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Tears.Of.The.Moon
Profile Joined September 2009
Slovenia715 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-08 18:59:02
October 08 2009 18:47 GMT
#41
TanGeng, restock
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is build time, the time it would take to build the specified unit.
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
October 08 2009 19:52 GMT
#42
This is an amazingly through idea. Good work!

The awesome thing about the SC2 editor is that you could probably custom program the entire race into a UMS for balance testing, supposing that you wanted to submit it to Blizz eventually.
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Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
October 08 2009 19:58 GMT
#43
An incredible amount of work, but another human race is just entirely too unoriginal and not interesting.
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Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
October 08 2009 20:40 GMT
#44
arent the UED part of the human race... aka the Terrans? But I really like the workd *hi5*. Also some of the units look like a mix of protoss + terran D:
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theron[wdt]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States395 Posts
October 08 2009 21:03 GMT
#45
wow, amazing work and effort.
Tears.Of.The.Moon
Profile Joined September 2009
Slovenia715 Posts
October 08 2009 21:20 GMT
#46
Well the terrans are only a small colony, that was living alone in the Koprulu sector for almost 2 centuries,many lightyears away from Earth away from their influnece, they are the mutants and the crimials and the unwanted people that escaped the UPL prosecution.
The UED or the United Earth Directive is on the other an organization compromised of hundreds of states and thousends of colonies.
The terran military is mostly compromised of untrained conscript soldiers,( which would also explain their should batlle life expectency -10 seconds), where the UED is compromised of only profesional soldiers with months/years of training.

And just for clarification the Broodwars UED fleet was mostly compromised of the local Koprulu conscript and the ships they stole from the Dominion. That also explains why they had the same units in BW. The real UED was many times mentioned to be far more advanced than the terrans, and they also have the Atlas system, and they are known to be far more technological advanced in AI technology. Just a comparision, the terrans (Koprulu) population is being estimated at 150-300 milions , where the UED total population is being estimated at 150-250 Bilions. That is quite a difference in population and army strength (they wouldn't have any problems even with defeating the zerg by simply massivly outnumbering them). Some even say the UED is the single strongest force in existence (we don't knot anything about the Xelnaga yet). IMO even if you would join every Terran, Protoss and Zerg forcess together the UED would still be greatly stronger than all of them combined together.
I personaly am not to fond of the terrans and their military (they are to uncivilized) , they look like rednecks with guns. Where the UED is the real military, disciplined and trained. There are alredy 2 alien races, so why not also 2 human races.

And i would just like to mention that this is a suggestion for only a custom fan made campaign, and i am not saying that Blizzard should put one more race in, lol :D
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aG.Admirai
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada55 Posts
October 08 2009 21:33 GMT
#47
This would be quite interesting. Each race can have like a "fathering race"
UED -> Terran
Nega -> Toss
?? (jaedong?lol, technically Naga tho) -> Zerg
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
October 08 2009 22:17 GMT
#48
That the UED used conscripts is actually not a intentional desicion - they were supposed to be a singleplayer only race like the Naga in TFT. They were supposed to be even more technologically advanced than the Protoss but more in the NANOMACHINES! sector instead of MINDCONTROL.
TurboDreams
Profile Joined April 2009
United States427 Posts
October 08 2009 22:37 GMT
#49
ooo this is awesome! I hope you are able to carry it out! :D
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Response
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States1936 Posts
October 08 2009 23:57 GMT
#50
wait so the UED owns everyone but they are just sitting and letting alien races mass up armies to maybe one day be able to match there strength? This seems pretty unrealistic if this is really true about them lol...(I didn't even realize the UED even existed).. and is what you said about them banning religion and stuff true? I need to get updated on my Starcraft Lore apparently lolol
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Tears.Of.The.Moon
Profile Joined September 2009
Slovenia715 Posts
October 09 2009 00:18 GMT
#51
@Response well the thing is, that the UED has almost no information about the aliens, the zerg and the protoss they encountered in BW was their first contact with an alien organizem. They don't know that there exists an alien threat. The exspiditionary fleet they sent to koprulu in BW was sent to check the sector out, and to confirm teh strange romours coming from there. When they discovered the Zerg and the Protoss they changed their objectives, they heavily mobilized the local population, which eventualy made most of their army.The rest you know Just to send a simple signal from Koprulu to Earth would take many years to arive, they are really far away. And since we know that no information was ever received by Earth about the destruction of the Expiditionary fleet by Kerrigan, this means that Earth is most likely not avare of any posiblle threats or what is happening in koprulu. Well they might start to wonder in a few years what hapened to the fleet, and send a second fleet to investigate what happened to the first
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onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
October 09 2009 01:23 GMT
#52
Effect: Deals 350 damage to an single enemy air unit, and stuns it for 3 secods.


Are you fucking retarded?
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
October 09 2009 02:59 GMT
#53
i've created a new race, its super original!!!

its the Terratosserg, its half terran, half protoss and half zerg!
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
nadafanboy42
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands209 Posts
October 09 2009 03:09 GMT
#54
I think you need a new unit, UED Troll Exterminator. On a more serious note, it's a bit hard to picture a whole faction just from a unit list. How do you see the UED working in relation to the other races (1v1), and what is the core of the faction? Like, in BW you can say the core of the Zerg is to overwhelm by sheer force of numbers, the core of the Protoss is not numbers, but a core of few elite strong units, while the Terrans are a bit in between, with units that are relatively fragile, but with an emphasize on massive firepower. What do you envision the UED to be? Like an inverted Terran's, weak on the firepower, but extremely durable? Or something else? Do you have any strategic variations in your mind (like Terran Mech vs Bio strats)?
NaDa/Jaedong/Liquid-Fanboy
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2385 Posts
October 09 2009 04:14 GMT
#55
Seems a slight problem that all the 'mech' ground units can't attack air, unless I missed something.

I was way impressed by this.
The original Bogus fan.
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 09 2009 05:12 GMT
#56
Dude, TL;DR doesn't even touch this.

But major props for your dedication.

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DrTJEckleburg
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1080 Posts
October 09 2009 05:17 GMT
#57
On October 09 2009 10:23 onewingedmoogle wrote:
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Effect: Deals 350 damage to an single enemy air unit, and stuns it for 3 secods.


Are you fucking retarded?


Not exactly constructive.
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Tears.Of.The.Moon
Profile Joined September 2009
Slovenia715 Posts
October 09 2009 09:45 GMT
#58
@nadafanboy42 when creating the UED i had 2 major builds in mind- ground and air, with the UED it's posibble to go with an air only build, since you have enough air units to cover everly role. It's a fleet theme based race, and it also has the fastest air units of all the races, you get your first air attack unit alredy at tier 2. The basic robotics unit are designed to be exstermly massable (Crawler and the Harpy) so you can play by just massing large armies of those early game, or go with the more dedicated stronger manned planes and vehicles. The race has some weakness with some builds at some specific tiers, but those are intentional, i didn't want the ued to overpovered.

Cons:
- the basic units are weak
-the basic defence structer is the weakest of all the 3 races
-late tier ground build is weak against air
-the UED detector is a the only ground detector in the game, and is much more vurnable and open to enemy fire
-there is no cliffjumping unit
-the units reaquire upgrades to achive their full potential
-the replicate macro ability is only avaible at tier 2.5
-there aren't any pure damagedealing spels avaible (like psistorm, seeker misile..)
-it takes time to build a building, since you have to wait first, for it to arive from the space/air

Pros
-the basic units are exstremly massable and can be build very fast at high numbers
- the later game defense building is the strongest defense in the game
-The Gnome the UED ground detector is one of the best support units in the game, it's a detector and also repairs all mechanical units at a very fast rate (like M&, but with a mech build)
- There are 2 very good harass units the Centurion and the Harpy
-There is a lot of potential to upgrade unit and make them costeffective even later game
-The replicate ability is one of the strongest macro abilities
-There is a high number of support spells, great at cripling your enemy forcess and raising the potential of yours
-The UED is very effective against enemy caster, 2 units are specialized at killing energy units or crippling them
-teh faster air units in the game, with an posibility of going with an air only build
-the strongest air build in the game, the UED is designed to rule the sky/space
-lots of choiches with lots of different build ( ground only, ground with air support, air only)
-high mobility, the fastest avaible transport unit and lots of other stuff , that make the UED one of the most mobile and flexible races

@Turbovolver their are alredy 2 ground units capable of attacking air (Nemesis and the Legionare), i decided tha more is not needed, since you have the fastest air units in the game, that are completely capable of air defence. We don't want every build to be op,and with no counters :p

To simplify you have 3 different builds air only, ground only , air and ground mix. The mix of air and ground is the safest and most flexible, since you can adjust to your oponents play and his build the most. The air only and the ground only builds are more effective but also more specialized, the ground build is weak to enemy air builds, where the air build is highly effective against enemy air builds and counters it easily, but is fragile to enemy ground antiair builds, which can easily be countered by your ground build. So it's basicly a question of scouting and what your oponent thinks what build you are going with, if he thinks that you are going with an air build and prepares for one, he will be heavily countered by the ground build, but if he thinks you are going with an ground build, your air build will destroy him. But if that is to risky, you can still play it safe and go with an mix build, which is slower at the begining, but is very hard to counter.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
October 09 2009 10:37 GMT
#59
Nobody can comment on the balancing at the moment but if you make the animation adjustible the rest can be tweaked with cost/timing changes
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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
October 09 2009 10:50 GMT
#60
i didn't read through all the units and effects but it appears that you don't know much about modding in general and your project idea is really big... i'm not sure how good the sc2 campaign editor is but doing this is going to be really tough.
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