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sharkie
Austria18418 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6934 Posts
On April 18 2019 07:29 Liquid`Drone wrote: My personal impression is that the pep style possession based football is vulnerable to klopp type of counterpressing followed by swift attacks. (I don't think it's vulnerable to chelsea style park the bus, that impression is just caused by high profile games and variance, imo. ![]() And indeed Guardiola has a record of 5 wins 7 losses (2 draws) against klopp teams - and this while managing teams that had superior squads. *(possible exception for starting 11 this season, but this season city has 1 win 1 draw anyway. ![]() I mean I agree that the sample size is too small to conclude anything. That is just cause Klopp > Pep, Pellegrini, everyone else ![]() And I think you are absolutely right. Possession game ruled for over 10 years until this fast counterpressure style became popular (some 4 years ago I guess?) Just look at Barca and Munich or Spanish and German nationalteams from 2002 - 2014 EDIT: I did not look up stats, this is just from the top of my head ![]() | ||
KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On April 18 2019 06:27 sharkie wrote: I still don't think Pique is an amazing defender. Ter Stegen is totally the MVP of that Barca team. Outch...do you mean of that defense or the actual Barça team? I reckon there is a certain guy upfront that could pontentially be considered the mvp of the team some yards ahead of even the mighty ter stegen no? | ||
sharkie
Austria18418 Posts
On April 18 2019 22:08 KobraKay wrote: Outch...do you mean of that defense or the actual Barça team? I reckon there is a certain guy upfront that could pontentially be considered the mvp of the team some yards ahead of even the mighty ter stegen no? At that time I actually thought only of the defense. But when I think about it Ter Stegen definitely plays as vital a role as Messi does. Messi could score 2 goals every game but what use would that have if they conceded 3+ goals every game? Messi definitely isnt hardcarrying Barca alone, Ter Stegen is definitely very important too | ||
Harris1st
Germany6934 Posts
On April 18 2019 22:08 KobraKay wrote: Outch...do you mean of that defense or the actual Barça team? I reckon there is a certain guy upfront that could pontentially be considered the mvp of the team some yards ahead of even the mighty ter stegen no? Pretty sure he meant the defending part of Barca ![]() IMO De Gea just showed us why Ter Stegen is the best Goalie in the world right now | ||
haitike
Spain2714 Posts
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Bacillus
Finland1943 Posts
On April 18 2019 23:30 haitike wrote: In my opinion Ter Stegen and Oblak are the best goalkeepers right now. Ter Stegen is better with footplay but Oblak reflexes are insane. Those strengths are probably also speaking for the roles in the teams. Atletico needs those saves whereas Barca (still, I guess) likes their possession. | ||
Dingodile
4133 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4728 Posts
On April 19 2019 04:39 Dingodile wrote: no VAR in EL at all? Frankfurt 1-0 with 1meter offside goal VAR will be there only in the finals. Very lucky for Frankfurt... this is how it used to be all the time, back in the day (read: 2018) :-) | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
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Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18418 Posts
On April 19 2019 04:49 Pandemona wrote: Jesus Slavia Prague are bad how on earth is Sevilla losing to this crap lol. the same way Chelsea could lose this yet, complacency | ||
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Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Oh well, we are second english side to 100 goals this season and just broke the Europa League record so it isn't all that bad, we were never losing that game but it was sure as hell crap performance. | ||
HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
![]() Matthijs de Ligt and Luis Suarez | ||
Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
As a United fan I have a brilliant idea, Chlesea finish 6th and wins Europa, Spurs finish 5th and wins CL, Arsenal finish 3rd and 4th respectively. Everyone wins ![]() | ||
Greg_J
China4409 Posts
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