[D] Blizzard Banning for Single Player Cheats - Page 7

On October 12 2010 05:48 Half wrote:
Then why did you respond LOL.

On October 12 2010 05:48 Half wrote:


You realized I was responding to someone who was comparing the same to vigilante serial killers right?

On October 12 2010 04:23 Half wrote:
Recently, Blizzard has banned several community members for using third party cheats in single player games and custom games versus AI.

The cheats being used were not the maphacks or drophacks we're accustomed to in multiplayer games, but rather, "Trainers", local game hacks used to manipulate local, offline, play. These work in single player, but not in multiplayer, because single player games are entirely local, and only upload critical achievement and completion data onto multiplayer.

In practice, the work functionally identical to exploiting in game single player exploits, or the use of blizzard sanctioned cheat codes.

The same report was also confirmed in the Rock Paper Shotgun gaming blog



The end result is that the several hundreds of people received account bans for cheating in Starcraft 2's single player component, without any prior warning that this would occur.

In reality, this entails blizzard will ban for any modifications or programs that interfere with the game, regardless of the effect, and that they have complete administrative control over your Starcraft 2 account. It also implies that programs such as warden will be running, regardless of your format of play.

Thoughts?

(Original reported by Cheathappens.com. They don't host maphacks or any competitive hack, only single player trainers, which have traditionally never been the subject of controversy)

On October 12 2010 05:54 BulldogBCN wrote:


i didn't, actually, so i guess i must apologize.

it doesn't make your analogy less ridiculous, though, i hope you realize that.

Please stop, this is the SC2 general forum.

On October 12 2010 05:46 Half wrote:


Where? I haven't seen a single bit of legal defense for this move more complex then "The TOS said so duuuddee".

On October 12 2010 05:57 vica wrote:


It's Blizzard's game. They specified all of the rules within the terms of service, which you signed and agreed to abide by, when you activated your account. If you violate these rules, they can do whatever they want to your account about it.

So ask, did you violate these rules? You modified Blizzard files you agreed not to. Thus, they removed you from the game.

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"The TOS said so duuuddee".

On October 12 2010 05:59 Half wrote:


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On October 12 2010 06:02 PokePill wrote:
Nice sensationalist original post. They are 14 day bans. You are completely invalidating their service by farming achievements, it's no different than anything else they ban you for, there is no gray line at all, you are cheating.

On October 12 2010 05:59 Half wrote:


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If you feel that response is inadequate the reread the thread, you're not making any new or relevant points here, so you can just mill over whats been said already.

On October 12 2010 05:57 Half wrote:


What? I wasn't even making an analogy lol. Its called an example. Specifically why you need to stop confusing corporate policy with legal policy.

On October 12 2010 06:05 BulldogBCN wrote:


you trivialized corporate crime by comparing it to blizzard banning cheaters. i don't care what you want to call it, it is what it is.

On October 12 2010 06:02 stevensegal wrote:
I don't use any trainers or cheats and I never have gotten banned

On October 12 2010 04:23 Half wrote:
Recently, Blizzard has banned several community members for using third party cheats in single player games and custom games versus AI.
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These work in single player... upload critical achievement and completion data onto multiplayer.
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On October 12 2010 06:05 fireb0rn wrote:
Why, when something like this happens, do people automatically jump and say "it's in the EULA, so it's fine"? We KNOW that it is legal for Blizzard to do this. The only question is whether it is just/reasonable for them to do it. The fact that people are undermining the achievement system is a problem, but the punishment is clearly not proportionate to the crime. If the problem is that they are getting achievement points they don't deserve, why would you not just disable achievements on their account? Why would you ban someone for something--using trainers, hacks in SP--that is acceptable in 100% of other games? It's ridiculous. Either method of punishment (disabling points / banning) works perfectly as a deterrent/punishment, but I suppose only one potentially makes Blizzard more money, so I guess their reasoning is pretty self-explanatory...