'd say they can be applied well, but not as well as sc:bw skills. A lot of sc:bw players get the misconception that war3 players don't know anything about sc, but really we keep up with the latest in the korean pro leagues for sc:bw. We know general builds, 12 hatch, etc. We are fans of the game. -But back to the skills, in my opinion, you will be able to pick out the wc3 players from the sc:bw players. since warcraft 3 is a lot more micro oriented, you will see us in fights (maybe not big/huge scale ones) pull units back with barely any hp left, send em back in to fight from a different angle, just general warcraft 3 micro. Also, wc3 macro is easier, so it will be harder for wc3 players to adjust macro-wise. Because wc3 really only needs 2 - 3 macro buildings, and we don't constantly make workers for a good part of the game, only the start. I honestly have no idea to what extent it will replace sc2. All I know is that I have heard/talked to multiple high level pros (above hasuobs, nightend, etc.) and they said they would try sc2 and see how it goes, and will decide from there whether or not to make the switch. I think because of the current imbalance issue (*cough* orc vs undead matchup *cough*) sc2 will gravitate more players. Because having a top level game where thousands of dollars are on the line, there shouldn't be imbalances in the way. They should be addressed immediately. I think wc3 players feel they are going into this at teh same or a little worse off than the sc players. Ya they are both comming from blizzard RTS games, but sc has no heroes, 200 food limit, and just a whole different playstyle than wc3. Wc3 is a game where you only need maybe 185+ apm in order to achieve everything you need in a game (depends on the race of course). But sc i know requires a looot more. and Wc3 players have more apm than just 185 anyway, but im just saying that is an estimate on how much they need. all I know is i've been playing sc:bw for about 3 weeks to prepare for beta, also for just a new challenge. It is a fun-ass game, and at times a lot more fun than wc3 . But really the wc3 scene is happy and afraid for sc2,same as sc:bw people. will wc3 become just a shadow to sc2, with no more leagues, tournaments, etc? (few posts up) and yes, NightEnd is a wc3 player, and a really good one at that. lol nice to know | ||
NonY
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On February 22 2010 22:21 Rothbardian wrote: Yeah...LOL. I know a few Age guys who have been playing SC for the past year getting ready for SCII and they made A-. LOL yourself. Hope_, Iamgrunt, and Koven could roflstomp 99% of the SC/WC3 RTS players. what are their iccup id's? anyway, being able to hit A- means something like top 100 in the non-korean non-chinese community. it's several levels of skill away from being one of the top foreigner players. it's decent but not really notable. imo if you're trying to make them look good, you're better off hiding that info my mind would be blown if flash and jaedong switched games and after a year couldnt even make a dent in its amateur scene :o | ||
Neak
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Raydog
United States632 Posts
glad someone noticed xD | ||
ColorsOfRainbow
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nard
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