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Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 13:49:50
July 05 2011 13:48 GMT
#301
i also did a "For the Swarm video"



No "special tactics" used here, just go as fast as possible to trigger a reaction.

I played against a "very easy" AI to focus on the board and not the units

As a reminder, here how to beat the insane AI 1on1

http://www.youtube.com/PiouStarcraft - http://www.facebook.com/pioustarcraft
Tweleve
Profile Joined March 2011
United States644 Posts
July 06 2011 01:43 GMT
#302
I get "For The Swarm" pretty easily when I focus on not breaking a certain color for a long time so a big chunk of the board clears up at the same time and the huge following drops have a chance of doing multiple breaks in a row
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 13:43:11
July 11 2011 12:33 GMT
#303
Is it really mostly luck or skill? Can people consistently beat Insane or do they only record and post the one good match of the many it took to get it done?
LioRawr
Profile Joined May 2011
56 Posts
July 11 2011 13:57 GMT
#304
On July 11 2011 21:33 DrSeRRoD wrote:
Is it really mostly luck or skill? Can people consistently beat Insane or do they only record and post the one good match of the many it took to get it done?


I have beaten the Insane A.I. several times by now, yet it took me a long time to get there and not every attempt now is successful. I'd say that it's a mix from the right tactics & being able to use the gem board in the right way + being lucky enough not to have a too bad board with bad gem combinations. When the AI beats me now, it's mostly a matter of the board, for example when I have to reset it several times.
TwoToedSloth
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1 Post
July 12 2011 05:21 GMT
#305
Ok this is impossible. I can't even beat the medium AI. It doesn't make ANY sense. When I look at the post game data the numbers do not ad up. I have more energy than the AI AND my unit made to units lost is positive. WTF? Does the AI get some phantom units or something?

Also...I don't understand how the AI exceeds cap limits. For instance; I'll be pushing with an ultralisk, colo, and some ghosts and all of a sudden the AI will summon zealots, 2 ultras, and a colo. How are they able to stock pile that much energy?

I've tried some of the strats on here and can't seem to make any headway. I have no idea why not. Maybe my timing is off...
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 20:44:16
July 12 2011 20:38 GMT
#306
On July 05 2011 22:48 Piou wrote:
i also did a "For the Swarm video"

No "special tactics" used here, just go as fast as possible to trigger a reaction.

I played against a "very easy" AI to focus on the board and not the units


I actually found it easier to focus with ai that was around a decent level, while being able to easily be defeated by me should it push too far /medium
2v2 setting worked better too, my strength/weakness was less effective allowed for more leeway
let every chain finish before starting a new one
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
July 12 2011 20:45 GMT
#307
On July 12 2011 14:21 TwoToedSloth wrote:
Ok this is impossible. I can't even beat the medium AI. It doesn't make ANY sense. When I look at the post game data the numbers do not ad up. I have more energy than the AI AND my unit made to units lost is positive. WTF? Does the AI get some phantom units or something?

Also...I don't understand how the AI exceeds cap limits. For instance; I'll be pushing with an ultralisk, colo, and some ghosts and all of a sudden the AI will summon zealots, 2 ultras, and a colo. How are they able to stock pile that much energy?

I've tried some of the strats on here and can't seem to make any headway. I have no idea why not. Maybe my timing is off...


so your losing less units but they were more expensive
show us the replay of the ai spawning that much stuff instantly
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
ugem
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark14 Posts
July 13 2011 08:49 GMT
#308
I am giving u a wery good edvise, just go with the flow !!
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TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
July 14 2011 11:19 GMT
#309
TanksTanksTanks....
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
July 14 2011 14:31 GMT
#310
This is how i did it, i think this is a very good tactic if you are not that fast on laying bricks...

Save alot of points, untill the enemy is at your cannons, then build alot of tanks. The towers and tanks should hold the enemy for a while. Keep massing upp tanks while the enemy is in range of your cannons, and you will eventually start to break through.

This is where you would prefer some luck, when you feel that the enemy is about to get pushed back, stop producing tanks and start massing hydras. Your tanks and hydras should roll over the insane ai.
NaNiwa | Innovation | Flash | DeMuslim ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
IamaGrapeMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada165 Posts
July 15 2011 02:59 GMT
#311
you can get it so that your standard energy rate is 1k every 30 seconds

so by 5 minutes you should have 10k energy
10 minutes 20 k energy etc.
i consider anything over that over quota
Jmmxp
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1 Post
July 21 2011 00:47 GMT
#312
Finally got the achievement! The other tactics didn't work for me but Roach + Hydra got me the achievement =D
kiwi27
Profile Joined July 2011
1 Post
July 21 2011 16:22 GMT
#313
I was searching for some more video's on beating insane AI, when I found this:

HekFaith
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia9 Posts
July 21 2011 19:55 GMT
#314
its wery easy to complete this ... just like a video few posts up

start with collo and then spamm 6 8 roaches and then 5 6 hydras after that just spawn roach hydra roach hydra u should have your first collo till end... i win 6 of 8 with that setup... easily

but at the end its wery based on luck on start for the placements of crystals of what so ever u call them...

dont watch the fight at all... u just leave camera on your base
...
Seviro
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada98 Posts
July 21 2011 22:37 GMT
#315
On July 22 2011 04:55 HekFaith wrote:
its wery easy to complete this ... just like a video few posts up

start with collo and then spamm 6 8 roaches and then 5 6 hydras after that just spawn roach hydra roach hydra u should have your first collo till end... i win 6 of 8 with that setup... easily

but at the end its wery based on luck on start for the placements of crystals of what so ever u call them...

dont watch the fight at all... u just leave camera on your base


Thanks, worked for me, I tried many time to go roach/hydra right after the collo but the best is to get some roach and then start the hydra prod
ZaeZSC
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada15 Posts
July 22 2011 00:12 GMT
#316
after reading this thread I managed to beat very hard first try with the tank/ghost/hydra mix. Got very lucky at the start and put out 10 tanks very quickly. (I failed the first 15 or so times I tried it in the past)

After that I did the insane AI after about 6 or 7 tries. The first 5 tries I tried the tank/ghost and it sucked to be honest. The insane AI seems to always open with immortals or tanks, which quickly kills off the tank opening unless you get very lucky combos. After 1 failed atempt with the muta only strat, I managed to pull it off the second time. It isn't a huge momentum stomp over the AI like the tank push it, it is very back and forth and a longer game, but it was easier and more effective IMO
iMech
Profile Joined July 2011
United States28 Posts
July 24 2011 08:06 GMT
#317
Has anyone else had luck with the mutalisks as in the 1v2 insane video above?
Ultrasonicc
Profile Joined March 2011
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 13:56:34
July 26 2011 12:46 GMT
#318
My god...
I'm after like 50++ tries and nothing.
I'm starting with 2 colo and then tank/hydra/roach and in ~2mins enemy base is on half of health and then every single time computer got huge wave coming i simply can't hold and losing instantly.
I managed few times to hold few moments but didn't even get back to his cannons.
Almost every time i got much more kills and obviously less points...

lols at last i got it!
Eloquious
Profile Joined December 2010
18 Posts
July 28 2011 19:53 GMT
#319
Yes, it is possible to consistently beat the insane AI.

What you want to do is lose the initial battle, use your cannons to tank. Mass roach and when you start pushing back, mass tank. The only thing mass roach loses to is a high colo count (which is impossible) or a high banshee count (which is also impossible).
cypho
Profile Joined December 2009
United States13 Posts
July 28 2011 23:57 GMT
#320
I actually had a lot of trouble with mass tank strategies or pure roach/hydra strategies.

Eventually I melded the two - wait until the enemy hits your cannons and build 3 tanks with the 1k energy you should have built up. Afterwards, build roach/hydra.

The problem I had with pure tank was that if you hit a dry spell then the meatshield for your tanks evaporate and they die extremely quickly. The problem I had with mass roach/hydra was that Collosi and cannons could shred your hydra DPS. Combining the two worked well - I didn't need to use any spells... and with ~1.9k energy per minute, Insane AI didn't stand a chance.
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