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Juvator
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands199 Posts
August 01 2010 16:32 GMT
#61
one of the objectives is destroy the loki, but what is it ? andwhere is it ? I thought I cleaned it all out. a bit off topic but I can't find the answer anywhere
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Doomgaze
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden89 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 16:37:07
August 01 2010 16:36 GMT
#62
^
The loki is in the top right corner of the eastern most base. It activates when one of your ground units make contact with it. Be aware, it packs a punch
Juvator
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands199 Posts
August 01 2010 17:29 GMT
#63
allright i'll check it out thanks
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Nuttyguy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom1526 Posts
August 03 2010 12:52 GMT
#64
im just stuck on this mission, you cant snipe out the ravens since they are so far inside the base and there are bunkers
i dont have science vessels? im guessing they are the medivacs from the upgrades which i didnt choose.
marines get owned by hunter missiles and siege tanks and bunkers and vultures
wraiths cant even snipe a raven fast enough before they take too much dmg and end up dying
their tanks destroy the scv's repairing it
so far ive tried mass wraiths, marines and medics with some tanks
any suggestions?
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4938 Posts
August 03 2010 13:01 GMT
#65
Do the Zeratul vision missions first, I had 25/25 in both P/Z research by the time I got to this mission on the 2nd playthrough, OC / tech reactor / auto refinery makes it significantly easier. Oh, and the proper upgrades from 'the' Armory (and armory, as in ship weapons / plating) ofc. I just massed tank / wraith, held like 3-4 tanks at my base to defend from everything, escorted the Odin with like 8 tanks and a bunch of wraiths...obviously I lost some units due to sloppy control / mistakes in multitasking, but the hardest part was to keep sending new SCVs to repair the Odin when they inevitably got raped by the AI's siege tank fire.

It's also a good idea to pre-emptively build a new CC near the 2nd base, it won't ever get attacked so you can safely expand there and boost your economy for the harder bases.
Complete the cycle!
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
August 03 2010 21:15 GMT
#66
On August 03 2010 22:01 Naib wrote:
Do the Zeratul vision missions first, I had 25/25 in both P/Z research by the time I got to this mission on the 2nd playthrough, OC / tech reactor / auto refinery makes it significantly easier. Oh, and the proper upgrades from 'the' Armory (and armory, as in ship weapons / plating) ofc. I just massed tank / wraith, held like 3-4 tanks at my base to defend from everything, escorted the Odin with like 8 tanks and a bunch of wraiths...obviously I lost some units due to sloppy control / mistakes in multitasking, but the hardest part was to keep sending new SCVs to repair the Odin when they inevitably got raped by the AI's siege tank fire.

It's also a good idea to pre-emptively build a new CC near the 2nd base, it won't ever get attacked so you can safely expand there and boost your economy for the harder bases.

did u play it on brutal? cause when i expanded, i did get attacked. although i upgraded it to PF so i was fine.

but yes, doing the protoss mission with 25/25 research upgrades help alot. banshee viking is the ez win method.
...from the land of imba
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
August 03 2010 21:18 GMT
#67
i find 11 range vikings obliterate ravens and bcs before they cause any trouble at all. Run that with any decent ground army +medics/scvs to keep your Odin up, this mission wasn't even that hard =P. I even two shot the loki before taking on the 4th base.
Drkie
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7 Posts
August 04 2010 15:39 GMT
#68
sigh they keep focusing on my scv the second they get to the odin to repair its annoying >.<
Nyaa~
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 04 2010 15:41 GMT
#69
I was having trouble with this mission on Brutal so I left it until I had Vikings, Banshees, and Sci Vessels. Spam those, and you should have no problem roflstomping. Even Loki went down in a blaze of Viking fire in 2 seconds.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
August 06 2010 00:08 GMT
#70
This mission didnt seem that hard to me (even though I suck.) I just built 1 bunker outside of each entrance and put 1 elite tank outside of each, and basically ONLY massed wraiths (+ 4 science vessels). Focus on sniping heavy damage dealers (thanks mainly obv.) have the 4 science vesses on follow on odin and obviously bring scvs to repair, send like 1-3 at a time and have a few more waiting behind when the first ones get killed. One thing i think helped me was dont help him/help him kill the base unless you have to. Just snipe tanks so he doesnt die and let him use as long time as possible on each base, to give you time to build army before he gets to the later bases. Also obv take top expansion as soon as possible.
Wat
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
August 06 2010 00:23 GMT
#71
After the first base is destroyed just block the Odins path with a bunch of barracks, and then macro up while it is stuck. Then mass Viking+Banshee+Science Vessels makes the mission really easy.
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
August 06 2010 02:42 GMT
#72
mass banshee and vessels made my life so much easier. (and enough viking for the bcs) dont bother scv repairing, they snipe them down so fast. Especially with banshee upgrades.

Defending the base isnt that hard, a cpl tanks and maybe a bunker usually holds off most terran attacks. Worst case you fly your bansheesback .This is convenient since they generally only attack when odin is resting.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
August 06 2010 03:22 GMT
#73
Like a lot of missions at this stage of the game, that was VERY easy using mass banshees/vikings/vessels...

If you don't have those I don't really know But this trio of units is very very strong for a lot of missions !
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
blah604
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada36 Posts
August 06 2010 22:14 GMT
#74
okay so barrack cna block odin but not supply depots lol... how many barrack to block him btw im on brutal
blah604
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada36 Posts
August 06 2010 22:57 GMT
#75
wow... i can't barely move up... i'm when i try to move bases i get flanked x.x...
Chaoz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States507 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 22:10:16
August 07 2010 19:27 GMT
#76
I tried this mission when I first received it and it was impossible for me so I just put it off. I unlocked the banshee, viking, and science vessel then it became super easy when I massed them.
SwiftBunny
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada134 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 22:09:39
August 07 2010 22:05 GMT
#77
I'm having issues doing this quest, I was doing all brutal, then decided to do this on hard and continue doing all the other missions and try come back and do this later but when I try this on brutal I can only make wraiths, I don't have any advance tech, so My options are siege tank, diamondbacks, vultures, goliaths, and bio...

Am I screwed and have to make another campaign and not do this quest until I have everything else? I have unlocked all the advanced technology currently... but none shows up

Or is there some way to undo this quest?

I tried going all siege tank and floating buildings for vision, I come out with 12~ siege tanks but 3rd base always destroys my force..
Stuff
marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
August 08 2010 00:17 GMT
#78
You can do it with mass wraiths, that's how I did it - I had marines/mercs guarding my base with a bunker at each entrance. The key is to make sure you macro up hardcore while odin kills the first base by himself so you can mass wraths hardcore for the later parts. Use cloak after you eliminate ravens, and make sure u dont get hit by seeker missile
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
August 08 2010 02:56 GMT
#79
easiest solution for me was waiting with it till you get banshees and then just do a mass air force (had vessels too).

makes it much easier since

- there is not that much/strong antiair
- no dangerous tank fire (seeker missile can easily be avoided)
- focus tanks so your repair scvs dont instaexplode from splash
- you can easily fly over to your base and defend any later attacks
- loki is ez&fast



overall tips:

first base can be done just with the 4 wraiths invis. there is no detection. so you have some time to tech/buildup
expand asap once you killed the 2nd base.
never stop scv production. youll need a ton of those guys if you dont have a huge force to clear the bases before he gets attacked.

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Tiorda
Profile Joined May 2010
United States91 Posts
August 08 2010 06:10 GMT
#80
I found this mission quite easy. Defend your main with only 2 tanks and a Bunker with scv's to repair. Mass Vikings and banshees and have them set to follow the Odin. Get an armory as soon as you can afford to and upgrade Air Weapons continuosly. If you teched to Science Vessels get 3-5 and have them escort the odin, if not get about 6 SCV's in a control group to repair when things are safe, or move them in to repair even if it's not safe. Lead the odin with your Banshee's targeting Tanks->Diamondbacks->Anything in that order. With the Vikings on follow they will outrange any Air Units (including BC's) that try to attack the Odin.

I got a second Starport the second the mission started and also got Merc Vikings as soon as I could afford to. I did NOT expand. Just micro your banshees a bit when they're near Viking's or Turrets, if they're near viking's pull them back to your Vikings. I ended the Mission with about 18 Vikings, 5 Sceice Vessels and 12 Banshee's.
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