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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 08 2020 23:59 GMT
#2341
On January 09 2020 08:52 farvacola wrote:
With the scrutiny being given basically all hits on QBs this season, that gameplan sounds fairly awful. Lots of risk, vague and unproven reward.


In 1 game I agree. However, teams should have used this strategy in the regular season, in particular AFC North teams would stand a lot to gain by using it. Its largely what the good college teams did against Lamar.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
January 09 2020 00:13 GMT
#2342
Right, if you're going to see the team again or play against their stats later on, the reward is greater. Still seems risky.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 09 2020 00:32 GMT
#2343
On January 09 2020 09:13 farvacola wrote:
Right, if you're going to see the team again or play against their stats later on, the reward is greater. Still seems risky.


It depends on your personnel. Most teams will want Lamar to hand off more anyways, because defending the dive is easier than the QB sweep.

In a hypothetical Superbowl, the 49ers are a team that probably wouldn't employ the strategy, because their interior run defense isn't great, and they have fast linebackers. Of course, I am sure Harrison's Steelers would have tried the plan, and it works for their people, lol.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 09 2020 01:01 GMT
#2344
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
January 09 2020 06:13 GMT
#2345
Sometimes I think that we are all just floating in a soup of ideas and doomed only to repeat and regurgitate what we've swallowed, incapable of making truly original or even rare thoughts. The Youtube algorithm encapsulates this figuratively and literally.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 09 2020 19:45 GMT
#2346
Mike Leach just left WSU for Miss State
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redlightdistrict
Profile Joined October 2018
382 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-09 20:44:35
January 09 2020 20:42 GMT
#2347
Chris Simms breaks down how the Ravens puts opponents lines at a deficit before snapping the ball using motions, allowing Lamar to escape in lue of mis-matches and D-lines overcompensating.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51571 Posts
January 09 2020 21:47 GMT
#2348
On January 10 2020 04:45 Shellshock wrote:
Mike Leach just left WSU for Miss State


Definitely did not see that coming.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 10 2020 08:58 GMT
#2349
I remember watching Jake Fromm in the Netflix QB1 documentary.

He declared for the 2020 draft, It sounds like his stock dropped this year if but I think analysts and fans are giving varied reviews.

Does he get drafted high or is it someone you spend a later pick on and hope he becomes a stud.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-10 19:06:43
January 10 2020 19:04 GMT
#2350
My opinion of Josh McCown just improved dramatically, reports are saying he played through a torn hamstring during the Eggles wildcard game. If true, that’s fucking nuts, I would wager a legit hamstring tear is one of the hardest injuries to play through, similar to Achilles Tendon tears and ruptures.
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
January 10 2020 19:24 GMT
#2351
He didn't seem very mobile. Especially in the 4th qtr. I played on a torn ACL for 4 months before I knew what was wrong. Depends on the severity I suppose.

GA fans are torn on Fromm and some thinks he's the shittiest thing to happen to GA since Tecumseh.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-10 20:09:44
January 10 2020 20:05 GMT
#2352
ACL tears are a different game because they oftentimes do not compromise the mechanical function of the knee for a very long time, sometimes if ever. Hamstring tears quickly worsen and tend to immediately impact basic leg mechanics.

But yeah, you could tell something was wrong with how he hobbled back to the line.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
January 10 2020 21:45 GMT
#2353
On January 11 2020 05:05 farvacola wrote:
ACL tears are a different game because they oftentimes do not compromise the mechanical function of the knee for a very long time, sometimes if ever. Hamstring tears quickly worsen and tend to immediately impact basic leg mechanics.

But yeah, you could tell something was wrong with how he hobbled back to the line.

I mean, you can walk and shit on a torn ACL. But I would be remiss to say I was/am half of what I used to be on a field. I'm scared to make a cut or really give it all on my left knee.

Never torn a hammy though, so I only speak from my ailments.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
January 10 2020 21:49 GMT
#2354
Oh yeah, a moderate to severe ACL tear can change a person’s movement profile for life, no doubt.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51571 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-10 23:41:56
January 10 2020 23:40 GMT
#2355
On January 10 2020 17:58 KelsierSC wrote:
I remember watching Jake Fromm in the Netflix QB1 documentary.

He declared for the 2020 draft, It sounds like his stock dropped this year if but I think analysts and fans are giving varied reviews.

Does he get drafted high or is it someone you spend a later pick on and hope he becomes a stud.


Fromm is one of the most overrated QB's in this year's draft class. I don't see anything at all that makes me go "yeah, he's going to be a good QB". Carried by an amazing offense and kept up by a top tier O-Line.

He's pretty much a better Aaron Murray - if I were a GM I'd take him on day 2 somewhere, but no way he's a first round selection.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 11 2020 00:56 GMT
#2356
On January 11 2020 08:40 GTR wrote:
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On January 10 2020 17:58 KelsierSC wrote:
I remember watching Jake Fromm in the Netflix QB1 documentary.

He declared for the 2020 draft, It sounds like his stock dropped this year if but I think analysts and fans are giving varied reviews.

Does he get drafted high or is it someone you spend a later pick on and hope he becomes a stud.


Fromm is one of the most overrated QB's in this year's draft class. I don't see anything at all that makes me go "yeah, he's going to be a good QB". Carried by an amazing offense and kept up by a top tier O-Line.

He's pretty much a better Aaron Murray - if I were a GM I'd take him on day 2 somewhere, but no way he's a first round selection.

Game manager QB for sure. His ceiling is like AJ McCarron. Not a franchise QB

I’m even lower on Eason though who has terrible decision making but he HaS a BiG aRm
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 11 2020 02:51 GMT
#2357
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
January 11 2020 09:47 GMT
#2358
Clowney will not be fined for the Wentz hit.

The real story should be about how Wentz chose to go to the sideline to be examined suspecting something was wrong at the risk of being ruled out by the concussion protocol, not how he got the hit. I hope more players do the same in the future, playing through concussions is very dangerous!

Also, it wasn't like Wentz was on track to record breaking numbers when he left the game. Blaming Clowney was an easy way out for Eagles players and fans imo.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001095798/article/jadeveon-clowney-wont-be-fined-for-carson-wentz-hit
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-11 15:21:55
January 11 2020 15:17 GMT
#2359
On January 09 2020 08:52 farvacola wrote:
With the scrutiny being given basically all hits on QBs this season, that gameplan sounds fairly awful. Lots of risk, vague and unproven reward.

this is what people have been doing to Cam for years, perfectly legal. He is just difficult to hit because he is stupid fast and his ability to read what he is seeing is really underrated. His vision really masks that his throws aren't that great a lot He is really good at moving around in a way that gets guys open so he doesn't have to make particularly difficult ones. Him and his TE are particularly good at this

Rivers playing on a torn ACL was one of the most bad ass but slightly stupid things ever, i wish that dude got a ring along the way.
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redlightdistrict
Profile Joined October 2018
382 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-11 21:08:07
January 11 2020 20:12 GMT
#2360
SF should have this game on lock. Cousins on the road vs this D-line doesn't bode all that well for a team used to playing in the cold.
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