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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9660 Posts
April 17 2019 21:11 GMT
#3701
On April 18 2019 06:09 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 06:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 18 2019 05:59 Faruko wrote:
So since he left Barcelona, Guardiola doew what teams have been doing for years (win the league and failing at UCL) but wasting millions and millions more than before

Good coach (?)


He has improved City so much I have no idea why you would even say that to be honest.
They were a couple of razor fine decisions from going through tonight, and its not really Pep's fault.

Pellegrini got to SF with City years ago


Once again, if you only judge teams on their CHampions League results you will have a very warped view on which teams are good.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-17 21:14:14
April 17 2019 21:12 GMT
#3702
On April 18 2019 06:11 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 06:09 Faruko wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 18 2019 05:59 Faruko wrote:
So since he left Barcelona, Guardiola doew what teams have been doing for years (win the league and failing at UCL) but wasting millions and millions more than before

Good coach (?)


He has improved City so much I have no idea why you would even say that to be honest.
They were a couple of razor fine decisions from going through tonight, and its not really Pep's fault.

Pellegrini got to SF with City years ago


Once again, if you only judge teams on their CHampions League results you will have a very warped view on which teams are good.

Pellegrini has the same amount of trophies in home soil that Guardiola has, ok Guardiola won a Community Shield (?)

And same time frame if I'm not wrong 🤔
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18418 Posts
April 17 2019 21:12 GMT
#3703
On April 18 2019 06:11 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 06:09 Faruko wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 18 2019 05:59 Faruko wrote:
So since he left Barcelona, Guardiola doew what teams have been doing for years (win the league and failing at UCL) but wasting millions and millions more than before

Good coach (?)


He has improved City so much I have no idea why you would even say that to be honest.
They were a couple of razor fine decisions from going through tonight, and its not really Pep's fault.

Pellegrini got to SF with City years ago


Once again, if you only judge teams on their CHampions League results you will have a very warped view on which teams are good.


What has Pep won more than Pellegrini in the same time span?
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9660 Posts
April 17 2019 21:14 GMT
#3704
On April 18 2019 06:12 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 06:11 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:09 Faruko wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 18 2019 05:59 Faruko wrote:
So since he left Barcelona, Guardiola doew what teams have been doing for years (win the league and failing at UCL) but wasting millions and millions more than before

Good coach (?)


He has improved City so much I have no idea why you would even say that to be honest.
They were a couple of razor fine decisions from going through tonight, and its not really Pep's fault.

Pellegrini got to SF with City years ago


Once again, if you only judge teams on their CHampions League results you will have a very warped view on which teams are good.


What has Pep won more than Pellegrini in the same time span?


Ask again at the end of the season.
RIP Meatloaf <3
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
April 17 2019 21:14 GMT
#3705
You guys are just pathetic. Snapping on every occasion to do that. I wonder where you were hiding at 4-2.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18418 Posts
April 17 2019 21:15 GMT
#3706
On April 18 2019 06:14 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 06:12 sharkie wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:11 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:09 Faruko wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 18 2019 05:59 Faruko wrote:
So since he left Barcelona, Guardiola doew what teams have been doing for years (win the league and failing at UCL) but wasting millions and millions more than before

Good coach (?)


He has improved City so much I have no idea why you would even say that to be honest.
They were a couple of razor fine decisions from going through tonight, and its not really Pep's fault.

Pellegrini got to SF with City years ago


Once again, if you only judge teams on their CHampions League results you will have a very warped view on which teams are good.


What has Pep won more than Pellegrini in the same time span?


Ask again at the end of the season.


Will you join me making fun of me when he loses the PL to liverpool?
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
April 17 2019 21:15 GMT
#3707
On April 18 2019 06:12 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 06:11 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:09 Faruko wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 18 2019 05:59 Faruko wrote:
So since he left Barcelona, Guardiola doew what teams have been doing for years (win the league and failing at UCL) but wasting millions and millions more than before

Good coach (?)


He has improved City so much I have no idea why you would even say that to be honest.
They were a couple of razor fine decisions from going through tonight, and its not really Pep's fault.

Pellegrini got to SF with City years ago


Once again, if you only judge teams on their CHampions League results you will have a very warped view on which teams are good.


What has Pep won more than Pellegrini in the same time span?

Pellegrini didn't face an incredible Liverpool sqad for example, so who cares
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
April 17 2019 21:15 GMT
#3708
On April 18 2019 06:10 WillyWanker wrote:
Don't feed the trolls. If they're not trolling, they're hopeless.


What he said.. their is no objectivity in people who are going to make these sorts of comments every time theres a loss. As if losing isnt a normal part of the game.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
April 17 2019 21:15 GMT
#3709
On April 18 2019 06:12 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 06:11 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:09 Faruko wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 18 2019 05:59 Faruko wrote:
So since he left Barcelona, Guardiola doew what teams have been doing for years (win the league and failing at UCL) but wasting millions and millions more than before

Good coach (?)


He has improved City so much I have no idea why you would even say that to be honest.
They were a couple of razor fine decisions from going through tonight, and its not really Pep's fault.

Pellegrini got to SF with City years ago


Once again, if you only judge teams on their CHampions League results you will have a very warped view on which teams are good.


What has Pep won more than Pellegrini in the same time span?

When did Pep lose the league to Leicester?
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18418 Posts
April 17 2019 21:16 GMT
#3710
On April 18 2019 06:14 WillyWanker wrote:
You guys are just pathetic. Snapping on every occasion to do that. I wonder where you were hiding at 4-2.


I actually even snap on him when he wins so I am allowed to when he loses
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9660 Posts
April 17 2019 21:16 GMT
#3711
On April 18 2019 06:15 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 06:14 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:12 sharkie wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:11 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:09 Faruko wrote:
On April 18 2019 06:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 18 2019 05:59 Faruko wrote:
So since he left Barcelona, Guardiola doew what teams have been doing for years (win the league and failing at UCL) but wasting millions and millions more than before

Good coach (?)


He has improved City so much I have no idea why you would even say that to be honest.
They were a couple of razor fine decisions from going through tonight, and its not really Pep's fault.

Pellegrini got to SF with City years ago


Once again, if you only judge teams on their CHampions League results you will have a very warped view on which teams are good.


What has Pep won more than Pellegrini in the same time span?


Ask again at the end of the season.


Will you join me making fun of me when he loses the PL to liverpool?


Nah, I'll be to busy lauding his FA cup win over all you weirdo haters :D
RIP Meatloaf <3
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
April 17 2019 21:17 GMT
#3712
On April 18 2019 06:16 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 06:14 WillyWanker wrote:
You guys are just pathetic. Snapping on every occasion to do that. I wonder where you were hiding at 4-2.


I actually even snap on him when he wins so I am allowed to when he loses

Never change sharkie haha.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28675 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-17 21:22:05
April 17 2019 21:18 GMT
#3713
even if it's not reflected in CL trophies (a miserable metric due to how much coincidences influence games between top teams and CL format is a knockout format between top teams), City has clearly improved a fantastic amount since pep became manager.

3 seasons before pep chronologically:
win, 86 points, second 79 points, fourth 66 points
3 seasons with pep chronologically:
third, 78 points, first 100 points (5 points better than previous PL record, best team of the premier league era), and then this season they are en route to another 95+ point season..

While the CL is arguably more prestigious, I strongly maintain that league performance is a more important metric when evaluating how good a team is, and he's given them a 15 point per season boost. And if you watch them play multiple league games, the improvement is self-evident. City's top level and consistency are both fantastic. But, other top teams are also very good..

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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
April 17 2019 21:18 GMT
#3714
On April 18 2019 06:15 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 06:10 WillyWanker wrote:
Don't feed the trolls. If they're not trolling, they're hopeless.


What he said.. their is no objectivity in people who are going to make these sorts of comments every time theres a loss. As if losing isnt a normal part of the game.

Come on, Pep told Laporte to suck and he also told the ref last season to give 2 50/50 offside decisions without VAR to Pool and then rob City of another goal :p
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-17 21:19:33
April 17 2019 21:19 GMT
#3715
That VAR offside call is so freaking harsh.
Ajax vs Spurs. I would love to know the odds on that one before the CL season started.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18418 Posts
April 17 2019 21:19 GMT
#3716
But now a serious question: does anyone know why Pep refused to play one of City's best players this season, Sane?
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-17 21:20:12
April 17 2019 21:19 GMT
#3717
On April 18 2019 06:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:
even if it's not reflected in CL trophies (a miserable metric due to how much coincidences influence games between top teams and CL format is a knockout format between top teams), City has clearly improved a fantastic amount since pep became manager.

3 seasons before pep chronologically:
win, 86 points, second 79 points, fourth 66 points
3 seasons with pep chronologically:
third, 78 points, first 100 points (5 points better than previous PL record, best team of the premier league era), and then this season they are en route to a 95+ point season, which was the record for most points gotten in PL before last season.

While the CL is arguably more prestigious, I strongly maintain that league performance is a more important metric when evaluating how good a team is, and he's given them a 15 point per season boost. And if you watch them play multiple league games, the improvement is self-evident. City's top level and consistency are both fantastic. But, other top teams are also very good..



and theres a team that has 3 CL trophies back to back and nobody thought they were that good then or now. Knockout football is weird. Which is why I guess its so much fun.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9660 Posts
April 17 2019 21:20 GMT
#3718
On April 18 2019 06:19 sharkie wrote:
But now a serious question: does anyone know why Pep refused to play one of City's best players this season, Sane?


Because Sterling and, Silva, Bernado Silva have all been in amazing form week in, week out. Sane is hot/cold.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-17 21:22:25
April 17 2019 21:22 GMT
#3719
To be fair All of those 3 were insane today. So while I am a massive Sane fan, I cant really fault the picks.

Its not like they didnt score enough goals. Atleast today anyway.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
April 17 2019 21:22 GMT
#3720
On April 18 2019 06:19 sharkie wrote:
But now a serious question: does anyone know why Pep refused to play one of City's best players this season, Sane?

Considering City scored 4 goals that were given by the ref I don't think that Sane missing was their problem, it was conceding dumb goals.

Scoring 4 goals in a CL quarter final against a good team is pretty great in my opinion.
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