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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
November 15 2009 14:12 GMT
#2061
I'm thinking about getting into boxing. I've always wanted to do fighting of some sort and boxing should really get me into shape physically and mentally.

lol.. found this on live journal. bryan clay is a beast.
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Meat
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands3751 Posts
November 15 2009 23:18 GMT
#2062
On November 15 2009 03:13 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2009 03:08 Pengu1n wrote:
On November 15 2009 03:00 eshlow wrote:
On November 15 2009 02:34 Famehunter wrote:
On November 14 2009 06:45 SoleSteeler wrote:
On November 14 2009 06:12 eshlow wrote:
1. Yes, it's probably not a good idea to do much more than 30g. You'll be peeing expensive urine.



Damn, this explains why I've been pissing a lot recently. I've been doing double scoop protein shakes with 500 ml of milk, which is like 68 grams of protein. So I've been wasting a lot of protein then? Damnit!


Too much protein will actually damage your kidney, dont mess with that stuff man.


Myth. Unless you have prior kidney condition too much protein along with proper hydration will not damage your kidneys.


Who to believe with no proof?


In the time it takes to post that, you can google protein kidney damage and get this:
Show nested quote +
March 17, 2003 -- High-protein diets like that of the popular Atkins diet may accelerate the loss of kidney function in people with early problems. However, these controversial diets do not seem to affect people with normal kidneys, suggests new research.

The problem is, as many as 20 million Americans are at risk for reduced kidney function but don't know it.

http://www.webmd.com/news/20030317/high-protein-diets-can-hurt-kidneys

In "burn the fat, feed the muscle" Tom Venuto recommends to drink at least 1 liter water per day to avoid excessive load for the kidney. For a good diet he obviously recommends a lot more.
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Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-16 00:25:42
November 16 2009 00:17 GMT
#2063
Thanks for the help previously solesteeler/eshlow.

My lower back has just started bothering me a little bit today, like no sharp pain or anything, but definite discomfort. Not any type of soreness/adaptation I have experienced is like this. I have just recently added squatting/deadlifting to my lower body program due to the lack of it, plus the amount of success I've recently read about SS, and even how often it's been recommended here. I am 100% sure that I have been keeping my back completely straight, as I have already mastered this with lunging, and I have felt no discomfort actually during the lifts.

So my next question is, is this a result of me overdoing it, bad form, or simply adaptation to the loads? (of course I have been lifting heavy as recommended also)

EDIT: My back is actually starting to hurt now. Probably eliminating the squats and deadlifts until it heals/I can actually get trainer assistance on form. This might not even be the reason due to it but I'm not gonna fuck around with my back.

This injury will possibly fuck up a vast amount of my program. (euhfwefefwjnefg)
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 16 2009 00:47 GMT
#2064
Take video of yourself if you can. That's the best way to evaluate form
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
November 16 2009 01:23 GMT
#2065
On November 16 2009 08:18 Liquid`Meat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2009 03:13 decafchicken wrote:
On November 15 2009 03:08 Pengu1n wrote:
On November 15 2009 03:00 eshlow wrote:
On November 15 2009 02:34 Famehunter wrote:
On November 14 2009 06:45 SoleSteeler wrote:
On November 14 2009 06:12 eshlow wrote:
1. Yes, it's probably not a good idea to do much more than 30g. You'll be peeing expensive urine.



Damn, this explains why I've been pissing a lot recently. I've been doing double scoop protein shakes with 500 ml of milk, which is like 68 grams of protein. So I've been wasting a lot of protein then? Damnit!


Too much protein will actually damage your kidney, dont mess with that stuff man.


Myth. Unless you have prior kidney condition too much protein along with proper hydration will not damage your kidneys.


Who to believe with no proof?


In the time it takes to post that, you can google protein kidney damage and get this:
March 17, 2003 -- High-protein diets like that of the popular Atkins diet may accelerate the loss of kidney function in people with early problems. However, these controversial diets do not seem to affect people with normal kidneys, suggests new research.

The problem is, as many as 20 million Americans are at risk for reduced kidney function but don't know it.

http://www.webmd.com/news/20030317/high-protein-diets-can-hurt-kidneys

In "burn the fat, feed the muscle" Tom Venuto recommends to drink at least 1 liter water per day to avoid excessive load for the kidney. For a good diet he obviously recommends a lot more.

do you happen to have the ebook for that?? or know a link where i can get it (for free obviously)
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
November 16 2009 01:51 GMT
#2066
I have an inlamed shoulder balde. it hurts. So I won't be lifting for a week
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
November 16 2009 02:55 GMT
#2067
Awww I hope you're feeling better soon jfazz. Don't strain yourself!

I think I need to go shopping. My new jeans are actually beginning to feel loose on me now. My stomach is looking flatter. I'm really going for the diet pretty hardcore now and eating mostly fruits, veggies, tuna and lots of tofu. Tonight I'm going to treat myself to a baked potato though. It's freezing and I want something nice and toasty.

Also I was wondering - my starting weight was 83.6kg and I'm now somewhere between 70-72kg. Is 65kg a realistic and healthy weight for someone at 5'11 or should I be aiming for something higher/lower? I doubt I can go much lower without exercising more than my job allows me to, but I'd like to lose a bit more by really controlling my diet. It makes me feel more confident and in control of other elements of my life.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
November 16 2009 03:03 GMT
#2068
Hey NeverGG - sounds like its all working out fantastically for you! It does get a litle annoying having to keep buying new clothes, but eventually that will stop My body shape is completely different now (no stomach, bigger chest), so a lot of my clothes all fit oddly. You diet sounds great, im a little jealous. No one else in my family eats tofu, so we don't buy it

You have lost a lot of weight, but yes, you can healthily lose more. I am 5'10" and weigh 66kg at the moment, so given your frame will be slimmer than mine, you should be fine.

Keep up the good work (and try to abduct Savior for me...ill pay anything).
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
November 16 2009 10:00 GMT
#2069
I just convinced my family to buy more tofu so I can get more protein in my diet. I just found this online. "When cooking with tofu it is important to add some sort of sea vegetable to the final dish as there are goitrogens present in tofu that can suppress the thyroid and the naturally occurring iodine in sea vegetables helps to counteract this." I have no idea how accurate it is and I've never heard that fact before but eating more vegetables can't hurt so I'm going to start doing that.

Swim season tryouts were today. It was a pretty short workout. Just a 300m warm up, 6x50 on 1:00 (odds fly/back, evens breast/free), 4x100m descending for time (2:10, 2:00, 1:50, 1:30). I managed to do 1:23, 1:21, 1:19, 1:17 on the 100s. Not too slow considering I haven't swam for like 8-9 months.

jfazz-hope you heal quickly dude. if it's just your shoulder you'll be able to do core and leg stuff still right?

nevergg-65kg should be alright as long as you dont try to lose weight too fast and go bulimic and stuff. i'm watching your camera blog right now btw. if you're an experimental kind of photographer you should go for a holga and a fisheye (which is pretty cheap). if you still want to do digital i'm pretty sure you can mod the holga and turn it into a dslr lens.
biomedical
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
235 Posts
November 16 2009 10:11 GMT
#2070
nevergg, imo for girls the thinner and smaller the better, in most cases. on the other hand, sexuality and sexual tastes are variable, ie if a man likes you he will begin to prefer your body-type nomatter what. best ask forgg what he likes best imo and go from there.
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
November 16 2009 11:04 GMT
#2071
Yeah I still did an abs session, but even that hurt a little (just the limited arm movement in crunches and cycles was enough). Ill skip chest, back and arm workouts this week and do legs on friday; ill just keep up the cardio and hopefully by next week all will be well again!
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 16 2009 18:31 GMT
#2072
On November 16 2009 19:00 madnessman wrote:
I just convinced my family to buy more tofu so I can get more protein in my diet. I just found this online. "When cooking with tofu it is important to add some sort of sea vegetable to the final dish as there are goitrogens present in tofu that can suppress the thyroid and the naturally occurring iodine in sea vegetables helps to counteract this." I have no idea how accurate it is and I've never heard that fact before but eating more vegetables can't hurt so I'm going to start doing that.

Swim season tryouts were today. It was a pretty short workout. Just a 300m warm up, 6x50 on 1:00 (odds fly/back, evens breast/free), 4x100m descending for time (2:10, 2:00, 1:50, 1:30). I managed to do 1:23, 1:21, 1:19, 1:17 on the 100s. Not too slow considering I haven't swam for like 8-9 months.

jfazz-hope you heal quickly dude. if it's just your shoulder you'll be able to do core and leg stuff still right?

nevergg-65kg should be alright as long as you dont try to lose weight too fast and go bulimic and stuff. i'm watching your camera blog right now btw. if you're an experimental kind of photographer you should go for a holga and a fisheye (which is pretty cheap). if you still want to do digital i'm pretty sure you can mod the holga and turn it into a dslr lens.


Soy products are all questionable. There's conflicting opinions out there from stuff like phytoestrogens to the stuff you mentioned. I just say away from it in general.

It would've probably been better to just buy some whey or just eat more meat.


jfazz: why/where is your scapula inflammed?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-16 20:17:18
November 16 2009 20:17 GMT
#2073
On November 16 2009 11:55 NeverGG wrote:
Awww I hope you're feeling better soon jfazz. Don't strain yourself!

I think I need to go shopping. My new jeans are actually beginning to feel loose on me now. My stomach is looking flatter. I'm really going for the diet pretty hardcore now and eating mostly fruits, veggies, tuna and lots of tofu. Tonight I'm going to treat myself to a baked potato though. It's freezing and I want something nice and toasty.

Also I was wondering - my starting weight was 83.6kg and I'm now somewhere between 70-72kg. Is 65kg a realistic and healthy weight for someone at 5'11 or should I be aiming for something higher/lower? I doubt I can go much lower without exercising more than my job allows me to, but I'd like to lose a bit more by really controlling my diet. It makes me feel more confident and in control of other elements of my life.


Wow, that's some great weight loss right there! Congrats =) I'm quite impressed

Btw a tip for further dieting would be to not eat that much fruit, since it's basically all sugar. Eat 1-2 fruits/day tops. Otherwise veggies with tuna, tofu, protein in general sounds good. Don't remove fats either; salmon, avocados, nuts are all good sources of healthy fats. Omega-3 also helps burning fat, and improves brain functioning etc. Cutting out rice, pasta and other fast, white carbs seem to help alot of people loose weight effectively.

Your weight is of course dependant on how skinny you want to be. I wouldn't go under 60 kg in either case, considering you are 180 cm tall. 65 kg is perfectly realistic for a woman of that height, it would be "ideal" from the fashion/ideals standpoint for most women. But personally too skinny isn't that nice imo, so 65-68 is probably perfect. It's so dependent on how much muscle you have too; more muscle, more weight without being fat.

I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
November 16 2009 21:01 GMT
#2074
You know Eshlow, im not 100% certain. I just noticed a few days ago that it REALLY HURT. I think it has been an accumulation of things over the last few months - but having recently switched to shoulder presses (or push presses I think they are called actually, the overhead one) from lateral raises, I think the additional stress of that exercise has finally caused the injury.

I have been on anti-inflammatory medicine for three days, and it helps, but the pain is ridiculous in the morning after I get up (so basically as I write this...so take my words as horribly biased).

Im taking the week off any lifting to see if that helps - if pain pursists, ill see a medical practitioner, but hopefully by next week I can get back to lifting. Thoughts?
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 17 2009 01:26 GMT
#2075
On November 17 2009 06:01 jfazz wrote:
You know Eshlow, im not 100% certain. I just noticed a few days ago that it REALLY HURT. I think it has been an accumulation of things over the last few months - but having recently switched to shoulder presses (or push presses I think they are called actually, the overhead one) from lateral raises, I think the additional stress of that exercise has finally caused the injury.

I have been on anti-inflammatory medicine for three days, and it helps, but the pain is ridiculous in the morning after I get up (so basically as I write this...so take my words as horribly biased).

Im taking the week off any lifting to see if that helps - if pain pursists, ill see a medical practitioner, but hopefully by next week I can get back to lifting. Thoughts?


I would suggest getting a deep tissue massage or possibly getting it evaled by a physical therapist...
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
November 17 2009 03:27 GMT
#2076
did a couple pre-off season fitness trials today:
40 yd dash: 4.8
400m: 1:15
Mile: had to stop cuz of shinsplint, was at 6:05 with 1/9 of mile left so somewhere in the 6:45 range. hopefully i can make this a lot faster if my shins stop hurting.
Bench rep max: 185x14

doing squat max and bench max tomorrow,
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 17 2009 03:36 GMT
#2077
On November 17 2009 12:27 decafchicken wrote:
did a couple pre-off season fitness trials today:
40 yd dash: 4.8
400m: 1:15
Mile: had to stop cuz of shinsplint, was at 6:05 with 1/9 of mile left so somewhere in the 6:45 range. hopefully i can make this a lot faster if my shins stop hurting.
Bench rep max: 185x14

doing squat max and bench max tomorrow,


Overuse?

Shin splints most often occur if you're incorrectly running... a la heel toe.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
November 17 2009 04:00 GMT
#2078
hey eshlow i was just wondering...
are dips a good way of gauging how much a person can bench??
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
November 17 2009 04:19 GMT
#2079
On November 17 2009 12:36 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 12:27 decafchicken wrote:
did a couple pre-off season fitness trials today:
40 yd dash: 4.8
400m: 1:15
Mile: had to stop cuz of shinsplint, was at 6:05 with 1/9 of mile left so somewhere in the 6:45 range. hopefully i can make this a lot faster if my shins stop hurting.
Bench rep max: 185x14

doing squat max and bench max tomorrow,


Overuse?

Shin splints most often occur if you're incorrectly running... a la heel toe.


nah just my right one started acting up mid season for some reason. i'm pretty sure i strike midfoot when running, and definitely balls of my feet when sprinting.

also, i have no idea how i put up 14x185 when i couldnt even do that last year and i took 5 weeks off and have benched twice since that 5 week break ~~
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
November 17 2009 06:39 GMT
#2080
The shoulder is feeling a little better today, there is hope of a speedy recovery!
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