On May 25 2011 19:09 {ToT}Strafe wrote: I almost beat insane+hard. I already beat insane+medium.
The trick is to be really fast and to make 1 ultralisk, keep it alive with heal at all times, disable other ultra lisks when they come and get as many hydra as possible, but don't spam too many, because you need energy to cast heal on your ultralisk. The ultra may never fall. Then this way you keep your hydra alive until you reach a critical mass where it just stomps everything.
Beaten against insane+v.hard and could probably beat insane + insane. For me its not really doable playing online, there's far too much delay between matches compared to offline. I didn't really use much of a strategy, just played according to what the AI built.
One thing to note is that whenever the AI pushes back just spam mutas and storm AA units. heal massive units etc. Massing colossus at the start when they're near your cannons is pretty good, stick a tank or two at the back to deal damage to the cannons. And throw some AA in there (I didn't do this.. Probably because I've played a lot of multiplayer and people just rather storm twice then mass AA, not to measure they die in one storm anyway)
Edit: Failed badly after 5min game, they spam all units. t
Oh man, thank you for posting the Colossus/Hydra/Zerg...tried forever with the other strat. It took me about 7 tries, but I finally got it. Whatever you do, don't let up. Comp had a frickin sliver with 2 of my colosus and a small army attacking the main building, came back and beat me. And now, the souls of the tribe are at peace.
- good eye and fast fingers to keep the dough coming - a mix of practice and luck to send a wave of units at the right time and keep pushing.
Basically, you can probably damage one or two cannons to half HP if you deliver a mighty push in the beginning. But then you're likely to get blasted by the AI's counter-offensive. What you want is tanks and tanks hitting stuff from a safe distance. About 5 to 8 tanks are great, then you keep adding enough spacing to prevent the tanks from ever being tackled in melee. Good stuff for this includes ghosts and hydras because you need AA or else banshees or mutas will quickly dispose of the tanks. In fact, a number of times you will lose because you won't be able to save the tanks from air. Apart from the usual stuff, which is tanks getting too much exposure from riding out too much.
Another way is ultras with healing but this is hard to pull off because of the ultras' choice of targets and random (or not so random, as it turns out with some observation) events influencing the outcome of what goes on at or between the enemy cannons. Also, it may be hard or distressing, trying to get some 300 jewels and heal, another 300 jewels and heal and so on. I think tanks are easier.
I don't remember how I did medium and hard but I did very hard with ultras (I think) and insane with tanks.
BTW, not to brag but I can almost keep up with insane AI in terms of energy production now. Wasn't so in the beginning, when keeping up with medium was hard. Practice helps.
A big thanks for the guy who suggested the 2 coloss then roach/hydra push. I tried the tank/ghost/hydra for like 40 times and only once i came close to beating it. I'm not saying is not a viable strat also, but when i tried the coloss build, i nearly made it the first time and then succeded in game 6 or 7. Is definetly a shortcut for the achievement! And btw i used warp cell twice on ultras.
On May 28 2011 06:08 Maskedsatyr wrote: Sigh I suck at this game lol
Yay Finally did it. Won using a modified colo/roach/hydra strat. I realised my matching was not good enough to beat the insane com, their ultras would just own my colo before i could get a decent amount of tanking units so I used to warp cell on every ultra i could see.
I finally got it after over 100 tries. I'm so bad at bejeweled. I got the 2 colossi then spammed hydra roach. You gotta keep matching. Eventually you get lucky, and get a nice combo. As long as you can keep one colossus alive, you'll eventually win. If the colossus died, I would just restart as I don't stand a chance against the insane comp. He had 5k more energy than me by the end.
I tried this soo many times with and without help. I always got totally obliterated, most of the time I didn't even land a single hit on the enemy cannons. Then I saw this post
On June 02 2011 22:45 Piou wrote: I just got it at the first try using 1 colo + mass roach/ idra. I thought for a moment that i was playing against a easy computer ^^
So gather energy to get 1000 and spend it on 1 colo + spam A and W.
Then continue making lines and just spam A+W in fact...
i ended up with my 1st colo still alive and loads of idra/roach
Now I got it on the first try with that. I just got full 1000 energy, one colossus and then spammed A and W. Easymode. I pushed to the very end, destroyed all cannons and my push got repelled and everything died. Then I just started again, 1 colossus and A+W spam. Then after a few moments I won it. THANK YOU Piou, thank you so very very much!
I gotta say most strats given here are completely worthless. Tried a million times and I can almost match insane in energy. Then I tried the collosus, roach & hydra mix 2 times.
Halfway into the game(~3 minutes) my collosus is dead AI has THREE collosus I don't know this and am happily matching and spamming AW not even trying to get one of each. Then boom I win. So if you have trouble with this achieve just spam AW and match as fast as you can. My longest chain was 3 and I have failed getting for the swarm with the other strats....
On June 06 2011 22:09 BlueOrange wrote: I tried this soo many times with and without help. I always got totally obliterated, most of the time I didn't even land a single hit on the enemy cannons. Then I saw this post
On June 02 2011 22:45 Piou wrote: I just got it at the first try using 1 colo + mass roach/ idra. I thought for a moment that i was playing against a easy computer ^^
So gather energy to get 1000 and spend it on 1 colo + spam A and W.
Then continue making lines and just spam A+W in fact...
i ended up with my 1st colo still alive and loads of idra/roach
Now I got it on the first try with that. I just got full 1000 energy, one colossus and then spammed A and W. Easymode. I pushed to the very end, destroyed all cannons and my push got repelled and everything died. Then I just started again, 1 colossus and A+W spam. Then after a few moments I won it. THANK YOU Piou, thank you so very very much!
Well, to thank me, you can subscribe to my youtube channel, that would help me :D
Im having a lot of trouble beating Insane AI even using all of the strategies posted here. I came close using the one colossus hydra/roach build, but then they pushed me back and I couldnt recover.
On June 09 2011 01:19 iNCuBuS_ wrote: Im having a lot of trouble beating Insane AI even using all of the strategies posted here. I came close using the one colossus hydra/roach build, but then they pushed me back and I couldnt recover.
that's because people fail to realize that its not about winning with strategy, but just about being fucking good at bejeweled. once your fast enough, you can make a whole bunch of shit and just win.
On June 09 2011 01:19 iNCuBuS_ wrote: Im having a lot of trouble beating Insane AI even using all of the strategies posted here. I came close using the one colossus hydra/roach build, but then they pushed me back and I couldnt recover.
you've got to work on your speed, try against easy AI and just go as fast as possible, you shouldn't really look at the left side of the screen, just focus on your combos. On my video posted earlier, i don't even go at full speed, if you can at leaste match that, then you'll be fine.
don't use storms, they are way to expensive and don't deal enough damage and basicly, if the enemies are in a huge group at your canon, you're already f***** so start again.
wait till the first ennemy marines arrive to your 1st canon to release the colossus. The marines will focus the canon and the colossus will clean them easily, by the time they are cleaned, you should have enough roach/hydras tu creat a wall of protection for your colossus. The colossus will shoot at a distance and will deal spash damage will the wall protects it from air and land attacks.
you don't really need more than 1 colossus tbh, if your wall if big enough, it will stop everything and a second colossus will be useless.
"maybe", if you see 1 or 2 ultras attacking the wall, you can use the blocking spell but the ultra should die quite quickly without it anyway
On June 09 2011 01:19 iNCuBuS_ wrote: Im having a lot of trouble beating Insane AI even using all of the strategies posted here. I came close using the one colossus hydra/roach build, but then they pushed me back and I couldnt recover.
you've got to work on your speed, try against easy AI and just go as fast as possible, you shouldn't really look at the left side of the screen, just focus on your combos. On my video posted earlier, i don't even go at full speed, if you can at leaste match that, then you'll be fine.
don't use storms, they are way to expensive and don't deal enough damage and basicly, if the enemies are in a huge group at your canon, you're already f***** so start again.
wait till the first ennemy marines arrive to your 1st canon to release the colossus. The marines will focus the canon and the colossus will clean them easily, by the time they are cleaned, you should have enough roach/hydras tu creat a wall of protection for your colossus. The colossus will shoot at a distance and will deal spash damage will the wall protects it from air and land attacks.
you don't really need more than 1 colossus tbh, if your wall if big enough, it will stop everything and a second colossus will be useless.
"maybe", if you see 1 or 2 ultras attacking the wall, you can use the blocking spell but the ultra should die quite quickly without it anyway
Alright, Ill keep plugging away at it. I feel like part of it is luck - I love bejeweled and do go fast, its just sometimes I dont get a lot of moves, but eventually Ill get it. Thanks for the further tips
It might help to understand why this works... The reason why collosus/roach/hydra works is because of the way your brain works. Lemme explain.... in a normal starjeweled match you are doing many things at once, you are trying to match gems, scrolling the screen up and down to watch the battle, seeing which units the opponent is making, seing which units you are going to make, deciding wether to use units or spells, and if you haven't played long enough, you also have to learn your hotkeys.... and well the brain is just not good at multitasking... of course this is the way the game was designed and if you play long enough and you enjoy the challenge you will get faster and faster until you become skilled enough to beat it normally... so this strat is sort of a shortcut because it more or less automates everything except matching jewels, which "frees" your brain to focus on only that course, removing the multitasking component of the game almost completely.
First it automates crowd control with the two collosus at the beginning, then it automates the decision making of what to produce or which spells to cast by already knowing the right combination of units to spawn and of course it removes hotkey memorization.. (just 2, roaches are the meatshield that protect collosus and hydras the anti air).
If you want to get the achievement quickly and easily use this strat but if you actually want to learn how to play the game and a challenge I don't recommend it.
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