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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7150 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-24 11:43:58
August 24 2020 11:40 GMT
#4781
On August 24 2020 08:02 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2020 07:45 Liquid`Drone wrote:
After their loss against munchengladbach 07.12.2019, Bayern is 29-1-0, with a goal difference of 98-22. (Bundesliga, DFB-Pokal and post-group stage CL)

Pretty intimidating before next season..

Maybe they’ll take their foot off the gas after winning a league and European double! Fingers crossed they do for the Bundesliga title race’s sense.

Not a huge fan of the increasing prominence given to the Ballon D’Or these days, but that aside it really is a shame for Lewa that they’re not running it this year.


If anyone should get any price, it is Neuer! The amount of 100%ers PSG had yesterday, it is incredible that he kept his clean sheet.

Was a bit sceptical of the ref yesterday but I think in the end he made a good job. Glad neither team got a penalty. IMO he was a bit onesided with yellows though. But maybe that's because I really wanted Bayern to win.

EDIT: Also Neymar is a huge douche. I hope Müller constantly whispered "7:1" in his ear
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26619 Posts
August 24 2020 11:42 GMT
#4782
On August 24 2020 20:15 sharkie wrote:
wow huge pressure on havertz to perform with this fee
thats crazy money

I am actually surprised we still have such sums with corona season

I guess Chelsea are a bit atypical because they did get to bank a chunk of what they would have otherwise spent what with their transfer ban.

Surely on a wider scale the current transfer/wages bubble has to at least deflate a little given the wider circumstances we’re operating under.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
August 24 2020 12:36 GMT
#4783
Chelsea is kind of in lucky situation. They could not sign players past couple of Windows. So now they can buy some of the best young talent in the world without much competition. So they will properly win Pl in couple of years.
GO OG
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26619 Posts
August 24 2020 13:16 GMT
#4784
On August 24 2020 21:36 Sapaio wrote:
Chelsea is kind of in lucky situation. They could not sign players past couple of Windows. So now they can buy some of the best young talent in the world without much competition. So they will properly win Pl in couple of years.

They could really do with a defender or two, although they look very exciting going forward for sure.

Liverpool seem in a really good spot too, albeit for different reasons. Who can afford to actually buy their prize assets like Salah or Mane? If they can keep ticking over and if players like Minamino and their youth products develop then they’ll have plenty of cash to replace some of their core players when they do age a bit in a few years.

Gotta say for a guy with zero posts you do seem curiously active in posting!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4399 Posts
August 24 2020 13:38 GMT
#4785
On August 24 2020 22:16 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2020 21:36 Sapaio wrote:
Chelsea is kind of in lucky situation. They could not sign players past couple of Windows. So now they can buy some of the best young talent in the world without much competition. So they will properly win Pl in couple of years.

They could really do with a defender or two, although they look very exciting going forward for sure.

Liverpool seem in a really good spot too, albeit for different reasons. Who can afford to actually buy their prize assets like Salah or Mane? If they can keep ticking over and if players like Minamino and their youth products develop then they’ll have plenty of cash to replace some of their core players when they do age a bit in a few years.

Gotta say for a guy with zero posts you do seem curiously active in posting!

He's posting from Liquid Dota
Sucker for nostalgia
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
August 24 2020 13:48 GMT
#4786
On August 24 2020 22:16 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2020 21:36 Sapaio wrote:
Chelsea is kind of in lucky situation. They could not sign players past couple of Windows. So now they can buy some of the best young talent in the world without much competition. So they will properly win Pl in couple of years.

They could really do with a defender or two, although they look very exciting going forward for sure.

Liverpool seem in a really good spot too, albeit for different reasons. Who can afford to actually buy their prize assets like Salah or Mane? If they can keep ticking over and if players like Minamino and their youth products develop then they’ll have plenty of cash to replace some of their core players when they do age a bit in a few years.

Gotta say for a guy with zero posts you do seem curiously active in posting!


LOL yeah active for Guy with zero post.

Chelsea should be close on Thiago Silva, he is not the top player he used to be. But he will bring a lot of experience to the squad. As a Dane it's sad to see AC didn't work out for them, hope he chose a German club as he had most succes there.
GO OG
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 24 2020 18:20 GMT
#4787
On August 24 2020 20:15 sharkie wrote:
wow huge pressure on havertz to perform with this fee
thats crazy money

I am actually surprised we still have such sums with corona season

Only because we have like £200 million burning a hole in our pocket due to not spending for 2 windows and getting vast money from Hazard and Morata.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 25 2020 00:45 GMT
#4788
On August 25 2020 03:20 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2020 20:15 sharkie wrote:
wow huge pressure on havertz to perform with this fee
thats crazy money

I am actually surprised we still have such sums with corona season

Only because we have like £200 million burning a hole in our pocket due to not spending for 2 windows and getting vast money from Hazard and Morata.


Thinking back both of those sales were excellent business.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-25 09:06:36
August 25 2020 08:58 GMT
#4789
Wouldn't this trigger financial fair play almost immediately, no matter what type of number crunching goes on? Said transaction would easily be over a billion dollars, on a 33-34 year old player. Not that Barca would even consider the such an offer to begin with.

Manchester City are crunching the numbers to work out if they would be able to sign Lionel Messi without breaching Financial Fair Play rules if the Barcelona star becomes available, sources have told ESPN.

City know any deal for Messi is complicated but want to be prepared should the option of bringing him arise. Therefore, they're looking into the costs that would be involved if Barca agree to sell for a reasonable price.

Barca's official stance is that Messi is not for sale and any interested parties will be referred to his €700 million release clause.

However, ESPN revealed last week that there are some members of the board that would be open to selling the Argentina international if he continues to push for an exit and the money is reinvested in rebuilding the team.

Messi is out of contract in 2021 and met with new coach Ronald Koeman last week to discuss his future. Sources confirmed to ESPN that he transmitted doubts about remaining at Camp Nou following the 8-2 defeat against Bayern Munich, which came on the back of Champions League exits against Liverpool and AS Roma.

At 33, Messi knows that he doesn't have many years left at the very top level and wants to ensure his final seasons are spent at a club competing for the game's biggest prizes.

In that sense, there are very few clubs capable of offering him what he wants before even broaching the issue of the cost of the transfer and his annual salary.

Paris Saint-Germain coach Thomas Tuchel, speaking after his side's Champions League final defeat to Bayern on Sunday, said Messi would be "welcome" at the French club but added he believes he will "finish his career at Barcelona."

Sources at City have always said the same thing and coach Pep Guardiola has stated on more than one occasion that he hasn't thought about signing Messi because he's convinced he will remain at Barca.

But other sources have told ESPN that City have always followed Messi's situation closely and are seriously looking into the costs involved in the deal given the current panoramic.

City came up short once again in the Champions League this season, losing to Lyon in the last eight, and know that the arrival of Messi would boost their chances of winning a first every European Cup.

Various financial experts consulted by ESPN, though, believe a move for Messi is not viable for any club at the moment given the impact the coronavirus pandemic has had on clubs' accounts.

In addition, City's finances are under the microscope more than ever following their recent win over UEFA at the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) following accusations of financial doping.

The CAS sided with City, overturning UEFA's two-year ban from European competitions but leaving a €10m fine in place due to the club's refusal to cooperate in UEFA's initial investigation.

City would have to convince Barca to negotiate Messi's exit for a more reasonable price than his €700m clause.

Barca, for now, don't want to name a price as they wait to see if Messi's desire to leave disappears or if he takes it public. He has always said that he and his family are happy in Barcelona, where he's lived for almost 20 years now. However, he's remaining silent since the Bayern humiliation and at 33 could prioritise a new sporting project away from the Catalan city he calls home.

Meanwhile, Man City chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak says more signings will follow this summer after the arrivals of Nathan Ake from Bournemouth for €40m and Ferran Torres from Valencia for €23m.

"We'll be sensible and pragmatic about it but we will do what it takes, I think you've seen when it comes to the two acquisitions we have made, Ake and Ferran Torres, we moved quickly," Khaldoon told the club's official media channels.

"There are additional players we will be bringing in and we will stick to the plan, obviously within the realities of the market that we live in today."

If Messi does decide to leave for City, he would link up with one of his best friends, Sergio Aguero, and Guardiola, the coach who helped him win two Champions Leagues in 2009 and 2011.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7150 Posts
August 25 2020 11:15 GMT
#4790
So pretty much everything is in Messi's hands now.

I see 3 possibilities:

1. Messi really wants to leave. -> Not selling him now will leave the club empty handed next year -> They will sell for 100-200kk

2. Messi just wants to force the club to reinforce their squad and is just threatening to leave as a means to have leverage

3. Messi is just very pissed at the loss to Munich but never really wanted to leave in the first place. -> He'll sign a contract extension soonTM
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2726 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-25 12:28:55
August 25 2020 12:28 GMT
#4791
On August 25 2020 20:15 Harris1st wrote:

3. Messi is just very pissed at the loss to Munich but never really wanted to leave in the first place. -> He'll sign a contract extension soonTM


Almost impossible with the current board. If Bartomeu had resigned and we had Laporta or Fons as candidates for elections this would be plausible.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
August 25 2020 13:07 GMT
#4792
On August 25 2020 20:15 Harris1st wrote:
So pretty much everything is in Messi's hands now.

I see 3 possibilities:

1. Messi really wants to leave. -> Not selling him now will leave the club empty handed next year -> They will sell for 100-200kk

2. Messi just wants to force the club to reinforce their squad and is just threatening to leave as a means to have leverage

3. Messi is just very pissed at the loss to Munich but never really wanted to leave in the first place. -> He'll sign a contract extension soonTM


4. Messi wants to leave and play in Argentina, Barca let him leave for Small fee, and something in contract with gagantic fee if he returns to EU.

5. Messi is so pissed and made so much money he just retire.
GO OG
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9831 Posts
August 25 2020 16:40 GMT
#4793
Wow Maguire might be in trouble.
Seems like he's got his Manchester United attitude 'Do you know who I am?' followed by attempting to bribe a cop. smh.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53903703
Manchester United captain Harry Maguire has been found guilty of repeated bodily harm, attempted bribery, violence against public employees and insult after his arrest on the Greek island of Mykonos.
RIP Meatloaf <3
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4399 Posts
August 25 2020 16:48 GMT
#4794
I would say lock him up, but that would improve United's defence so let him stay free
Sucker for nostalgia
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 25 2020 17:23 GMT
#4795
He won't be locked up. Apparently Greece has a way one can avoid jail time by paying to convert sentences into a fine. So essentially he will be able bribe his way out after all, he just has to pay the Greek government.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 25 2020 17:55 GMT
#4796
Haha Messi just activated some clause in his contract allowing him to leave Barca for free. Puyol tweeted thanks Messi and good luck as well to add wtf haha.

Where is he gonna go
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 25 2020 19:02 GMT
#4797
If the numbers add up I think Man City has to be favourites. Reuniting with Guardiola seems the safest option for Messi in his last years. Otherwise a top Italian team probably? If Juve get rid of CR7 they could be a good fit. Messi has Italian heritage.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
August 25 2020 19:06 GMT
#4798
I need him to go to Chelsea so we can all witness Pande become his biggest fan
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
August 25 2020 19:10 GMT
#4799
Wouldn't it be ridiculous if he went to PSG. Frankly I think he would best fit Liverpool, but I doubt they'll be able to pay his wages.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 25 2020 19:12 GMT
#4800
On August 26 2020 02:55 Pandemona wrote:
Haha Messi just activated some clause in his contract allowing him to leave Barca for free. Puyol tweeted thanks Messi and good luck as well to add wtf haha.

Where is he gonna go


Well its a bit controversial. The clause says he can leave before June for free.

Its past June, but then also there are extenuating circumstances because of Covid, What June really means in spirit is after the season.

But this cunt board wont let him go easy so w/e this is going to get ugly. Its amazing how things keep rotting and rotting and have to hit rock bottom before stuff changes. Even when they were winning this eventuality was coming.

Everyone should just support Bayern if they want to maintain their sanity or some shit. I dono.. atleast even if they arent good or not winning you can appreciate the team is run by and large and they generally make good decisions to counter bad ones relatively quickly.. Unless your German and not a Bayern supporter or something idk.
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