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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8808 Posts
August 26 2020 03:51 GMT
#4821
can city actually afford his wages? even if he goes for free his wages are like 900k or something.
for a club that went really close to being banned just a few months ago i dunno how theyre gonna justify being able to pay his wages
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
August 26 2020 04:38 GMT
#4822
They would have been banned for what happened a few years ago (fake sponsorship deals). Now they're fine.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4390 Posts
August 26 2020 05:24 GMT
#4823
Messi could always take a pay cut. He doesn't NEED 40 million a year.

I'd love to see him go to Italy. The two best of all time back at it again. Imagine him signing for someone like AC Milan or Lazio. Might make Serie A serious business again.
Sucker for nostalgia
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2724 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-26 05:41:39
August 26 2020 05:39 GMT
#4824
At least Italian is very easy to learn for Spanish speakers (And Argentinians are half Italians anyway xD). I don't think Messi knows any English.

But still, if he leaves I think probably he would want to go to City with Pep.
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1636 Posts
August 26 2020 07:01 GMT
#4825
Holy, it's been almost a decade since I posted in one of this threads.

Quite the summer saga we are going to have with this. I think there's a huge chance that Messi is trying to push Bartomeu out, but this would only further proof that he has too much control in the club and that's not good anyway. But if it's true he is trying to leave, it's one of the most unloyal ways possible: leaving 0 income to a club in debt and in need of a rebuild.

I understand that Barcelona has failed to provide the best ever with a solid team for his last years, but that does not mean they haven't tried. They have been spending big, with poor success, but that's just how it goes sometimes. Messi should have forced them to accept the best offer with just the warning of leaving free if they didn't, that would have been better for both sides (kinda like CR did).

Anyway, grab the popcorn, this is far from over
I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-26 07:10:44
August 26 2020 07:09 GMT
#4826
I don't see how that's unloyal. He's given the club 20 years, he should have the right to leave for free. On top of that, they didn't pay for him to join the club, he's given them many many trophies, and how much money did he bring the club by being the best player in the world? Barça in 2004 didn't have nearly as many fans nor financial power, and he's one of the main reasons for their growth.

Also he would have left for free next season, they never really planned on getting money for him. Culés love him and will not hate him for leaving like that. If anything, they understand why and would wish him to be happy somewhere else (as long as it's not RM).
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-26 07:19:48
August 26 2020 07:14 GMT
#4827
Sooo was Koeman brought on with the intention of building a complete new squad anyway or will he possibly be the shortest term manager of all time because he kicked Messi out and will subsequently let go for this xD

To Messi: I can really only see him in the PL. Chelsea seems done with spending already, that leaves LFC, ManU and City.

Serie A is picking up its pace the last years, but it's not there yet IMO

Bundesliga would only be Bayern and I can't imagine them picking up Messi cause he earns too much money and Bayern is very strict about salaries. That's why they are the best managed club in the world
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1636 Posts
August 26 2020 07:37 GMT
#4828
On August 26 2020 16:09 WillyWanker wrote:
I don't see how that's unloyal [...]


Maybe unloyal is not the word, but he should have made it in a way that his departure left some value in the club. He has that clause signed in his contract so he can force them to take a deal or leave on a free, he can force his way out but help the team rebuild at the same time. I don't know, 20 years should mean something to him to. A bad board is not an excuse to leave the club in shambles without, I don't know, netting 100 million to help.
I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8808 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-26 07:43:03
August 26 2020 07:41 GMT
#4829
messi leaving for free would be the biggest fuck you to bartomeu and i dont think any barca fan would complain about it because frankly bartomeu deserves it.
seems the only clubs that could realistically afford him are city, psg and possibly united.
as a united fan one can dream that messi doesnt want to associate with arab money but city seems like the likelier destination assuming they dont have ffp issues.

On August 26 2020 16:37 Telemako wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2020 16:09 WillyWanker wrote:
I don't see how that's unloyal [...]


Maybe unloyal is not the word, but he should have made it in a way that his departure left some value in the club. He has that clause signed in his contract so he can force them to take a deal or leave on a free, he can force his way out but help the team rebuild at the same time. I don't know, 20 years should mean something to him to. A bad board is not an excuse to leave the club in shambles without, I don't know, netting 100 million to help.

messi has generated way more for the club than any transfer revenue his sale might generate. its not his fault the board was so incompetent that they squandered all of it
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 26 2020 08:03 GMT
#4830
Messi leaving Europe? Not buying it. He's going to play top football until the next World Cup. After that, he could stop down.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
August 26 2020 08:06 GMT
#4831
On August 26 2020 16:37 Telemako wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2020 16:09 WillyWanker wrote:
I don't see how that's unloyal [...]


Maybe unloyal is not the word, but he should have made it in a way that his departure left some value in the club. He has that clause signed in his contract so he can force them to take a deal or leave on a free, he can force his way out but help the team rebuild at the same time. I don't know, 20 years should mean something to him to. A bad board is not an excuse to leave the club in shambles without, I don't know, netting 100 million to help.


Well if he leaves it does free up tons of money from his wage bill to help Barca rebuild.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
August 26 2020 08:08 GMT
#4832
On August 26 2020 16:41 evilfatsh1t wrote:
messi leaving for free would be the biggest fuck you to bartomeu and i dont think any barca fan would complain about it because frankly bartomeu deserves it.
seems the only clubs that could realistically afford him are city, psg and possibly united.
as a united fan one can dream that messi doesnt want to associate with arab money but city seems like the likelier destination assuming they dont have ffp issues.

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2020 16:37 Telemako wrote:
On August 26 2020 16:09 WillyWanker wrote:
I don't see how that's unloyal [...]


Maybe unloyal is not the word, but he should have made it in a way that his departure left some value in the club. He has that clause signed in his contract so he can force them to take a deal or leave on a free, he can force his way out but help the team rebuild at the same time. I don't know, 20 years should mean something to him to. A bad board is not an excuse to leave the club in shambles without, I don't know, netting 100 million to help.

messi has generated way more for the club than any transfer revenue his sale might generate. its not his fault the board was so incompetent that they squandered all of it


As a United and Messi fan I wouldn't want him at United lol, we are still in rebuild mode and Messi would be wasting his time here. He would be better off staying at Barca. If he goes to City it would be much better for him at this stage of his career.
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
August 26 2020 10:23 GMT
#4833
I would love to see him going to Dortmund or Valencia just for the lulz.
United would be my dream, but it would be better for the club if he's not there (possible short-term success vs. development of young players). Agree with the general sentiment here, City most likely, PSG possibly.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3994 Posts
August 26 2020 10:39 GMT
#4834
On August 26 2020 16:14 Harris1st wrote:
Sooo was Koeman brought on with the intention of building a complete new squad anyway or will he possibly be the shortest term manager of all time because he kicked Messi out and will subsequently let go for this xD

To Messi: I can really only see him in the PL. Chelsea seems done with spending already, that leaves LFC, ManU and City.

Serie A is picking up its pace the last years, but it's not there yet IMO

Bundesliga would only be Bayern and I can't imagine them picking up Messi cause he earns too much money and Bayern is very strict about salaries. That's why they are the best managed club in the world


I was thinking the same question. There must have been talks about this between Koeman and the board before his appointment. But on the other hand, if he throws out the entire old elite (suarez, busi, pique), starts rebuilding and finishes about 5th in the league (my wild guess), he could well be on his way to make room for Xavi. That would make his job a stopgap with a small chance of the new team doing well straight from the get-go.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7088 Posts
August 26 2020 10:50 GMT
#4835
On August 26 2020 19:39 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2020 16:14 Harris1st wrote:
Sooo was Koeman brought on with the intention of building a complete new squad anyway or will he possibly be the shortest term manager of all time because he kicked Messi out and will subsequently let go for this xD

To Messi: I can really only see him in the PL. Chelsea seems done with spending already, that leaves LFC, ManU and City.

Serie A is picking up its pace the last years, but it's not there yet IMO

Bundesliga would only be Bayern and I can't imagine them picking up Messi cause he earns too much money and Bayern is very strict about salaries. That's why they are the best managed club in the world


I was thinking the same question. There must have been talks about this between Koeman and the board before his appointment. But on the other hand, if he throws out the entire old elite (suarez, busi, pique), starts rebuilding and finishes about 5th in the league (my wild guess), he could well be on his way to make room for Xavi. That would make his job a stopgap with a small chance of the new team doing well straight from the get-go.


Apparently Koeman already had his fair share of shitshows because of his rather direct communication and his lack of tact

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/12444303/ronald-koeman-barcelona-reasons-wrong/
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8808 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-26 10:55:51
August 26 2020 10:55 GMT
#4836
On August 26 2020 19:23 Kotreb wrote:
I would love to see him going to Dortmund or Valencia just for the lulz.
United would be my dream, but it would be better for the club if he's not there (possible short-term success vs. development of young players). Agree with the general sentiment here, City most likely, PSG possibly.

stop going after sancho. get messi and greenwood can sub for any of the front 3. by the time messi leaves or retires greenwood takes his place in first eleven.
if this were to happen i would literally lose my shit. a man can dream
120720
Profile Blog Joined July 2020
95 Posts
August 26 2020 11:23 GMT
#4837
Barca should fight to keep him, then he should go on strike and don't show up to any training/match, be on every football starting game, barca playing 10 because they are "fighting" the strike, end of season barca is relegated.
Then in the winter they sell him somewhere for a bit less than 700 millions (666 by psg), then he get injured first game, then the world cup comes and here we have two choices:
either he is completely trash
or
he has been rested, he wants it all, he wins it, the rest is history, nobody watches football ever again, this is the peak scenario

but we are in a sad simulation so none of that will happen
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 26 2020 11:57 GMT
#4838
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
August 26 2020 12:02 GMT
#4839
On August 26 2020 16:37 Telemako wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2020 16:09 WillyWanker wrote:
I don't see how that's unloyal [...]


Maybe unloyal is not the word, but he should have made it in a way that his departure left some value in the club. He has that clause signed in his contract so he can force them to take a deal or leave on a free, he can force his way out but help the team rebuild at the same time. I don't know, 20 years should mean something to him to. A bad board is not an excuse to leave the club in shambles without, I don't know, netting 100 million to help.


I think that unloyal is a word that better describe the leadership in Barca then Messi. Remember that they hired media company to do Attacks on social medie in contract situations and if they have against the president. So i can understand he is feed up. Think most club can afford his wages with all the extra merchandise they are gonna sell.
GO OG
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
August 26 2020 13:36 GMT
#4840
On August 26 2020 19:55 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2020 19:23 Kotreb wrote:
I would love to see him going to Dortmund or Valencia just for the lulz.
United would be my dream, but it would be better for the club if he's not there (possible short-term success vs. development of young players). Agree with the general sentiment here, City most likely, PSG possibly.

stop going after sancho. get messi and greenwood can sub for any of the front 3. by the time messi leaves or retires greenwood takes his place in first eleven.
if this were to happen i would literally lose my shit. a man can dream

Where do I sign this? :D
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
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