Yeah I think the reaper upgrade is very neat, I do not think the building attack is necessary at this point as it would be OP. This provides a lot of opportunity for some good reaper/expansion harass as zerg wont have much protection until queen, toss until stalker/MS core comes out or forces some kind of static defense. In this patch it looks like T is setup as the aggressor.

Mariosatr

294 Posts

January 17 2013 22:36 GMT

#42

Not sure reaper change does enough. Sure, they're easier to get, but the only thing they're useful for (harassing workers), they're not great at anymore. Reapers need more damage, not health. Still takes quite a few shots to kill a single worker. Unless the HP is buffed to like 100+, HP will not really help at all, as they will still be bad at harassing workers.

Disastorm

United States922 Posts

January 17 2013 22:37 GMT

#43

On January 18 2013 07:27 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
I like the burrow change. Reaper change is meh have to see it in action... Increasing the Voidray supply wtf? didn't really know they were being that big of a problem... guess I should have been using them more xD

You really should have, Void rays were considered like the best unit in the game. In fact I think its safe to say that even this nerf might not be enough.

TeeTS

Germany2762 Posts

January 17 2013 22:37 GMT

#44

burrow in hatch tech, wtf? Do they even know their own game a little bit?
burrowed banelings in hatchery tech sounds like a fucking joke. But it seems it's still just Blizzard (un)balancing the game.

Deleted User 135096

3624 Posts

January 17 2013 22:40 GMT

#45

wtf, the musician in me is screaming.....

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WHY CAN'T YOU #$%#$%## COUNT FOR YOURSELVES?!

but more seriously, is this an actually visible countdown timer on the void ray?

obsid

United States389 Posts

January 17 2013 22:41 GMT

#46

I think these are great changes. The reaprer hp buff will hopefuly help it see more use then just the first few minutes of the game, and the supply increase makes the voidray ball a little more manageable at 200/200 (which is when voidrays are almost impossible to deal with before). The burrow upgrade I know has gotten talked about a bunch before, and while it might be OP its close to balanced and I think will take time to see if we find any early game pushes that are too powerful.

Manijak

Slovenia112 Posts

January 17 2013 22:43 GMT

#47

Burrow changes sound really good. Hope to see more Z early game action, not just late game.

Havik_

United States5585 Posts

January 17 2013 22:43 GMT

#48

What's with all these nerfs to Protoss as of late? Are they really that OP? They were terrible when the beta first started.

Seiniyta

Belgium1815 Posts

January 17 2013 22:43 GMT

#49

On January 18 2013 07:40 wo1fwood wrote:
wtf, the musician in me is screaming.....

+ Show Spoiler +

WHY CAN'T YOU #$%#$%## COUNT FOR YOURSELVES?!

but more seriously, is this an actually visible countdown timer on the void ray?

It might be like the timer you see for injection/Chronoboost

Rad

United States935 Posts

January 17 2013 22:43 GMT

#50

Tacking on a timer sounds really lazy. If it's hard for people to tell that the voids are in kill everything mode, improve the visuals slightly, don't just tack on a timer that screams "BACK AWAY!!"

Thumbs up on the burrow change. Dunno about reaper change. Don't like the increase in void supply.

Zer atai

United States691 Posts

January 17 2013 22:45 GMT

#51

I think the burrow change is a good thing

snively

United States1159 Posts

January 17 2013 22:46 GMT

#52

i like the void ray nerf. makes protoss earlygame better, and deathball weaker

Ctone23

United States1841 Posts

January 17 2013 22:46 GMT

#53

I'm scared of early burrowed banes now. Void change is good IMHO

Aveng3r

United States2411 Posts

January 17 2013 22:48 GMT

#54

nice to see that theyre encouraging skillful play with the void ray change

patronage

Iraq123 Posts

January 17 2013 22:49 GMT

#55

On January 18 2013 07:43 Rad wrote:
Tacking on a timer sounds really lazy. If it's hard for people to tell that the voids are in kill everything mode, improve the visuals slightly, don't just tack on a timer that screams "BACK AWAY!!"

Thumbs up on the burrow change. Dunno about reaper change. Don't like the increase in void supply.

Isn't the timer only for the protoss, to see that his ability is active?

MilesTeg

France1271 Posts

January 17 2013 22:49 GMT

#56

All of those are good changes...but pretty small changes. Still, after a couple bad patches it's good to see the game get a bit better.

lorestarcraft

United States1049 Posts

January 17 2013 22:51 GMT

#57

The burrow at hatch is such a joke. By by harassment of any kind, just burrow your drones at 5 minutes.

xsnac

Barbados1365 Posts

January 17 2013 22:51 GMT

#58

why would reapers need more health they alredy tank enough for how small / cheap they are and they force protoss to have 1 stalker in main and 1 in the nat early game wich kinda sux not saying you gain full map control and scouting