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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
August 28 2018 01:29 GMT
#361
Dam I was hoping the Mou 3rd season curse didn't come to United

But I watched the highlights and at least we created a good number of chances. Will put faith in Mou to turn this around.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
August 28 2018 01:35 GMT
#362
'United fans don't read' Jose Mourinho 2018

You heard it here first.

To be fair he was trying to say that United fans don't read the stupid stuff the media write to the journalist asking questions. But since he was making a dumb unnecessary attack on the journalist that to his credit even tried to give Mourniho a chance to go back on hist statement that 'United fans don't read'. I think we can take it out of context and laugh at it. You lost 0:3 at home to a team you traditionally beat. I don't care if you think you should have won the game you didn't. You can't get angry with the media for asking negative questions after you get thrashed. They're hardly going to praise your team even if the performance was OK. You got thrashed.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8711 Posts
August 28 2018 03:01 GMT
#363
zidane will be our manager by christmas
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
August 28 2018 09:43 GMT
#364


this is really depressing to listen to
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-28 12:35:49
August 28 2018 12:15 GMT
#365
On August 28 2018 10:29 Dante08 wrote:
Dam I was hoping the Mou 3rd season curse didn't come to United

But I watched the highlights and at least we created a good number of chances. Will put faith in Mou to turn this around.


To be fair, Mou's third seasons are usually characterized by a lot of infighting and him losing the dressing room. United just suck haha.

On August 28 2018 18:43 GTR wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YFEwTa_DjU

this is really depressing to listen to


Wow thanks for that. Really good listen.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-28 15:12:21
August 28 2018 15:11 GMT
#366
Interesting, why officials are trying hard to avoid VAR in upcoming UCL season saying the system is too fresh? To me it looks weird, VAR is a great tool for avoiding critical mistakes.
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18478 Posts
August 28 2018 15:33 GMT
#367
On August 29 2018 00:11 Dav1oN wrote:
Interesting, why officials are trying hard to avoid VAR in upcoming UCL season saying the system is too fresh? To me it looks weird, VAR is a great tool for avoiding critical mistakes.


It stops income for them
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 28 2018 19:34 GMT
#368
Woodward destroying Yanited, making them tons of money but not spending it on Mourinho targets as he deems them not Yanited worthy. Hilarious.

They weren't mega bad last night but were punished a lot. Spurs in the first half also could have gotten punished if Lukaku can score open goals etc. Mourinho team who cannot defend is not a Mourinho team. Lindelof is not a professional footballer, he is straight up awful. Smalling and Jones together in first half looked "ok" but when Jones went off and Lindelof comes on it was just awful.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
August 28 2018 20:39 GMT
#369
lindelof was fine in the world cup though. i think just playing for mourinho has completely shattered his confidence.
maybe also he's got a bit of david luiz syndrome atm too.
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
August 28 2018 22:31 GMT
#370
On August 29 2018 00:11 Dav1oN wrote:
Interesting, why officials are trying hard to avoid VAR in upcoming UCL season saying the system is too fresh? To me it looks weird, VAR is a great tool for avoiding critical mistakes.


This is the thing that continues to blow me away.

There is simply no credible argument against VAR. How often does VAR make the wrong call? I can't even think of a single instance that I've seen in the Bundesliga or World Cup. If it does happen, it's obscenely rare and the amount of corrections that VAR allows makes the mistaken calls completely insignificant. VAR may miss calls or take too long sometimes, but these aren't reasons to not use VAR. These are reasons to improve the process. As it stands, any league with VAR is simply better than a league without by virtue of the fact that the integrity of the game is much, much higher.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
August 28 2018 23:25 GMT
#371
On August 29 2018 07:31 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2018 00:11 Dav1oN wrote:
Interesting, why officials are trying hard to avoid VAR in upcoming UCL season saying the system is too fresh? To me it looks weird, VAR is a great tool for avoiding critical mistakes.


This is the thing that continues to blow me away.

There is simply no credible argument against VAR. How often does VAR make the wrong call? I can't even think of a single instance that I've seen in the Bundesliga or World Cup. If it does happen, it's obscenely rare and the amount of corrections that VAR allows makes the mistaken calls completely insignificant. VAR may miss calls or take too long sometimes, but these aren't reasons to not use VAR. These are reasons to improve the process. As it stands, any league with VAR is simply better than a league without by virtue of the fact that the integrity of the game is much, much higher.


VAR is a tool, it cannot make a wrong call. It is up to ref to fail anyway.

VAR played a key role in correct decision making in a few episodes of La Liga match between Espanyol v Valencia.

It is working no doubt -_-
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-29 09:32:30
August 29 2018 09:27 GMT
#372
On August 29 2018 05:39 GTR wrote:
lindelof was fine in the world cup though. i think just playing for mourinho has completely shattered his confidence.
maybe also he's got a bit of david luiz syndrome atm too.


I mean look at this. All three people in front of him are moving towards the exact same space haha. The positional play is just awful. Granted Lindelof should have just played the ball out wide, but when you're down on confidence your field of view becomes rather narrow.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28695 Posts
August 29 2018 15:25 GMT
#373
On August 29 2018 07:31 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2018 00:11 Dav1oN wrote:
Interesting, why officials are trying hard to avoid VAR in upcoming UCL season saying the system is too fresh? To me it looks weird, VAR is a great tool for avoiding critical mistakes.


This is the thing that continues to blow me away.

There is simply no credible argument against VAR. How often does VAR make the wrong call? I can't even think of a single instance that I've seen in the Bundesliga or World Cup. If it does happen, it's obscenely rare and the amount of corrections that VAR allows makes the mistaken calls completely insignificant. VAR may miss calls or take too long sometimes, but these aren't reasons to not use VAR. These are reasons to improve the process. As it stands, any league with VAR is simply better than a league without by virtue of the fact that the integrity of the game is much, much higher.


There were several wrong calls in the world cup imo, even after using var, probably something like 5 consequential ones total. But even so there's no question that the frequency is greatly decreased, so I agree with your general point. However it's not gonna make all controversial cases go away. The world cup made me a fan, too.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28695 Posts
August 29 2018 15:26 GMT
#374
On August 29 2018 18:27 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2018 05:39 GTR wrote:
lindelof was fine in the world cup though. i think just playing for mourinho has completely shattered his confidence.
maybe also he's got a bit of david luiz syndrome atm too.


I mean look at this. All three people in front of him are moving towards the exact same space haha. The positional play is just awful. Granted Lindelof should have just played the ball out wide, but when you're down on confidence your field of view becomes rather narrow.


That is just plain horrid haha
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 29 2018 16:18 GMT
#375
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1973 Posts
August 29 2018 16:34 GMT
#376
On August 29 2018 18:27 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2018 05:39 GTR wrote:
lindelof was fine in the world cup though. i think just playing for mourinho has completely shattered his confidence.
maybe also he's got a bit of david luiz syndrome atm too.


I mean look at this. All three people in front of him are moving towards the exact same space haha. The positional play is just awful. Granted Lindelof should have just played the ball out wide, but when you're down on confidence your field of view becomes rather narrow.

It didn't help at all that they played Herrera as CB for the first 55 minutes or so. Spurs' 2nd goal was him first him allowing Tottenham play the attack onside and right after failing either to intercept the cross or to block the shot.

He's not a natural CB, so it's kind of hard to blame him too much. However, having him there definitely doesn't help at all if your defense is already feeling shaky from bad results and roster and formation changes.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-29 17:45:45
August 29 2018 17:45 GMT
#377
Mourinho is one defeat away from being sacked according to Man Utd tv sources. £15 million payoff awaits him too.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-29 18:59:20
August 29 2018 18:10 GMT
#378
On August 30 2018 02:45 Pandemona wrote:
Mourinho is one defeat away from being sacked according to Man Utd tv sources. £15 million payoff awaits him too.

Next two PL games are away vs Burnley and away vs Watford. Watford has been really good so far and Burley might not be a walk over either if last season is anything to go by.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 29 2018 18:17 GMT
#379
Also its Burnley into two week international break before Watford as well.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 29 2018 18:28 GMT
#380
On August 29 2018 07:31 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2018 00:11 Dav1oN wrote:
Interesting, why officials are trying hard to avoid VAR in upcoming UCL season saying the system is too fresh? To me it looks weird, VAR is a great tool for avoiding critical mistakes.


This is the thing that continues to blow me away.

There is simply no credible argument against VAR. How often does VAR make the wrong call? I can't even think of a single instance that I've seen in the Bundesliga or World Cup. If it does happen, it's obscenely rare and the amount of corrections that VAR allows makes the mistaken calls completely insignificant. VAR may miss calls or take too long sometimes, but these aren't reasons to not use VAR. These are reasons to improve the process. As it stands, any league with VAR is simply better than a league without by virtue of the fact that the integrity of the game is much, much higher.

World cup final penalty... Griezmann simulation leading to a freekick leading to a goal, already two times the VAR fucked up in the most important game of those last 4 years. Also Griezmann penalty against Australia.

Nîmes Marseille, Guinguamp PSG and I've barely watched any ligue 1 game since the start of the season.

It's slowing down the game a ton, it leads to anticlimatic goals, it's ruining the fun. It's very very far from being black and white as you describe it.

I was initially in favor of VAR but the more I see it in action, the less I like it. I'm willing to give it a few years of refinement but I hope the governing bodies will at least take the time to properly assess if it's worth keeping or not. If it were to stay as it is right now, it would be a big no for a lot of football fans.
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