EPTBut fuck yes dropping widow mines FUCK YEAH
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10343 Posts
But fuck yes dropping widow mines FUCK YEAH | ||
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SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
On October 07 2012 06:03 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: It's not a lurker nor a reaver, it's UNIQUE!!! But fuck yes dropping widow mines FUCK YEAH I'm going to call it a Terran-Reaver to please my own BW elitism. | ||
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
On October 07 2012 06:03 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: It's not a lurker nor a reaver, it's UNIQUE!!! But fuck yes dropping widow mines FUCK YEAH It's actually not that unique it's a fucking reaver that has free scarabs and weaker splash, | ||
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SarcasmMonster
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Limniscate
United States84 Posts
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iKill
Denmark861 Posts
On October 07 2012 05:01 Salient wrote: You can try, but you'll miss the sentry energy :p and WMs aren't that expensive, if he's going 3rax -> fast starport he'll have the factory up anyway. you can swap it around with a reactored rax, get CS while pumping out 3 widow mines + starport then continue with a slightly later reactor on the starport. at the moment I'd dare say it's worth it, considering how hard it is for toss to get rid of mines now once there's more than 2 or 3. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On October 07 2012 06:09 SarcasmMonster wrote: Where is the Terran-Lurker-Reaver, or Lureaver option? | ||
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
On October 07 2012 06:21 Ramiz1989 wrote: Where is the Terran-Lurker-Reaver, or Lureaver option? At some point, Frankenstein's Monster stopped being an assemblage of other people's body parts and became it's own individual. The Widow Mine is composed of bits from Terran Spider Mines, Protoss Reavers, and Zerg Lurkers. I think that this version is different enough to be called its own thing now. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On October 07 2012 06:29 NicolBolas wrote: At some point, Frankenstein's Monster stopped being an assemblage of other people's body parts and became it's own individual. The Widow Mine is composed of bits from Terran Spider Mines, Protoss Reavers, and Zerg Lurkers. I think that this version is different enough to be called its own thing now. You, sir, are a poet. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On October 07 2012 06:29 NicolBolas wrote: At some point, Frankenstein's Monster stopped being an assemblage of other people's body parts and became it's own individual. The Widow Mine is composed of bits from Terran Spider Mines, Protoss Reavers, and Zerg Lurkers. I think that this version is different enough to be called its own thing now. Can we call it... the Super Shredder? Terran will need a TGRI ooze upgrade though. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10343 Posts
On October 07 2012 06:07 SigmaoctanusIV wrote: It's actually not that unique it's a fucking reaver that has free scarabs and weaker splash, so a tempest is like a battle cruiser except it shoots slower and has longer range | ||
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SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
On October 07 2012 07:16 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: so a tempest is like a battle cruiser except it shoots slower and has longer range I'm Ryan Gosling except the good looks and fame. | ||
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kuroshiro
United Kingdom378 Posts
also, yeah, it's quite a bit like a reaver. Dammit, why didnt protoss just get a reaver TT | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10343 Posts
On October 07 2012 07:23 kuroshiro wrote: Is anyone else worried that the new widow mine overlaps massively with the siege tank? What would be the effect of just buffing siege tanks back to beta/BW damage instead? also, yeah, it's quite a bit like a reaver. Dammit, why didnt protoss just get a reaver TT No, they have some overlap but many units do. They are quite different o.o they won't work as well in fights. They're still more like mines than tanks. On October 07 2012 07:18 SarcasmMonster wrote: I'm Ryan Gosling except the good looks and fame. ;D | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On October 07 2012 07:23 kuroshiro wrote: Is anyone else worried that the new widow mine overlaps massively with the siege tank? What would be the effect of just buffing siege tanks back to beta/BW damage instead? also, yeah, it's quite a bit like a reaver. Dammit, why didnt protoss just get a reaver TT The new mine looks like Swarm Host to me. It attacks while burrowed, it recharges missiles (instead of respawning units) for free. Difference? Other than missiles instead of free spawned units, there's nothing else. | ||
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SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
On October 07 2012 07:27 darkness wrote: The new mine looks like Swarm Host to me. It attacks while burrowed, it recharges missiles (instead of respawning units) for free. Difference? Other than missiles instead of free spawned units, there's nothing else. Mines are all burst+splash damage, whereas Swarm hosts are more sustained damage. Locusts provide meat shields vs ground units, and the host can unburrow and retreat behind the meat shields. Swarm hosts have something like 30+ effective range with the upgrade (and even more with creep). The only connection is see is Widow mine <====> Reaver but NicolBolas convinced me that it's not that strong of a connection. | ||
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LockeTazeline
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kuroshiro
United Kingdom378 Posts
Just for the sake of throwing opinions out there, I really dislike the swarmhost/BL mechanic of free units for blocking movement and confusing AI. There's no interesting micro to it, you either have enough of them or you don't, and thematically it feels like such an artificial fix to the `swarm'. No chance of losing those units now though I guess, might as well learn to enjoy it ^_^ | ||
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unteqair
United States308 Posts
Edit - Well, actually, if mines are burrowed around siege tanks when they siege up, it could prevent stalkers from blinking on to the siege tank. Also, with battle hellions in the front, it can be harder for zealots to approach. | ||
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HeavenResign
United States702 Posts
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