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On August 06 2009 12:27 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2009 13:42 psion0011 wrote:On August 04 2009 06:24 Cheerio wrote:5 weeks into training: not a single missed workout and +3-3,5 kg of weight (muscle I hope  . Still too scinny at 60 kg and 178 sm. GL to all you guys reaching your goals: fitness is definately worth it. Yeah it's almost kind of disgusting how fit someone can look just by going to the gym 3 times a week, 1-1.5 hours each time. You can easily look as good as Michael Phelps, a serious athlete who trains for like 8 hours a day. Not really... I mean most of weight changes are nutrition related. If you're overweight or underweight it's fairly easy to fix. Then if you add weight training the body composition you can get as a beginner is amazing. After 3-5 workouts of an hour or so... anymore than that is really just along the lines of diminishing returns so for most people not worth it.
Yeah but just getting to a point where diet can take you isn't very good.
I'm talking about looking good, not looking thin. If you're an athlete then you don't need to weight train (though you probably do anyways), but weight training can make anybody look like an athlete without the time commitment. It's almost like cheating
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There should be a goals thread, like instead of how much weight u gain/lost, the goals will be actual performance in your sport. I want to talk to ppl about oly lifting but nobody does it here 
For example, I started my first oly weightlifting routine in mid May. Now its august and so far my pb are
snatch=78kg<---Probably the hardest lift ever, my form isnt very consistent
cln&jrk=95kg <---I have lots of problems with jerk, not enough push from legs most of the time.Also i dont control the weight well when i hit it too.
squat=150kg<---felt like i could do a little more too.
From oly lifting i feel like my back and core are strengthened a lot. I can do hanging leg raises at a pretty controlled form and my pull ups are finally decent. I still need to get my back a lot stronger though. My pulls are still very weak I think.
Goals for next summer i guess
snatch- 90kg
cln&jrk-115kg
squat- 170kg (one day 200kg )
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Wow that's really good, and so short time period too. How much do you weigh?
I started learning oly lifting near the end of last term but couldn't do anything this summer. My new gym sucks (no bumper plates no chalk no dropping weights), but I'm going back to school in september. I only learned up to cleans though. Not explosive enough yet
Also, who taught you? U of Waterloo has like 4 or 5 regular oly lifters so I'm pretty lucky in that sense, but I've never seen anyone do it at any other gym so it's hard for most people to even learn it.
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i finally got to do some oly lifting in my old high school gym for the first time in a while. could only clean 245 lbs but i was pretty tired but wish i could do it more often. my normal gym sucks ~~ no dead lifts/rows/squats/anything good for you T_T
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On August 06 2009 13:06 decafchicken wrote:
my normal gym sucks ~~ no dead lifts/rows/squats/anything good for you T_T
How can they be classified as a gym. That is total horse shit.
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On August 06 2009 12:55 psion0011 wrote:Wow that's really good, and so short time period too. How much do you weigh? I started learning oly lifting near the end of last term but couldn't do anything this summer. My new gym sucks (no bumper plates no chalk no dropping weights), but I'm going back to school in september. I only learned up to cleans though. Not explosive enough yet Also, who taught you? U of Waterloo has like 4 or 5 regular oly lifters so I'm pretty lucky in that sense, but I've never seen anyone do it at any other gym so it's hard for most people to even learn it.
i weight 68kg, i started learning at my uni in feburary but i did it once a week just to practice. Started doing a workout with it this summer at a weightlifting club. Theres a coach there to help and hes really nice. There are some pretty good lifters at the gym i go to. One guy warmed up squats with 70 then 120 then 170 O_O. His workout was in the 220-240ish range. He was about my size too, he looked heavier than me, might be 77kg.
I had prior strength training so I can handle the weights mostly because of my legs. Usually there are coaches where oly lifters lift. They will help you and the lifters help too
for cleans and snatches, explosive shrug is very important!! Its what im weak at ((
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On August 06 2009 13:30 Hurricane wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 13:06 decafchicken wrote:
my normal gym sucks ~~ no dead lifts/rows/squats/anything good for you T_T How can they be classified as a gym. That is total horse shit.
Heh yeah i hate it. Squat is sitting in the attic of the gym gathering dust
But while i was at my old hs a kid there a year below me (hes 17) weighs 155 and squatted 340 lbs for 10 reps O.O i was like what the fuck, apparantly he maxes out at 450, idk how he's 50 pounds less than me and squats 70 pounds more. T_T
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holy shit... I'm 165 and I used to squat like 275... 450 is unbelievable!
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Durza
Age: 15 Height: 5"9'
Current Weight: 225
Goal Weight: 200
Starting Date: August 6th (going to the gym today!)
Goal Date: I'm really not sure, I've really never been able to commit my self to any sort of dieting program so I don't know the rate at which I can lose weight. I would hope to be able to do it within a year but as I said I don't know if I am being over ambitious.
I just stumbled on to this program today as I am new to the site and it is a neat idea. I have always had problems with motivation and I hope I can overcome those.
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
I'm really ashamed by how much weight I've gained recently so I'm not going to post the numbers here (plus one of my students called me fat today -____-) My mum suggested I lose about 1 stone/14 pounds, but I'm kind of clueless about where to start cutting back in my diet (aside from the obvious avoidance of junk food,soda and fried food etc.)
I've pretty much entirely (but am making sure I don't eat at all from now on.)
Takeaway food.
Ice cream.
Soda. (Substituted with water and green/herbal teas.)
Fried foods.
Chocolate/cake/candies and all other desserts.
White rice/white bread/pasta/noodles.
Cheese (hard and cream.)
I have trouble exercising because of two factors - my job (teaching little kids English.) is really mentally draining and also the bone structure in my chest is weird so certain things push on my windpipe and mean that I can't run for more than a few minutes without feeling like I want to keel over. I was thinking of starting with progressively longer walks. + Show Spoiler +I'm ashamed to go to a gym here in Korea because I feel like enough of a freak as it is.
So does anyone have any suggestions as to what to prioritise when dieting? I love all vegetables and fruits, but I'm not sure which ones are the most beneficial etc. Also does anyone know which foods are beneficial for your skin? I suffer from blemishes and look a bit like a vampire most of the time with no natural color.
*Hides*
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On August 06 2009 14:22 NeverGG wrote:I'm really ashamed by how much weight I've gained recently so I'm not going to post the numbers here (plus one of my students called me fat today -____-) My mum suggested I lose about 1 stone/14 pounds, but I'm kind of clueless about where to start cutting back in my diet (aside from the obvious avoidance of junk food,soda and fried food etc.) I've pretty much entirely (but am making sure I don't eat at all from now on.) Takeaway food. Ice cream. Soda. (Substituted with water and green/herbal teas.) Fried foods. Chocolate/cake/candies and all other desserts. White rice/white bread/pasta/noodles. Cheese (hard and cream.) I have trouble exercising because of two factors - my job (teaching little kids English.) is really mentally draining and also the bone structure in my chest is weird so certain things push on my windpipe and mean that I can't run for more than a few minutes without feeling like I want to keel over. I was thinking of starting with progressively longer walks. + Show Spoiler +I'm ashamed to go to a gym here in Korea because I feel like enough of a freak as it is. I also have access to a large roof garden at night where I could potentially do some form of work out. Any suggestions are really welcomed. Most of the weight has gone to my stomach (which used to be flat.) and my thighs/bum. (Plus a little bit to my arms.) People tell me they see signs of my weight loss more in my face and I have cheekbones back now. So does anyone have any suggestions as to what to prioritise when dieting? I love all vegetables and fruits, but I'm not sure which ones are the most beneficial etc. Also does anyone know which foods are beneficial for your skin? I suffer from blemishes and look a bit like a vampire most of the time with no natural color. *Hides*
that's great that you decided to change things...diet is definitely a big part of losing weight. i myself have changed my diet and have read a few articles here and there about dieting. so the one piece of advice i can give is eat more often. and by that i mean healthy food like fruits and veggies. instead of having 3 big meals a day, you'll have more of like 6-8 smaller meals. so what you want to do is eat before you get hungry, say every 2-3 hrs. that way your body is getting the proper nutrients on time, stops you from pigging out and you therefore consume less calories.
but of course your sched really needs to allow for this sort of dieting approach.
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Hm.. I lost over 20 pounds since january.
Just eat as much as you *need*, not as much as you like.
Try to avoid the obv. bad stuff like: Coke, Sprite, Shocolate Drinks, Fried stuff, vegetables with *thick sauces*...
Works like a charm.
Oh, and find a sport you really like and want to do, not because it's good for you but because you like to play/make it. I can't understand how people do stuff like:
jogging, cycling, weightlifting, excercising, swimming, aerobic... Boooaaaring...
But Tabletennis and Squash are pure awesome.
If you really want to do it, you will find time for it  .
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thedeadhaji
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On August 04 2009 13:42 psion0011 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2009 06:24 Cheerio wrote:5 weeks into training: not a single missed workout and +3-3,5 kg of weight (muscle I hope . Still too scinny at 60 kg and 178 sm. GL to all you guys reaching your goals: fitness is definately worth it. Yeah it's almost kind of disgusting how fit someone can look just by going to the gym 3 times a week, 1-1.5 hours each time. You can easily look as good as Michael Phelps, a serious athlete who trains for like 8 hours a day.
I'm totally speaking out of my ass, and this isn't really even relevant to the issue, but wouldnt phelps, being a swimmer, have a body fat % of like 13'ish? Or at least iirc from what a friend told me even professional swimmers keep higher %'s for buoyancy?
On August 06 2009 13:48 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 13:30 Hurricane wrote:On August 06 2009 13:06 decafchicken wrote:
my normal gym sucks ~~ no dead lifts/rows/squats/anything good for you T_T How can they be classified as a gym. That is total horse shit. Heh yeah i hate it. Squat is sitting in the attic of the gym gathering dust But while i was at my old hs a kid there a year below me (hes 17) weighs 155 and squatted 340 lbs for 10 reps O.O i was like what the fuck, apparantly he maxes out at 450, idk how he's 50 pounds less than me and squats 70 pounds more. T_T
haha when I was a HS sophomore playing soccer I was maxing squats at 450 adn weighed 145 
LOL I cant even come CLOSE to that anymore
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I'm starting to kill myself. 5-6 days of weight training, and almost daily cardio, with high intensity interval training 3 times a week. I might post an update photo next week. it sucks but I think I may still be 6-8 weeks away. Maybe more.
I am getting tired of the diet, I really am but I have started indulging just a bit here and there, in terms of maybe a cookie after dinner or some honey on my oatmeal in the morning, just small things to keep myself from cheating or going crazy.
I went down to around 150lb last December, climbed up and peaked at 161lb in terms of muscle development, and I have gone back down to 154lb (fat loss), aiming at 150lb again, but this time lean whilst December last year I had no muscle mass and still had fat. This is only my current goal to reveal my six pack, at which point I would like to get to 165-170lb and maintain <8-10% body fat.
I hate the fact that it is all out of my hands now and it is purely a matter of time.
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"This only my current goal to reveal my six pack"
they're shy
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One of the biggest motivators is starting a fitness blog, for me at least. The idea that you are telling people that this is your goal, and here is what I am doing give you more motivation to follow through. Take pictures every month or 2 weeks or whatever and post them. You want people to see results, not the same fattie after 3 months!
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holy crap energies
how do you find the time to do that workout of yers :s
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Im doing cardio (either p90x vids or tennis): 6-7 days a week.
Hangboard workout (front lever progression, pullups, 1 arm deadhangs, hangs to increase grip), reps of hanging knees to elbows, some other stuff: 3x a week
Some bouldering on my wall: 7-10x a week
stretching sessions 2-3x a week
it's a lot of working out but for some reason it's the part of my life I enjoy the most right now... I stopped taking my ADD meds and stopped smoking weed so that may have something to do with it.
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
+ Show Spoiler +On August 06 2009 18:28 unknown.sam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 14:22 NeverGG wrote:I'm really ashamed by how much weight I've gained recently so I'm not going to post the numbers here (plus one of my students called me fat today -____-) My mum suggested I lose about 1 stone/14 pounds, but I'm kind of clueless about where to start cutting back in my diet (aside from the obvious avoidance of junk food,soda and fried food etc.) I've pretty much entirely (but am making sure I don't eat at all from now on.) Takeaway food. Ice cream. Soda. (Substituted with water and green/herbal teas.) Fried foods. Chocolate/cake/candies and all other desserts. White rice/white bread/pasta/noodles. Cheese (hard and cream.) I have trouble exercising because of two factors - my job (teaching little kids English.) is really mentally draining and also the bone structure in my chest is weird so certain things push on my windpipe and mean that I can't run for more than a few minutes without feeling like I want to keel over. I was thinking of starting with progressively longer walks. + Show Spoiler +I'm ashamed to go to a gym here in Korea because I feel like enough of a freak as it is. I also have access to a large roof garden at night where I could potentially do some form of work out. Any suggestions are really welcomed. Most of the weight has gone to my stomach (which used to be flat.) and my thighs/bum. (Plus a little bit to my arms.) People tell me they see signs of my weight loss more in my face and I have cheekbones back now. So does anyone have any suggestions as to what to prioritise when dieting? I love all vegetables and fruits, but I'm not sure which ones are the most beneficial etc. Also does anyone know which foods are beneficial for your skin? I suffer from blemishes and look a bit like a vampire most of the time with no natural color. *Hides* that's great that you decided to change things...diet is definitely a big part of losing weight. i myself have changed my diet and have read a few articles here and there about dieting. so the one piece of advice i can give is eat more often. and by that i mean healthy food like fruits and veggies. instead of having 3 big meals a day, you'll have more of like 6-8 smaller meals. so what you want to do is eat before you get hungry, say every 2-3 hrs. that way your body is getting the proper nutrients on time, stops you from pigging out and you therefore consume less calories. but of course your sched really needs to allow for this sort of dieting approach.
This is actually possible for me - I've also found a cheap source for little packets of nuts/seeds and raisins that are perfect for snacking on through out the day. I'm going to keep on preparing fruit and veg snacks before work. I've found I get really nauseous if I don't eat every couple of hours so hopefully this healthy snacking will stop that too.
The upside of saving so hard for my camera/lenses is that I just don't have the money to spend on buying breakfast each morning (breakfast used to consist of sandwiches, chocolate, snacks and soda.)
I also tried getting off one stop earlier on the subway yesterday. It takes me 10 minutes to brisk walk back home from there. It's not much, but it's a start.
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