EPT2018 - 2019 Football Thread - Page 187
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10014 Posts
On April 18 2019 06:23 sharkie wrote: Also which central defender will be bought next by City. Their defense is definitely liability when it is tested Perhaps they need a replacement for Fernandinho for the extra protection. Its been a theme this season - giving away ridiculous goals when Fernandinho isn't playing. Gundogan just can't do that role effectively. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
https://www.marca.com/futbol/champions-league/2019/04/16/5cb5e4beca4741937e8b45a7.html Especially when it's obvious that that's exactly what the fans, owners, board, etc... wants let alone considering howuch he is allowed to spend every year But whatever, I'm kinda trolling and making fun of the situation because it's fun (but this last part is kinda serious) | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On April 18 2019 06:22 Rebs wrote: To be fair All of those 3 were insane today. So while I am a massive Sane fan, I cant really fault the picks. Its not like they didnt score enough goals. Atleast today anyway. Gundogan is the only one i can doubt, guy is way to slow moving the ball for City and offers little defensively compared to Fernandinho who was on the bench so i guess Pep deemed "not fit enough". That shouldn't be a case in this level, he is either fit for the game or not. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
On April 18 2019 06:26 WillyWanker wrote: Their defense is fine. Could be a bit improved, but the way they play, defenders are bound to make those mistakes. People were saying Piqué is a bad defender before, now that the team plays more defensive, he's amazing. I still don't think Pique is an amazing defender. Ter Stegen is totally the MVP of that Barca team. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
Real Chelsea United City Juventus (?) Spurs (?) Arsenal (?) | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
On April 18 2019 06:27 sharkie wrote: I still don't think Pique is an amazing defender. Ter Stegen is totally the MVP of that Barca team. To each their own. He's the best defender in the world for a team like Barça. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
Juventus might need defenders, I dont know are Juve CBs retiring this season? Real should be fine too imo, their problem is Casemiro and Kroos, not their CBs The rest all need CBs yeah lol | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
Five years ago everyone would have wanted and loved two John Stones in their team. Nowadays even Pep favours Kompany instead of Stones | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On April 18 2019 06:27 sneirac wrote: Oh this is much more fun topic, can we make a list of all teams that desperately need defenders? Market should be nuts, no wonder there was as 120m rumour for Koulibaly or whatever his name is Real Chelsea United City Juventus (?) Spurs (?) Arsenal (?) Bayern probably aswell since Hernandez seems to be a proper Bayern player already (injured) | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
On April 18 2019 06:33 WillyWanker wrote: Possession football is getting 'countered' (in knockout games only) by fast transition teams. Those teams need a different type of CBs. End of story. I dont think its only being countered in knockout games... Liverpool and Arsenal have improved so much with their acquisitions of van Dijk and Sokratis | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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stilt
France2755 Posts
On April 18 2019 06:26 Faruko wrote: I say it's pretty scummy and kinda spits on City fans when a day or 2 before the match with Tottenham he comes out to say that he wasn't brought to City to win the UCL", is he really taking the pressure of him VERSUS TOTTENHAM!?!? https://www.marca.com/futbol/champions-league/2019/04/16/5cb5e4beca4741937e8b45a7.html Especially when it's obvious that that's exactly what the fans, owners, board, etc... wants let alone considering howuch he is allowed to spend every year But whatever, I'm kinda trolling and making fun of the situation because it's fun (but this last part is kinda serious) The loss was rather cruel, that's football, you're supposed to recognize it as a fan but as you say, you're trolling. As for the communication of the coach, team, players, that's bs as always. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28911 Posts
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
On April 18 2019 06:45 Liquid`Drone wrote: possession based football is better at consistently beating inferior teams. But between games where the player material is balanced, other styles seem just as successful. Consequentially possession based teams perform better in a league setting (or CL group stage) where more games are against worse opponents. I'm not sure. There aren't enough teams that can play good possession football to say if it's more or less successful against other big teams. For example, Barcelona has a crazy high win rate against Madrid. City overall has a high win rate against top English teams (some of those teams not as good as City though). More often than not, possession wins. Not as much difference as vs weaker teams for sure, but still that's my feeling. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On April 18 2019 06:50 WillyWanker wrote: I'm not sure. There aren't enough teams that can play good possession football to say if it's more or less successful against other big teams. For example, Barcelona has a crazy high win rate against Madrid. City overall has a high win rate against top English teams (some of those teams not as good as City though). More often than not, possession wins. Not as much difference as vs weaker teams for sure, but still that's my feeling. I agree thats been the general trend since the Italians were good, the obvious Exception is Madrid who kinda just "went out and played" and managed to just outskill or be more clinical consistently enough when it mattered in the CL (and a healthy dose of luck and give aways). Most teams that win even the CL are better with the ball than without it, which is a rather stupidly obvious thing to say but I guess is worth repeating. Then again, with the Real example having the ability to invite pressure and counter is clearly exceptionally valuable. And I guess in a way thats a good thing. The converse is not waiting to invite pressure and counter deeper which is what the Pep and Dortmund/Liverpool method is. But thats so hard to do. A big reason why for example that this Barcelona team doesnt feel that great because they cant play that way as consistently as they used to, they are more willing to chuck balls forward, and sit deeper, the reliance on player quality and the level of coaching is too high to play like they used, although if you look at the results you cant really fault much so far the last two years. And at the end of the day regardless of how much money, homework, prep and quality is involved. If you make mistakes people will hurt you and we saw that today. And thats fine to, they are human beings they will make mistakes. Sometimes they will make them often enough to not be successful for a while in certain situations, sometimes others will be better. Again thats normal. its disappointing and some criticism is warranted but a coaches job is to put his teams in the best possible position to succeed with the highest probably possible. Thats literally the most he can do. No coach can budget for missed penalties, massive defensive errors/give aways against quality opposition and I guess "VAR" xD. The other thing that people rail about which is "money" is that its not like that money is being spent efficiently. The diminishing returns on the amount of money spent on players as the market currently is is quite high. But that doesnt mean if you have it you shouldnt use it right ? Because the bottom line isnt about Money, its about making decisions that you think will put you in the best position to succeed. Its not a guarantee either obviouslyso unless you are a complete failure and dropping 12-15 games a season and not at all competitive theres on reason to be critical in terms of a decision making process. That its stupid how much money is spent for a variety of other reasons is another matter. The margins after a certain point are so thin. And I think if you were to judge Pep by that sort of yardstick and keeping these things in mind he passes quite well. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28911 Posts
 )And indeed Guardiola has a record of 5 wins 7 losses (2 draws) against klopp teams - and this while managing teams that had superior squads. *(possible exception for starting 11 this season, but this season city has 1 win 1 draw anyway. )I mean I agree that the sample size is too small to conclude anything. | ||
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