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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2044 Posts
June 10 2022 13:51 GMT
#2841
Is there any documentation on the actual expenses of Haaland transfer? As far as I've understood, Liverpool didn't even try to sign him because of the finances. That feels pretty crazy now that they seem to be willing to splash out 80+ million on Nunez. If that's the case, Haaland's individual terms must have some crazy numbers in them.


{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 10 2022 16:10 GMT
#2842
..... Again one would think Zidane would not like to be in charge of such a range of egos, not to mention have to get the go ahead from a 23 year old that has all the power of an owner.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 10 2022 16:35 GMT
#2843
Like i said before, PSG have kicked the biggest thing holding them back...Leonardo.

They have now kept Mbappe, brought in Campos who is very very good sporting director, just look at who he bought in Monaco, insane!

Now they can attract someone like Zidane to come into the club knowing he will have way more say of what is going on and not have to listen to Leonardo!

PSG are now going to be a real force as they have hired brains!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
June 10 2022 19:00 GMT
#2844
On June 10 2022 22:51 Bacillus wrote:
Is there any documentation on the actual expenses of Haaland transfer? As far as I've understood, Liverpool didn't even try to sign him because of the finances. That feels pretty crazy now that they seem to be willing to splash out 80+ million on Nunez. If that's the case, Haaland's individual terms must have some crazy numbers in them.




Obviously. Haaland is gonna earn around 500k/week plus signing bonus. Nunez right now earns 40k/week at Benfica so he might accept as low as 100k/week or so from Liverpool.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4400 Posts
June 11 2022 07:38 GMT
#2845
Wtf is Guendouzi doing in the French national team? Surely there is better
Sucker for nostalgia
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18275 Posts
June 11 2022 08:47 GMT
#2846
On June 11 2022 16:38 DropBear wrote:
Wtf is Guendouzi doing in the French national team? Surely there is better

Nations League matches are friendlies. Glorified into a tournament fashion, but still friendlies. One of the points of friendlies is to experiment a bit with different systems and give other players than your top 11 a chance to play and get some experience in international matches.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9838 Posts
June 11 2022 09:12 GMT
#2847


Noticed people were talking about this, this video is good.
RIP Meatloaf <3
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18629 Posts
June 11 2022 13:26 GMT
#2848
This video is made to look good but the content makes no sense. Arsenal need someone who scores 20+ goals and his video showed jesus is not that type of player and yet his verdict is arsenal would proit from jesus
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-11 15:00:35
June 11 2022 14:56 GMT
#2849
This is very likely not going to fly for commercial or even political reasons... But how do you all feel about a regional format EU competition over the current Nations League format? Countries are divided according to geographical or even cultural proximity. Champions of each region advance to a 8-10 team final knockout round.

Here's the rough groupings (sorry for missing out on any region or miss-clumping countries, just examples on top of my head):

Mediterrenean: Spain, Portugal, Greece, Turkey, etc
British Isles: England, Scotland, Wales, NI, etc
Nordic: Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland
Baltic: Estonia, Latvia, etc (okay, a bunch of minnows, maybe the winner needs to play some pre-qualifier with another rep from another weak region)
Central: France, Germany, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium (okay, this is a bloodbath, maybe need to be divided into more regions, or given more slots to advance)
Slavic: Czech, Croatia, Serbia (okay, this one probably has high risk of volatility...)

You get the idea. Lotsa patriotic pride and historic rivalry at stake to generate hype! What do you all think?
gg no re thx
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 11 2022 15:23 GMT
#2850
Yeah i like the idea you mention could be a good thing to divide it up that way then like you say just finish it off in a summer with 8 team fast tournament.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18629 Posts
June 11 2022 16:02 GMT
#2851
Definitely makes way more sense than forcing everyone to fly through Europe!
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
June 11 2022 17:15 GMT
#2852
Maybe for other regions. Balkan one...well there would probably be blood. For sure. Like 10000%. It would work only if fans wouldn't be allowed coming to away games. Maybe even then not.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-11 17:44:16
June 11 2022 17:24 GMT
#2853
As first reaction, I think the reduced travel is the only thing I really prefer on the regional system.

Some of the rivalries would get stale pretty fast if they happen every year and the regional divisions would probably end up being very unfair in one way or the other. There's likely loads of money involved in qualifying, so there's probably loads of corruption involved in who get grouped together. I guess you can rig the current lottery system too though, there have been talks about heated balls and all kinds of trickery, so who knows.

If we can somehow make peace with the travel fatigue and environmental cost and all that, I really prefer the European wide qualification.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18629 Posts
June 11 2022 19:17 GMT
#2854
Wow Aurelien Tchouameni i didnt know hom but he seems impressive
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 11 2022 19:31 GMT
#2855
Yeah, the reduced travel is definitely a secondary benefit.

The Nations League is supposed to pit equal strength teams against each other so that it's more competitive and interesting. But a lot of teams, including top teams, are just fielding experimental squads, which kinda defeats the purpose.

Probably the regional format won't be any much better. But maybe the neighbourly rivalry may put more at stake. And in the end, even if the teams don't treat the competition seriously, at least we don't get players fatigued travelling to play matches that their hearts not into...
gg no re thx
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-11 19:45:00
June 11 2022 19:44 GMT
#2856
On June 12 2022 04:31 RKC wrote:
Probably the regional format won't be any much better. But maybe the neighbourly rivalry may put more at stake. And in the end, even if the teams don't treat the competition seriously, at least we don't get players fatigued travelling to play matches that their hearts not into...

I think the neighbouring rivalry is so precious because it's still rare enough. Twice in a league of 38 games is fine. Twice in a set of 6 games every qualifier gets repetetive very quickly even if it's over a two year cycle or so. I don't know how the Old Firm works 3 times a season, but even that's far better than the repeated groups of 4 would be.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28786 Posts
June 11 2022 19:55 GMT
#2857
Nations league is designed for div B and below, and for all the non div A teams, it's great - and teams are definitely not fielding B teams. for Norway in the past, qualifier games tended to be very lopsided - we weren't good enough to beat the top tier teams, but we'd still pretty reliably crush the bottom two teams of the group, so in a 6 team group, we'd see maybe four kinda interesting games. Nations league however consistently matches us against teams we're fairly evenly matched against, and it also gives a possible way into a future championship (again, for the top tier teams this is much less important as they normally qualify from the regular qualifier anyway), making it important.

For me, nations league is on average more interesting than what the regular qualifier games are, although less interesting than the most interesting regular qualifier games. I love the format and hope it stays around for a long time, no need for any changes.

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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2044 Posts
June 11 2022 20:23 GMT
#2858
On June 12 2022 04:55 Liquid`Drone wrote:
For me, nations league is on average more interesting than what the regular qualifier games are, although less interesting than the most interesting regular qualifier games. I love the format and hope it stays around for a long time, no need for any changes.

Yeah, as a Finn it's very similar story.

I don't know if there's a way to make it interesting for the top tier teams that are more often qualified through the actual qualifier, but for teams below that it's really good. I guess some of the top tier teams may still end up needing that qualifier, so you can't just exclude them and let them rest or play friendlies or whatever the cool kids do these days.

I'd like to think there's a way to make the tournament meaningful for everyone, but I can't come up with any good suggestions right now.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
June 11 2022 20:41 GMT
#2859
Once the nations league has been around for a few iterations, I expect that players and fans will start caring eventually, even among the big teams.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 11 2022 20:56 GMT
#2860
Yes, I do agree the Nations League is a great platform for middle-tier teams to build for the future. In fact, I'm more excited in the games in the lower leagues and the underdogs in the top tier (Denmark).

Overall, I'm not against the Nations League. It's definitely a step above random friendlies. Just throwing out an alternative idea, that's all.
gg no re thx
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