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Teeny
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria885 Posts
August 23 2010 06:19 GMT
#21
I really like this idea very much. I did such things only in Final Fantasys. But i really think this will be very very challanging and maybe even impossible.
But don´t give up maybe you find some ways
JoshRulz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia16 Posts
August 23 2010 06:49 GMT
#22
Will you be using mercs other then the war pigs that are already unlocked?

im doing the no upgrades run too but i cant decide whether to use mercs or not
JoshRulz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia16 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 06:58:48
August 23 2010 06:58 GMT
#23
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 09:03:03
August 23 2010 09:01 GMT
#24
Are you going to use mercs, besides the war pigs? I would imagine they should also be off limits.

I personally did the campaign with no ups until I went to Char, just because I couldn't decide what to spend money on, the only mission I see trouble with is the All-in, but it's still probably doable.
Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
August 23 2010 09:44 GMT
#25
I've done it all the way to supernova/engine of destruction atm without upgrades/research/mercs. not really that hard, got to reload a couple of times due to me being stupid. I do imagine though that all-in might get tricky without either tank splash, psi-disruptor or planetary fortress. Think it should be doable though, it will probably be all about good artifact uses. One can watch it (the sound is kind of unbearable though, put my mic on the computer fan = bad idea) on my livestream channels on demand section. http://www.livestream.com/zinbiel?t=916677 WARNING: I did watch some of the campaign story-parts etc so one should probably fast forward some parts.
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 12:28:58
August 23 2010 10:41 GMT
#26
can't be done but good luck in your quest.
the most difficulty will come with the last protoss mission and ALLIN
ChaosKnight
Profile Joined April 2007
United States819 Posts
August 23 2010 11:47 GMT
#27
I think that if you at least had siege mode, this would be possible. But without that... oh man. Waiting for every Artifact nova recharge will feel like centuries.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4000 Posts
August 23 2010 12:25 GMT
#28
You'll get siege mode, right? Just not the extra damage and friendly splash reduction.
Nenyim
Profile Joined April 2010
France110 Posts
August 23 2010 13:16 GMT
#29
you get them with "the dig" i think so i don't see why he wouldn't use it. Doing all missions en brutal with marines/medic would be a bit hard.
nemanja1503
Profile Joined July 2010
Serbia49 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 13:43:35
August 23 2010 13:40 GMT
#30
On August 23 2010 15:07 SnowJob wrote:
It hurts trying to imagine playing brutal All In without siege tank upgrades, mules, gas boost, +15% attack speed, tech reactors, double SCV repair, building damage control, planetary fortresses, most of the mercs or even any bunker upgrades. You do get to use the artifact as often as possible, though, and that's worth a lot.

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And should I do all missions as they are made to do or though some sort of shortcut (Like the 4 minute Echoes of the Future mission)?


You can just about skip the Zeratul line. Upgrades can't go into those missions and you won't be taking anything out of them, so it's the same as normally playing the levels on Brutal. IMO you should be willing to compromise secondary objectives if it gets too hard.


What do you mean he won't have access to all of the mercs?


EDIT: Nvm I read that some consider hiring mecs to be cheating, imo it isn't and he will need that edge for All In.
baconbits
Profile Joined April 2010
United States419 Posts
August 23 2010 14:15 GMT
#31
On August 23 2010 19:41 chrisSquire wrote:
can't be done but good luck in your quest.
the most difficulty will come with the last protoss mission and ALLIN



how do upgrades, mercs and research effect the Protoss mission? (its no different)

All In however... is going to be really hard with either ground or air version, probably be easier with air version since you can atleast reactor marine/vikings...
Zades
Profile Joined April 2010
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 23:49:05
August 23 2010 15:37 GMT
#32
I will try to do of without merc but if it comes to it I might use them. As for siege tanks siege mode is not an upgrade. They come with the siege tanks.

Ok bad news, my HDD that was holding my recorded data broke. The only important recordings were probapoly only Smash and Grab and Evacuation which I will redo it at a later date (they are relatively easy to do even without upgrades)

Ok change of plans I will redo 3-5
Zades
Profile Joined April 2010
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 04:42:40
August 24 2010 04:35 GMT
#33
UPDATE:

I redid missions 3-5

Mission 2 is currently uploading and should be done in an hour (slow ass upload speed).

I'll show you some pics (yes I took them during the merging/compressing process on Virtual Dub)

Anyone here got past 150supply on this mission? Highest I've gotten to before doing it for the NUR challege was 120-130ish.
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Again highest supply count I've seen though I got supply blocked 99/99
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I'll be giving my mission 3-5 to my friend to upload tomorrow, he has a faster upload time than me. I'll see how far I can today.
teekesselchen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany886 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 04:51:36
August 24 2010 04:48 GMT
#34
Apart from last mission, I don't see very big issues with that actually. I often used the units that were newly introduced in each mission and hence didn't have any upgrades yet. Missions like Shatter the Sky or Maw of the Void also were quite easy with Battlecruisers without upgrades. The Rebellion Missions often play like ordinary TvT, just go mass Tank/Viking
I think especially any kind of Mech or Air play is quite easy without upgrades. Bio might be a bit harder, I heard many people heavily relied on playing bio ball and that's certainly hard without stimpak and medic upgrade.
When they were introduced, he made a witticism, hoping to be liked. She laughed extremely hard, hoping to be liked. Then each drove home alone, staring straight ahead, with the very same twist to their faces.
monad
Profile Joined March 2010
United States156 Posts
August 24 2010 17:23 GMT
#35
All you need for Shatter the Sky are mass cloaked banshees. With about 15 cloaked banshees you can rush them into the reactor fast enough that they can take it down and you can still escape with a fair number. You can completely skip Leviathan this way also. I did the whole mission in about 18 minutes by just rushing banshees to each reactor.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 24 2010 22:13 GMT
#36
Masochist mode?
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
sl0w
Profile Joined July 2010
United States447 Posts
August 24 2010 23:07 GMT
#37
wow sounds ambitious. best of luck!
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
August 24 2010 23:14 GMT
#38
On August 23 2010 19:41 chrisSquire wrote:
can't be done but good luck in your quest.
the most difficulty will come with the last protoss mission and ALLIN

The last protoss mission is really easy, and it isnt affected at all by terran upgrades so I dont know what you are talking about.
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
August 25 2010 07:02 GMT
#39
perhaps hes talking about the secret mission which did have a zerg/protoss hybird.

i m not sure marine/medic upgrades carry into this mission. if it did, then it means doing it on NUR will only leave you with 45 hp marines and slow medic healing. which could make it ridiculously hard.
...from the land of imba
Jyxz
Profile Joined November 2009
United States117 Posts
August 25 2010 09:03 GMT
#40
I was thinking about doing this myself, seems like it would be ridiculous tho... I think if you go nydus worms for all in its possible tho... i dont see you being able to deal with the air without Mind control or viking splash tho... GOOD LUCK
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