Just finished this with the advice from a previous video: got to 900 energy and spawned one colossus and hydra roach. For some reason, the game just clicked too. I hit my first For the Swarm achievement, and at the end I actually had more energy than my insane ai opponent accumulated. Normally I'm at about 1.3k/minute, but I won this in 3ish minutes with 5.7k.
I would say it was an overwhelming victory, and that you wouldn't have to hit the energy/minute that I did to win. The game before I was much lower and still managed to take down his outer two cannons before hitting a slump on my board.
I managed to lose a 8 minute 2.2k energy/minute game going 1 colossus backed by hydra/roach all the time... sigh. Was so happy I was destroying the board and it still didn't work out. Before that had about 10-15 games of 1.6-2k epm and lost them all. I finally won one..... 3 minutes total 4k energy. Got the first 2k or so in the first minute I guess, 3 ultra 2 immortal, reinforce with one more ultra and the rest of my little energy on heal. Felt stupid afterwards, I just had luck that the AI didn't build banshees or whatever.
On September 13 2011 01:31 Incandenza wrote: Just finished this with the advice from a previous video: got to 900 energy and spawned one colossus and hydra roach. For some reason, the game just clicked too. I hit my first For the Swarm achievement, and at the end I actually had more energy than my insane ai opponent accumulated. Normally I'm at about 1.3k/minute, but I won this in 3ish minutes with 5.7k.
I would say it was an overwhelming victory, and that you wouldn't have to hit the energy/minute that I did to win. The game before I was much lower and still managed to take down his outer two cannons before hitting a slump on my board.
true just save energy for 1 colossus then just spam hydra roach, you should defeat the AI around 6k points
I found ultra + immortal to be the answer, the ultras walk past the cannons so i keep it alive with healing wave while the immortal + marines takes out the cannons.
I got pwned by air a few times - but its really fun watching the ultras chew through the whole map. Here is the strategy:
@1000 2 ultras 1 immortal save up for healing wave if 1 ultra drops, then forget the other and save up for 2 more instead. Rince and repeat..... edit: when you have extra minerals and ultras on the map then get some immortals. should enemy get air then storm.
one note: whatever strat you end up using just keep matching crystals, nothing is more important than that.
And yes i got lucky and ended up having 3 ultras and 2 immortals thanks to some combos and completely smashed the insane AI after nearly 100 tries of this strat and another 40 tries of different strats
This annoys me as I beat the insane ai when I was playing in single player custom but didn't get the achievement cause wasn't in multiplayer custom (didn't realise at the time ) and now due to lag when playing in multi can't get it again, frustrating!!!
I can't even beat a hard computer It took me like 20 tries to beat medium. I think I'm just going to have to accept the fact that I suck at StarJeweled T_T
Every unit combination I try gets crushed. If I do the tank/ghost combo, the AI just sends immortals and the tanks get wiped out.
I just beat 2 insane computers at bejeweled, by making only hydra/ultra. Basically you disable every ultra that comes up(cuz it rapes your ultra) and you need to gain a critical swell of hydras(when they cover the entire width of the map). The way to reach that mass is to keep your ultra alive by spamming heal on it. After you get the critical hydra mass you can add another ultra and use the time cell, to slow incoming dmg 50%. Easy game brah!. Always leave enough energy for a heal and disable when you are adding on hydras. Gl
I'd just like to say for most of you out there... No, it's not easy. Strafe got lucky just as anyone else who has achieved this has gotten... It may have been marginally easier for him because he has good multitask or more importantly because he is a secret bejeweled fan. You cannot win unless: A) You're already above average at starjeweled. B) You have to get a lucky tileset.
So basically as someone who has also gotten this challenge I will say don't go into it blindly thinking: "Oh, I just do xyz then I win this challenge"... it's more like "I need a really good tileset to go apeshit with and steamroll the computer."
I think the method strafe recommends will be hard to execute for people who are less than ~high diamond generally because it requires too much multitask...
My recommendation is to mass out some games where you let your eyes 'defocus' and you try to let your mind start playing subconsciously if that makes sense to some of you and force yourself to move at 2x the speed... the first couple games you'll fuck up maybe but this forced uncomfort will become comfort and you'll have the speed you need to complete the challenge.
After your speed is good, then it's hitting the correct random arrangement that goes absolutely bonkers... FOR THE SWARM. When you get that good 'board' you need to have the speed to execute it and the ideas of how you can make it happen. This thread has multiple good 'plans' but I see very little in 'conditioning to make it happen when you get the right board'.
So in summary, the plans in this thread work, but you must be lucky in the board you're given and you must have enough bejeweled speed to CRANK THEM TILES.
Starjewld is such an awesome custom, but i think Blizzard should not offer achivements for these games, it just seems strange that you get the same number of point for playing a ripoff of bejewled and for winning 1k 1v1 with each race.
This worked for me on the first try; Wait till 1000 and go double colossi and then spam Roach & Hydra. I was kinda surprised how it went that easily since Ive tried loads of other tactics with no luck.. I encourage anyone having trouble trying this one.
^ I'm going to have to try that. That video gives me hope, because he seems to be about as fast at matching sets as I am, so it proves that I can still do it. I noticed he only has one Colossus, and you said to go double. Did you try it both ways and find success with two?
So I got on, and 2nd try I beat the hard AI with 2 colossi and roach/hydra, and on my first try I beat very hard with the same combo. Prior to that, I've been stuck on hard for days with no results. Going to try Insane now :D
Just beat insane :D Took me a lot of tries, but I managed to beat hard, very hard, and insane all today with two colossi, roaches, and hydras. Not to mention a little bit of luck.
Just to say that I just beat insane using the above video method. 1 colossus and just a bunch of roaches and hydras. It took about 10 tries and ofc some luck. It took 3:05 minutes!
On September 21 2011 12:23 zug0 wrote: Just to say that I just beat insane using the above video method. 1 colossus and just a bunch of roaches and hydras. It took about 10 tries and ofc some luck. It took 3:05 minutes!
I had to use two, I could never get away with using one, but that could just be my ability with this game.
I imagine the one colossus is all you need as it cuts through marines in one shot. Two just delays your bunker of hydra roach, delaying your push, and letting the comp get out some stupid wave of units that will break you at the cannons.
EPT
) and now due to lag when playing in multi can't get it again, frustrating!!!
