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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
September 29 2017 10:20 GMT
#1581
On September 29 2017 18:50 Pandemona wrote:
What is German media saying this morning about Bayern job btw? Is Tuchel got a chance to get the job "soon" ? Or are they all saying Naglesmann is the man next summer?


Bayern statement:
- Want to have a decision (decision doesn't necessarily mean a new coach right away, but just a decision how to proceed) by the end of the international games period.

Mainstream media:
- by logic and availability Tuchel gets the job now

Biggest rumour with some shady sources:
- Mehmet Scholl gets the job until end of the season, assisted by Gerland, the head of the Bayern academy

Other speculation:
- Sagnol may keep the job until season end if he convinces now
- I saw Luis Enrique mentioned, but never more reasoning than "he would be available"
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2118 Posts
September 29 2017 10:37 GMT
#1582
On September 29 2017 19:20 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 18:50 Pandemona wrote:
What is German media saying this morning about Bayern job btw? Is Tuchel got a chance to get the job "soon" ? Or are they all saying Naglesmann is the man next summer?

- I saw Luis Enrique mentioned, but never more reasoning than "he would be available"

Starting a lineage of ex-Barcelona managers would be quite surprising and interesting.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 12:00:33
September 29 2017 11:36 GMT
#1583
On September 29 2017 19:20 mahrgell wrote:
Mehmet Scholl gets the job until end of the season, assisted by Gerland, the head of the Bayern academy

Scholl couldn't do anything with the reserve team back when he was in charge there and hasn't managed a team in years, he's nowhere near ready to coach Bayern, especially internationally. I'm not sure even Gerland could carry this to success.

Then I'd rather they let Sagnol do it, at least his experience at Bordeaux was somewhat recent and he knows all the players. But frankly I think Tuchel would actually fit in rather well. He's supposedly a 'difficult personality', but he seems to be more of the Guardiola-type of difficult, which Bayern handled fairly well for 3 years.

Also if he goes to Bayern he'll stay in the Bundesliga, which is cool, but not at one of the chaotic mid tier clubs he's been linked with over the years.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 29 2017 12:37 GMT
#1584
Plus with Tuchel, it was "transfer dealings" which seem to been the issue at Dortmund. Im sure that wouldn't be much of an issue at Bayern due to having a very good squad already too? He will probably have a bigger voice in transfer dealings too maybe? With more money available
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28912 Posts
September 29 2017 12:50 GMT
#1585


That's exactly what I was talking about! he does stuff like this all the time.
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TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 12:59:48
September 29 2017 12:52 GMT
#1586
On September 29 2017 21:37 Pandemona wrote:
Plus with Tuchel, it was "transfer dealings" which seem to been the issue at Dortmund. Im sure that wouldn't be much of an issue at Bayern due to having a very good squad already too? He will probably have a bigger voice in transfer dealings too maybe? With more money available


I've read sources that Tuchel is a difficult character. He behaved like an asshole towards some players and also he and the management didn't get along with each other on a personal level, transfers had nothing to do with it. He also had some similar problems at Mainz 05.

However, Tuchel would still be the logical step. He is availabe, he is german and he is a very competent coach. The one person he got along with very well was Guardiola. He wanted Tuchel to be his successor at Bayern.

The problem is that our board, Hoeneß and Rumenigge (especially Hoeneß), have their own head on how to run things and I fear that it's just a question of time until they and Tuchel would get at each others throats, considering Tuchels past.

A lot of fans want Nagelsmann instead of Tuchel, because he is the more likeable guy. Nagelsmann himself stated that he'd love to train Bayern, also he is from the munich area. However, he is just 29 and I don't think he can handle alot of overpayed stars. Also he is not available ofc and we would have to pay alot of money for a risk.

All other candidates are not realistic imo.

For the last ~6 years we had a rather calm athmosphere here at Bayern and now its really uncertain times ahead of us.
Not used to it anymore.
Respect my authoritah!!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 29 2017 13:12 GMT
#1587
Ohhh i see, so Tuchel is an interesting character and if Pep likes him, maybe they are both as mad as eachother!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 13:39:02
September 29 2017 13:38 GMT
#1588
Nagelsmann is a likable guy and a good coach, but right now I don't think he's ready yet. In Hoffenheim, he managed to far exceed expectations (though they're disappointing in Euro League now, even getting there was a dream for Hoffenheim). But expectations at Bayern are much higher, the players are 'stars' with a lot more ego.

Nagelsmann to me is more like the guy who should coach Bayern in a few years when he has more experience (especially with coaching teams on the international, i.e. Champion's League level).
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
September 29 2017 14:16 GMT
#1589
On September 29 2017 03:42 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 02:09 city42 wrote:
On September 29 2017 01:09 Skynx wrote:
Fatih Terim is available, so is Alan Pardew. Hmmm decisions decisions...

'Arry is also available after being sacked by Birmingham through no fault of his own, as usual.

Would pay money to see 'Arry manage Bayern, like holy crap that would be amazing

Maybe he'll get Muller to fackin' run around a bit.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2118 Posts
September 29 2017 16:25 GMT
#1590
Pogba is apparently out quite a while with some kind of hamstring injury. That's another 100 million euro player sidelined.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 29 2017 18:12 GMT
#1591
On September 29 2017 23:16 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 03:42 Pandemona wrote:
On September 29 2017 02:09 city42 wrote:
On September 29 2017 01:09 Skynx wrote:
Fatih Terim is available, so is Alan Pardew. Hmmm decisions decisions...

'Arry is also available after being sacked by Birmingham through no fault of his own, as usual.

Would pay money to see 'Arry manage Bayern, like holy crap that would be amazing

Maybe he'll get Muller to fackin' run around a bit.

Haha, you can imagine it, absolutely awesome!

Transfer deadline day, see Harry zooming on the Autobahn with his window down doing deals xD
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TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 18:18:35
September 29 2017 18:17 GMT
#1592
On September 29 2017 22:12 Pandemona wrote:
Ohhh i see, so Tuchel is an interesting character and if Pep likes him, maybe they are both as mad as eachother!


Theres a really interesting video (in german) in which he explains the way he is coaching (dating back to his time at Mainz). For example what kinda rules he establishes for him and the players, the way he is analyzing the opponent and how he wants the players to understand what he is thinking so that they execute his playstyle without thinking too much.

He is a very analytical mind and a perfectionist, probably also very strict about his rules. Kinda how I also imagine Pep to be. Also he sometimes gives cringy interviews.
Respect my authoritah!!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 21:14:05
September 29 2017 18:19 GMT
#1593
Sport Bild reports Bayern have at the very least contacted Tuchel already and that he's the clear favorite to take over as head coach, and there have been speculations about Nagelsmann for a while now. Some very minor speculations about Klopp, too.

It seems that Bayern have 2 very clear main candidates, and that they are just weighing their options - take Tuchel now, or take Nagelsmann next year? Maybe a 3rd, more out there option exists with Klopp, who'd also not be available until next year.

Although Klopp's style doesn't fit Bayern, really.

In other news, Bayern's financial director lost a finger in an accident while he was hunting with a friend.

E: Apparently Tuchel already flew to Munich today to start negotiations. Somewhat questionable report though since he has a residence in Munich.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
September 30 2017 12:00 GMT
#1594
Harry Kane doing his best to raise expectation so that england can improve the level of disappointment at the next world cup
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28912 Posts
September 30 2017 12:15 GMT
#1595
11 goals in 6 matches for Tottenham in September. So far!
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 30 2017 13:23 GMT
#1596
It is not even funny anymore how Kane destroys the competition.
Off-season = best season
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
September 30 2017 13:35 GMT
#1597
On September 30 2017 22:23 Redox wrote:
It is not even funny anymore how Kane destroys the competition.


only away from wembley
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 30 2017 15:12 GMT
#1598
On September 30 2017 21:00 Mafe wrote:
Harry Kane doing his best to raise expectation so that england can improve the level of disappointment at the next world cup

It the same, Lampard Gerrard situation, had arguably 2 best CM in the game of football period. Put England shirt on, one played like shit, other played mediocre because we had managers who had no tactical nous it seems xD
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
September 30 2017 15:18 GMT
#1599
On October 01 2017 00:12 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 21:00 Mafe wrote:
Harry Kane doing his best to raise expectation so that england can improve the level of disappointment at the next world cup

It the same, Lampard Gerrard situation, had arguably 2 best CM in the game of football period. Put England shirt on, one played like shit, other played mediocre because we had managers who had no tactical nous it seems xD


Gerrard was always one of the best players for England...
Lampard sucked yes
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4201 Posts
September 30 2017 15:37 GMT
#1600
On October 01 2017 00:12 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 21:00 Mafe wrote:
Harry Kane doing his best to raise expectation so that england can improve the level of disappointment at the next world cup

It the same, Lampard Gerrard situation, had arguably 2 best CM in the game of football period. Put England shirt on, one played like shit, other played mediocre because we had managers who had no tactical nous it seems xD


They are good but cmon 2 best CM in the game of football?
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