I think they still have the armored bonus, it looks like only the +20% vs massive was removed, so:

6 dmg + 4 vs massive + 6 from new skill = 16... with 2 attacks / second.... a total of 32 damage/s versus armored units... this is a 90% +buff to the old not charged armored dps.

a176

Canada6688 Posts

December 06 2012 00:30 GMT

#128

On December 06 2012 09:18 SarcasmMonster wrote:

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Maybe Hydras will be viable vs Muta? They aren't gimped half their damage like in BW.

nah they still have to run around base to base with buildings and ramps and shit in the way,

Bareleon

371 Posts

December 06 2012 00:30 GMT

#129

Maybe now we can finally soft counter the curropter with phoenix with micro? FINALLY!!

At least I hope.

FrodaN

754 Posts

December 06 2012 00:36 GMT

#130

Omfg....these is so game breaking lol

StarVe

Germany13591 Posts

December 06 2012 00:37 GMT

#131

On December 06 2012 09:36 FrodaN wrote:
Omfg....these is so game breaking lol

The more game breaking the better.

Nightshade_

United States549 Posts

December 06 2012 00:40 GMT

#132

Any idea as of when this goes live?

tili

United States1332 Posts

December 06 2012 01:39 GMT

#133

LOL
I love how Vortex doesn't even work on massive units ---- i.e. there is literally nothing worth considering to use it on.
I get their point, but still, it should just be removed if it doesn't even act like a

Also, it is impossible to guess how this will effect the meta game for at *least* 2-3 months. These changes are so huge, it'll take a while for players to explore the options and various responses.

Bareleon

371 Posts

December 06 2012 01:48 GMT

#134

They need more stuff for toss to "wow" the spectators and not be a boring race to play.

They had an ability to shut down defensive buildings... took it out.
They had a cloak ability (not counting the stupid mothership)...took it out.

Those two above would be amazing to see.

Cloak needs to come back and how about the Graviton Beam can shut down defensive building and it also cannot detect but the Phoneix has to stay there and energy gradually goes down then when the Phoneix moves again, the affects stay on the building for 3 sec.

I would also like to see upgrades for DTs on the Dark Shrine.

Plus, a cost reduction on the DTs and/or a Templar Archives alone can unlock DT tech.

And Oracle harassing a terran? Lol ok, hello 9 range viking! No wonder why it was easier to harass terran in BW...

MrHavix

United States53 Posts

December 06 2012 02:13 GMT

#135

So proud. This Daft Punk song came to mind as soon as I read the changes:

Buy it, use it, break it, fix it,
Trash it, change it, mail - upgrade it,
Charge it, point it, zoom it, press it,
Snap it, work it, quick - erase it,
Write it, cut it, paste it, save it,
Load it, check it, quick - rewrite it,
Plug it, play it, burn it, rip it,
Drag and drop it, zip - unzip it,
Lock it, fill it, call it, find it,
View it, code it, jam - unlock it,
Surf it, scroll it, pause it, click it,
Cross it, crack it, switch - update it,
Name it, rate it, tune it, print it,
Scan it, send it, fax - rename it,
Touch it, bring it, Pay it, watch it,
Turn it, leave it, start - format it.

Existor

Russian Federation4295 Posts

December 06 2012 02:21 GMT

#136

Can be downloaded now. 4.41 GB

AfricanPsycho

South Africa158 Posts

December 06 2012 02:23 GMT

#137

4.74GB for me, wtf, why so big?