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BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
December 05 2012 23:52 GMT
#101
On December 06 2012 08:50 Sworm_MS wrote:
Mutalisk
Speed increased from 3.75 to 4.

Toss will now suck even more, way more... I don't know about terran, have to see a new Thor in action


Didn't you see the huge buffs to Phoenix and Oracle? Mutalisk will be used even less in both ZvT and ZvP then before.
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
December 05 2012 23:52 GMT
#102
On December 06 2012 08:51 Breach_hu wrote:
JUST IMAGINE THE MINDGAME!!!!! YOU RESEARCH CLOAK INSTEAD OF THE MEDIVAC REACTOR! THIS IS JUST HUGE!

Dude... That's like the ultimate mindgame.
Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
December 05 2012 23:53 GMT
#103
On December 06 2012 08:50 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 08:49 Bareleon wrote:
Can anyone please explain to me what the VR changes mean? Ty!


VR does one base damage now with an ability that does +armor damage for a couple seconds, no more passive bonus to armor/massive units


So VRs still suck?
SolidMoose
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1240 Posts
December 05 2012 23:53 GMT
#104
On December 06 2012 08:48 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 08:46 Sworm_MS wrote:
Medivac:
Cost increased from 100/100 and 80 seconds to 150/150 and 110 seconds.

Actually it's not even a nerf, it's a huge phase out of bio usability. They combined air/mech upgrades yes, but T mech has not got any buffs vs P. (WM doesn't hit cloaked - nerf)
So basically i think it's very disputable... but it's still beta ...

That's for the upgrade.


Yeah, medivacs don't take 80 seconds to build lol. If they did that to the medivac itself...
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
December 05 2012 23:53 GMT
#105
So, vortex should be removed as it is simply something taking up space? The void ray is now a worse unit? Hmm...
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
December 05 2012 23:54 GMT
#106
Just checking, but is the editor accessible in the beta now? I thought I remembered them saying the new editor would not be accessible until release.
Who dat ninja?
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 00:02:04
December 05 2012 23:57 GMT
#107
Holy shit, these are crazy.

Everything Terran has got massively buffed... except widow mines. They still suck, and that upgrade is worthless.

also does this mean thors have a single target mode for anti air? do they still have their original splash in explosive mode? If thors dont have splash, dealing with mutas will be impossible.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
December 05 2012 23:57 GMT
#108
k i like them terran changes, im happy :D mayb raven changes not that much, cauz i liked them splash but ok
yo
Sworm_MS
Profile Joined November 2012
17 Posts
December 05 2012 23:59 GMT
#109
On December 06 2012 08:50 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 08:46 Sworm_MS wrote:
Medivac:
Cost increased from 100/100 and 80 seconds to 150/150 and 110 seconds.

Actually it's not even a nerf, it's a huge phase out of bio usability. They combined air/mech upgrades yes, but T mech has not got any buffs vs P. (WM doesn't hit cloaked - nerf)
So basically i think it's very disputable... but it's still beta ...

WM hitting cloaked units was kind of retarded to begin with.... Hellbats got a buff with more splash they can wipe out chargelots even easier. All mech upgrades in one is fucking huge, being able to add in fully upgraded banshees and BC's late game could be crazy strong. Thor buff to take out tempests easier is good too.

I won't argue now, may be you are right, i hope so. Must see a bunch of pro plays in the next few weeks to make things clear.
Terran needs mech be viable, vastly needs. And i can see a potential here but still, it's just early to say that.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
December 06 2012 00:01 GMT
#110
On December 06 2012 08:54 urashimakt wrote:
Just checking, but is the editor accessible in the beta now? I thought I remembered them saying the new editor would not be accessible until release.


editor has always been available
starleague forever
Sworm_MS
Profile Joined November 2012
17 Posts
December 06 2012 00:02 GMT
#111
On December 06 2012 08:48 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 08:46 Sworm_MS wrote:
Medivac:
Cost increased from 100/100 and 80 seconds to 150/150 and 110 seconds.

Actually it's not even a nerf, it's a huge phase out of bio usability. They combined air/mech upgrades yes, but T mech has not got any buffs vs P. (WM doesn't hit cloaked - nerf)
So basically i think it's very disputable... but it's still beta ...

That's for the upgrade.

Hmm... little mess up with the patch notes... if so, well it's great!
niladorus
Profile Joined September 2011
Greece116 Posts
December 06 2012 00:02 GMT
#112
Reaper
Base speed increased from 2.95 to 3.375
Upgraded speed increased from 3.84 to 4.25.


i am seriously scared
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
December 06 2012 00:02 GMT
#113
On December 06 2012 08:57 Darpa wrote:
Holy shit, these are crazy.

Everything Terran has got massively buffed... except widow mines. They still suck, and that upgrade is worthless.

Well, it's not worthless if you use them actively in engagements. Going to be really, really hard to use like that though.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16122 Posts
December 06 2012 00:03 GMT
#114
On December 06 2012 08:46 Sworm_MS wrote:
Medivac:
Cost increased from 100/100 and 80 seconds to 150/150 and 110 seconds.

Actually it's not even a nerf, it's a huge phase out of bio usability. They combined air/mech upgrades yes, but T mech has not got any buffs vs P. (WM doesn't hit cloaked - nerf)
So basically i think it's very disputable... but it's still beta ...


It isn't the cost of the medivac that was increased it was the cost of the Caudecous Reactor upgrade.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Sworm_MS
Profile Joined November 2012
17 Posts
December 06 2012 00:04 GMT
#115
On December 06 2012 09:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 08:46 Sworm_MS wrote:
Medivac:
Cost increased from 100/100 and 80 seconds to 150/150 and 110 seconds.

Actually it's not even a nerf, it's a huge phase out of bio usability. They combined air/mech upgrades yes, but T mech has not got any buffs vs P. (WM doesn't hit cloaked - nerf)
So basically i think it's very disputable... but it's still beta ...


It isn't the cost of the medivac that was increased it was the cost of the Caudecous Reactor upgrade.

Yes, already mentioned, thanks, my wrong.
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
December 06 2012 00:07 GMT
#116
Still only 6 pages? Thats depressingly low. Is SC really that dead?
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 00:10:50
December 06 2012 00:08 GMT
#117
Wow, +66% medivac heal rate.
DT shrine 100/100. Well it will help rushing and won't help lategame. Exactly what they didn't want to do.
Widow mine still hits air. That makes me sad panda.
ITs not getting upgrades, that's quite huge.
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 00:10:17
December 06 2012 00:09 GMT
#118
On December 06 2012 09:01 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 08:54 urashimakt wrote:
Just checking, but is the editor accessible in the beta now? I thought I remembered them saying the new editor would not be accessible until release.


editor has always been available

Yeah, I messed that question up. What I meant was: Are the Heart of the Swarm libraries available to the beta editor yet.
Who dat ninja?
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 00:12:56
December 06 2012 00:10 GMT
#119
-Wrong thread-
MMA: The true King of Wings
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
December 06 2012 00:10 GMT
#120
On December 06 2012 09:07 CruelZeratul wrote:
Still only 6 pages? Thats depressingly low. Is SC really that dead?

The fuck?

Most people don't even read the HOTS subforum, there's plenty of discussion on reddit at least.
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