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Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
October 01 2017 22:39 GMT
#1621
On October 01 2017 22:25 sharkie wrote:
Kagawa most scoring Japanese player in the Bundesliga now! :D
His goal yesterday was beautiful

It was magnificent to watch
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 01:49:19
October 02 2017 01:42 GMT
#1622
On October 02 2017 03:45 sneirac wrote:
unorthodox red card in france: https://streamable.com/c5bp3


Coach: Why were you banished Marcelo?
Marcelo: It's a longo taleo buta small part of it would be mesa... clumsy.
Coach: You were banished because you were clumsy?
Marcelo: Yousa might'n be sayin dat.

One of the funniest red cards I've seen.

Madrid finally won at home. First win for La Liga on Bernabeu in the seventh round...
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 02 2017 02:33 GMT
#1623
On October 02 2017 03:45 sneirac wrote:
unorthodox red card in france: https://streamable.com/c5bp3


Disgraceful red. Total accident, ref equally at fault for hitting the card on his hand haha
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
October 02 2017 04:56 GMT
#1624
Ox must be the unluckiest or stupidest transfer in recent history. Turns down 180k a week at Arsenal where he most likely would be a starter, turns down Chelsea because he doesn't want to play wing-back, goes to Liverpool where he doesn't start, and gets subbed on as a winger lol! Also since he joined Liverpool 1 win in last 6 games or something and Arsenal on a good winning run.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
October 02 2017 06:03 GMT
#1625
more refereeing highlights this weekend, penalty from Italy with VAR usage:
https://streamable.com/w4z1x
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18712 Posts
October 02 2017 06:44 GMT
#1626
On October 02 2017 13:56 Dante08 wrote:
Ox must be the unluckiest or stupidest transfer in recent history. Turns down 180k a week at Arsenal where he most likely would be a starter, turns down Chelsea because he doesn't want to play wing-back, goes to Liverpool where he doesn't start, and gets subbed on as a winger lol! Also since he joined Liverpool 1 win in last 6 games or something and Arsenal on a good winning run.


Stupid. At Arsenal he was loved. Did he really expect to get CAM role at Liverpool?
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 10:44:08
October 02 2017 10:43 GMT
#1627
On October 02 2017 15:03 sneirac wrote:
more refereeing highlights this weekend, penalty from Italy with VAR usage:
https://streamable.com/w4z1x

VAR will fix everything, guys ! LOL.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 11:40:04
October 02 2017 11:39 GMT
#1628
As a Simpsons fan, i found this article amazing!
Shout out to Mensoljwa for linking it me haha

442 Simpsons Article
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 02 2017 12:19 GMT
#1629
On October 02 2017 19:43 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2017 15:03 sneirac wrote:
more refereeing highlights this weekend, penalty from Italy with VAR usage:
https://streamable.com/w4z1x

VAR will fix everything, guys ! LOL.

Noone ever said that but apart from that what is your point? I dont get what is funny about the video posted.
Off-season = best season
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 14:01:38
October 02 2017 14:00 GMT
#1630
On October 02 2017 21:19 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2017 19:43 Pr0wler wrote:
On October 02 2017 15:03 sneirac wrote:
more refereeing highlights this weekend, penalty from Italy with VAR usage:
https://streamable.com/w4z1x

VAR will fix everything, guys ! LOL.

Noone ever said that but apart from that what is your point? I dont get what is funny about the video posted.

Many people were acting like VAR is the golden hammer against bad refereeing.
And the funny part is that the ref makes the wrong call even after watching the replay, but considering who is the benefiting team, not suprising at all.
As long as people are making the calls mistakes will happen, video replays or not.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 02 2017 14:15 GMT
#1631
Don't get how the referee makes the wrong call after VAR. It wasn't even a hard decision. Incompetency at its finest.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 14:56:48
October 02 2017 14:36 GMT
#1632
On October 02 2017 21:19 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2017 19:43 Pr0wler wrote:
On October 02 2017 15:03 sneirac wrote:
more refereeing highlights this weekend, penalty from Italy with VAR usage:
https://streamable.com/w4z1x

VAR will fix everything, guys ! LOL.

Noone ever said that but apart from that what is your point? I dont get what is funny about the video posted.


Its the morons logic of - "if it aint perfect, it aint worth it." and the self indulgent "I told you so" chutzpah that follows. Some thoughts arent worth entertaining..

Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 15:04:10
October 02 2017 15:03 GMT
#1633
On October 02 2017 23:15 DucK- wrote:
Don't get how the referee makes the wrong call after VAR. It wasn't even a hard decision. Incompetency at its finest.

Huh, did not think people here would not see this as a handball, for me it was. The way I see it the ball touches the shoulder and the upper arm below the shoulder which is not allowed. If he did not move that would be fine but since he actively moves his upper arm towards the ball and blocks it with it it is a handball imo.

In any case it is very close, a matter of cm if you call the area hit upper arm or shoulder.
Off-season = best season
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 02 2017 15:18 GMT
#1634
On October 03 2017 00:03 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2017 23:15 DucK- wrote:
Don't get how the referee makes the wrong call after VAR. It wasn't even a hard decision. Incompetency at its finest.

Huh, did not think people here would not see this as a handball, for me it was. The way I see it the ball touches the shoulder and the upper arm below the shoulder which is not allowed. If he did not move that would be fine but since he actively moves his upper arm towards the ball and blocks it with it it is a handball imo.

In any case it is very close, a matter of cm if you call the area hit upper arm or shoulder.

i am the same, i 100% agree with what you are saying that is what i saw.
The only thing i don't agree with is it is deliberate so therefore it is a red card as well!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28873 Posts
October 02 2017 15:49 GMT
#1635
Doesn't necessarily block a goal, so the yellow is fine, no?

To me, that's one of those legitimate 50/50 calls. The ball hits the borderline area of where it's permissible for the ball to hit. To some, it's not a penalty, to others it is. Me, I'm fine with him going either way. And sure, there will still be some controversial decisions with regard to those incidents. Stuff like tackling and hitting the ball but also taking the player, that's also sometimes going to be interpreted as okay and sometimes not. I also don't care if the referee gets an offside call wrongly if I'm only able to see that it's wrong because on the third replay viewing I can see the guy was actually 3 cm onside.

The point with VAR as far as I'm concerned is to remove all the blatantly wrong calls. If there are still some controversial ones because people just can't agree whether the referee got it right, even with replay assistance, then that's still much better than there being some controversies due to the referee getting it wrong and everyone plainly seeing it was wrong.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 16:15:17
October 02 2017 16:12 GMT
#1636
On October 03 2017 00:49 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Doesn't necessarily block a goal, so the yellow is fine, no?

To me, that's one of those legitimate 50/50 calls. The ball hits the borderline area of where it's permissible for the ball to hit. To some, it's not a penalty, to others it is. Me, I'm fine with him going either way. And sure, there will still be some controversial decisions with regard to those incidents. Stuff like tackling and hitting the ball but also taking the player, that's also sometimes going to be interpreted as okay and sometimes not. I also don't care if the referee gets an offside call wrongly if I'm only able to see that it's wrong because on the third replay viewing I can see the guy was actually 3 cm onside.

The point with VAR as far as I'm concerned is to remove all the blatantly wrong calls. If there are still some controversial ones because people just can't agree whether the referee got it right, even with replay assistance, then that's still much better than there being some controversies due to the referee getting it wrong and everyone plainly seeing it was wrong.


Yeah pretty sure if it doesnt deny a clear goal a deliberate handball is a yellow.


Also specifically about the offiside, I am a bit iffy on borderline offisides personally. Ive always preferred the idea that where peoples feet are should determine it rather than the body, but since you can use the body to score it kinda makes sense if you lean offside you get called out. Still bugs me though.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
October 02 2017 16:55 GMT
#1637
On October 03 2017 00:49 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Doesn't necessarily block a goal, so the yellow is fine, no?

To me, that's one of those legitimate 50/50 calls. The ball hits the borderline area of where it's permissible for the ball to hit. To some, it's not a penalty, to others it is. Me, I'm fine with him going either way. And sure, there will still be some controversial decisions with regard to those incidents. Stuff like tackling and hitting the ball but also taking the player, that's also sometimes going to be interpreted as okay and sometimes not. I also don't care if the referee gets an offside call wrongly if I'm only able to see that it's wrong because on the third replay viewing I can see the guy was actually 3 cm onside.

The point with VAR as far as I'm concerned is to remove all the blatantly wrong calls. If there are still some controversial ones because people just can't agree whether the referee got it right, even with replay assistance, then that's still much better than there being some controversies due to the referee getting it wrong and everyone plainly seeing it was wrong.

And meanwhile we lose 2-3 minutes of game time every time the referee is looking at a replay of situation that is 50/50 and most people will be OK either way. I don't know another sport where the clock is running while the referee is staring at a screen, trying to find the slightest evidence of him not being wrong.
When they implement it properly, maybe, now it's a waste of time.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
October 02 2017 19:31 GMT
#1638
they should just get rid of offside
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28873 Posts
October 02 2017 19:37 GMT
#1639
prowler, they already lose game time every time there's a controversial decision. VAR is for situations that impact the end result; goals, penalties, red cards. All of those already cause play stoppage. Maybe it's one minute more. The solution to that, imo, is clearly to add more extra time. Pretty damn easy tbh.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 20:00:54
October 02 2017 19:51 GMT
#1640
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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