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aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 00:06:18
October 27 2012 00:00 GMT
#261
White-Ra looks like he is having fun though, so much fun (raiding a meching Terran). Although it looks like he needs some Zealots or Tempests for this game. Mmmmm, my life for Aiur, indeed. Also, it's good that the Oracle does not appear so OP that Protoss can do without our major AOE. It means that it may not be OP, and that major nerfs may not be required.

No sigh of Colossus though! ;-) Just High Templars. :-)

Of course, it's early days, and it will be difficult to make even an approximately accurate assessment for a while yet.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
October 27 2012 00:05 GMT
#262
On October 27 2012 08:57 Baum wrote:
Is terran still in the game?


with time warp + storm??? nope xD
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
October 27 2012 00:10 GMT
#263
While as much fun as it is to watch terran mech vs protoss...they do seem to lose a lot
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
October 27 2012 00:11 GMT
#264
I hate to be "that guy" but these non-terran changes are making me flaccid . Makes me want to just ladder with zerg...their changes seem much more entertaining than the other two in my opinion...still wish terran mech AA would be fixed ...and no mech vs protoss
I'm terranfying
Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
October 27 2012 00:11 GMT
#265
White Ra's macro/harass/storms/feeds backs won the game. Plus a well-engineered base race. IMO the time-warps didn't seem that effective in the game except when he used it once to catch up to a retreating mech division.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
October 27 2012 00:12 GMT
#266
On October 27 2012 09:10 Fungal Growth wrote:
While as much fun as it is to watch terran mech vs protoss...they do seem to lose a lot


I don't think a straight up buff to the Widow Mine is an option (unless we want to explode the community with QQ ).

Buff to Siege Tanks please.
MMA: The true King of Wings
EntDreamin
Profile Joined September 2012
New Zealand45 Posts
October 27 2012 00:13 GMT
#267
On October 27 2012 09:12 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 09:10 Fungal Growth wrote:
While as much fun as it is to watch terran mech vs protoss...they do seem to lose a lot


I don't think a straight up buff to the Widow Mine is an option (unless we want to explode the community with QQ ).

Buff to Siege Tanks please.


How about...the Goliath...mind blown :O
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
October 27 2012 00:15 GMT
#268
On October 27 2012 09:13 EntDreamin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 09:12 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On October 27 2012 09:10 Fungal Growth wrote:
While as much fun as it is to watch terran mech vs protoss...they do seem to lose a lot


I don't think a straight up buff to the Widow Mine is an option (unless we want to explode the community with QQ ).

Buff to Siege Tanks please.


How about...the Goliath...mind blown :O


Goliath is boring. Change the Thor to be the AA mech (nerf it's DPS vs ground to comensate).
MMA: The true King of Wings
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 00:19:26
October 27 2012 00:19 GMT
#269
On October 27 2012 09:12 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 09:10 Fungal Growth wrote:
While as much fun as it is to watch terran mech vs protoss...they do seem to lose a lot


I don't think a straight up buff to the Widow Mine is an option (unless we want to explode the community with QQ ).

Buff to Siege Tanks please.


Make the Thors a viable Units in Tvp would help as well ..
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 00:24:42
October 27 2012 00:24 GMT
#270
Remove Thor energy and give the single target shot of Thor's anti air a huge bonus vs Armoured. done
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
October 27 2012 00:26 GMT
#271
As a terran I am really not looking forward to HOTS. Atm it's insane how hard terran is in WOL for someone that cant practice 6+ hours everyday. You would expect that blizzard would help us in HOTS, but it seems the other way around: it gets even harder
fickazzz
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany152 Posts
October 27 2012 00:28 GMT
#272
entomb was imo a really fun ability!

this new beam is just so bad... and i don't think the timewarp is worth to cast on the workers on either the mineral line or vespin gas....

feels like going oracle is just a mid-lategame thing to add to your deathball now... great :/
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 27 2012 00:30 GMT
#273
On October 27 2012 09:24 MCDayC wrote:
Remove Thor energy and give the single target shot of Thor's anti air a huge bonus vs Armoured. done

But what about Mutas D:
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
neversleeping
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
117 Posts
October 27 2012 00:32 GMT
#274
They've even admitted the 250mm cannon / etc. on thors is terribad, considering the insane changes they're obviously willing to throw out there in HOTS beta, what the hell haven't they done SOMETHING yet for terran mech, thors in particular? Just freaking remove the upgrade and the energy. Find a single terran that would think that was a bad change. What's ridiculous is the energy removal alone wouldn't help -that- much, and they won't even go that far.
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
October 27 2012 00:33 GMT
#275
Haha entomb is gone.

Knew it since the beginning....what kind of an imba spell is that -_-
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
October 27 2012 00:35 GMT
#276
blizzard is still airballing the expansion x.x
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 00:38:03
October 27 2012 00:37 GMT
#277
On October 27 2012 09:26 Snowbear wrote:
As a terran I am really not looking forward to HOTS. Atm it's insane how hard terran is in WOL for someone that cant practice 6+ hours everyday. You would expect that blizzard would help us in HOTS, but it seems the other way around: it gets even harder


Yeah, it would suck. But DB did say, long ago, that because Terran was the most complete race in SC2, they were hesitant to add too much to Terran. That said, it would be nice to see a small buff to mech - maybe by a small buff to Tanks? If so, I hope it's balanced vs Stalkers as the Hellbat has gone a long way to nullifying Zealot heavy armies in PvT. Of course, if they do buff the Tanks substantively, it may be grounds to tweak the Immortal and return it to being a Gateway unit.

WhiteRa does look like he is having a lot of fun, though. His games, so far, have all been active with plenty of action.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
October 27 2012 00:40 GMT
#278
So far, there is no way I'm buying hots for a mine and a half-assed transformer hellion.
Terran & Potato Salad.
EntDreamin
Profile Joined September 2012
New Zealand45 Posts
October 27 2012 00:43 GMT
#279
On October 27 2012 09:40 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
So far, there is no way I'm buying hots for a mine and a half-assed transformer hellion.


Agreed, nothing in HotS keeps me, a terran player, actually interested :/
I've only played the beta for a week and I'm bored
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 00:53:11
October 27 2012 00:51 GMT
#280
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