Balance Update #7 10/26/12 - Page 31

On October 30 2012 11:08 juicyjames wrote:
Here is a good video IPL posted previewing the patch in case people want visuals.

On October 30 2012 20:20 Salteador Neo wrote:
I wonder if they will even consider making fungal not hit air. Would make WoL so much better for sure.

Edit: Oh wow that spine crawler change is sweet :o

On October 30 2012 22:11 iNviSible.yunO wrote:
"...We believe that Pulsar Beam solves issues 1 and 2. Even in internal testing, we’re seeing a crystal clear difference when a Master level player uses it versus when a platinum player uses it, and there are always different degrees of success depending on how well the player uses it and how well the opponent counters it"

Can someone please explain this to me? Select X Oracles, destroy a building hitting ONE hotkey and get out before defending troops show up. Anyone can do this, barely any mico involved, right? So a masters player is supposed to do better because of what? mhmmm

edit: not suggesting that its supereasy...the ability to multitask is always a factor. but what does this spell offer pros to set them apart from lesser players?

On October 30 2012 22:11 iNviSible.yunO wrote:
"...We believe that Pulsar Beam solves issues 1 and 2. Even in internal testing, we’re seeing a crystal clear difference when a Master level player uses it versus when a platinum player uses it, and there are always different degrees of success depending on how well the player uses it and how well the opponent counters it"

Can someone please explain this to me? Select X Oracles, destroy a building hitting ONE hotkey and get out before defending troops show up. Anyone can do this, barely any mico involved, right? So a masters player is supposed to do better because of what? mhmmm

edit: not suggesting that its supereasy...the ability to multitask is always a factor. but what does this spell offer pros to set them apart from lesser players?

On October 30 2012 22:43 rpgalon wrote:


You can make anything look like just clicks on the keyboard and some mouse movements, but there is far more things involved in the oracle harass than you seem to know, for example: all players can get luck but only good players are able to make the enemy army move to the place they want, when they want, so the oracle harass can be done effectively.
Not only that, oracle are fragile and expensive units that requires a lot of your screen time focus, their survivability depends on it's speed so you need to pay attention.

On October 30 2012 22:11 iNviSible.yunO wrote:
"...We believe that Pulsar Beam solves issues 1 and 2. Even in internal testing, we’re seeing a crystal clear difference when a Master level player uses it versus when a platinum player uses it, and there are always different degrees of success depending on how well the player uses it and how well the opponent counters it"

Can someone please explain this to me? Select X Oracles, destroy a building hitting ONE hotkey and get out before defending troops show up. Anyone can do this, barely any mico involved, right? So a masters player is supposed to do better because of what? mhmmm

edit: not suggesting that its supereasy...the ability to multitask is always a factor. but what does this spell offer pros to set them apart from lesser players?

On October 30 2012 00:34 ThirdDegree wrote:
I played with the new patch last night. In a PvZ, I went double stargate and got 4 oracles right away. Them plus a few phoenixes for lifts I sniped down the 3rd hatch before the zerg could do anything about it. Now granted, it's beta and everyone is more concerned with playing with the new toys than viable strategies, so I don't expect to be able to get out so many oracles so quickly and still be safe. That being said, I think getting 4-5 for late game PvZ could be pretty sick. Have them circumvent the zerg army and snipe down important tech structures. Could be cool

On October 29 2012 13:23 Freeborn wrote:


You know I think the main difference between SC1 and SC2 may be just that. With SC1 they just wanted to make a cool fun game with three distinctly different races and playstyles. Only after they did that they started balancing shit out and did not really succeed until brood war and maybe not even then. But it was fun.

With SC2 they started out with worrying about making units or abilities too strong and while trying to make SC2 different from SC2 also somehow lost the eye for the distinctness of the races.

But I feel like they want to go back to the Fun First directive now.
The oracle certainly seems like fun even though the 100 million zerg in HotS keep massacring me while I experiment with it -_-
Seriously does anybody play something else than zerg in HotS...?

Anyway I am excited for the next patch and balance changes.

"...We believe that Pulsar Beam solves issues 1 and 2. Even in internal testing, we’re seeing a crystal clear difference when a Master level player uses it versus when a platinum player uses it, and there are always different degrees of success depending on how well the player uses it and how well the opponent counters it"

Can someone please explain this to me? Select X Oracles, destroy a building hitting ONE hotkey and get out before defending troops show up. Anyone can do this, barely any mico involved, right? So a masters player is supposed to do better because of what? mhmmm

On October 30 2012 21:59 Big G wrote:
Fungal should just grant an 80% slow. That's a sort of diminishing return for chain fungals, especially against mutas and phoenixes due to their speed. Even if the first fungal hits everything, 2 or more fungals are needed after that to catch the fleeing units.

I really hope Blizzard starts to consider this.