EPTAs for 2002, what's the reason for Brazil beating Turkey in the semi-final?
Well Rivaldo is from your spanish league, and so is Busquets, Cristiano, Messi, Suarez and cia... explains a lot!
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N1E
Brazil186 Posts
As for 2002, what's the reason for Brazil beating Turkey in the semi-final? Well Rivaldo is from your spanish league, and so is Busquets, Cristiano, Messi, Suarez and cia... explains a lot! | ||
TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On June 05 2018 01:42 N1E wrote: Low claimed that Brandt was picked very closely over Sane... sorry what exactly you do not understand? (but look, Germany conceded the 2nd against Austria just after Sane was subbed out for Reus. Feels like scapegoating...) I'm pretty sure that this decision wasn't just based on the Austria game, so I'm definitely not scapegoating here. The thing is there wasn't a single good game of him for our NT so far. Seeing him play for our NT feels like watching a foreign body in our game. He just doesn't fit in. It probably didn't help that he didn't go to the Confed Cup where he would have started every game because of a non-urgent nose operation. The thing with Brandt is he always gives it his all unlike Sane and can if necessarily be a backup for Müller on the RW while Sane is pretty much solely a LW at this point. So i think it's both: about Sane being shit for us and not always giving it his all and also about Brandt having some qualities which Sane doesn't have | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
In my experience (for what its worth) the sort of errr... engagement to the lunacy is amusing at first, it will eventually just becoming exhaustively exasperating.. because everything you point out will return progressively incoherent and contradictory commentary. | ||
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N1E
Brazil186 Posts
Something incoherent and contradictory? Pointing out Uruguay's World Cup success reasons, while ignoring the same reasons when using their old success in Copa America to compare Germany with Brazil in continentals (whilst if he wanted a fair base of comparison, he would have used Brazil results AFTER the Euros started, in which no one was more successful than Brazil - for me that is the delusional lunatic). | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18198 Posts
On June 05 2018 02:22 N1E wrote: Looks like I'll have to waste my time and dig up La Liga divers... oh well. What's that? I couldn't hear you over the sound of Rivaldo dying. | ||
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N1E
Brazil186 Posts
Beautiful music lol. FIFA is obviously very clean and Colombia were very deserving of the FAIR PLAY award in 2014... Just like Messi deserved the Golden Adidas (which NOT EVEN his daddy BLATTER was able to defend lolol) PS: And I'm not saying anything, the video is. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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N1E
Brazil186 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + and conversely make people hate Ramos even more. Water under the bridge in any case. http://www.espn.com/soccer/liverpool/story/3517542/liverpools-loris-karius-suffered-concussion-in-champions-league-final | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
I think it's good, because scousers get fined :D was 24/26 tests they did on him confirmed he was concussed, so i think that is very bad. Liverpool medical staff didn't even check him and he was on floor in pain. Very bad all round. Some fines be past on | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On June 05 2018 04:58 Ysellian wrote: This does make the Liverpool medical staff seem rather inept too. Surely they can see signs of a concussion? I'm no expert obviously but in the US they seem much better adapt in dealing with concussions. Unsurprising given its a regular occurrence in 2 out of 4 of the major sports and is not uncommon in the other 2 either. The rules are incredibly tight. Then again its often stuff like this, so doesnt take a rocket scientist to notice. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On June 05 2018 04:31 Rebs wrote: Not sure if this is just an exercise in scapegoating but heres some news coming out. Given the timing and the doctor's relationship with Fenway, I'd be skeptical. I also do recall him being more annoyed and peeved when he got hit, rather than showing any obvious signs of spatial whatever that was. It probably hurt and got drowned out by adrenaline and the moment but the prognosis seems a bit much. It certainly could go some way to dampening the heat on Karius, and that seems to be the most important thing. + Show Spoiler + and conversely make people hate Ramos even more. Water under the bridge in any case. http://www.espn.com/soccer/liverpool/story/3517542/liverpools-loris-karius-suffered-concussion-in-champions-league-final in regards to not showing symptoms: Concussions have a plethora of symptoms and effects. It's definitely possible to a) not realize you're concussed and b) to not have symptoms like dizzyness , the fencing stance etc..., depending on how hard and where you were hit. Both more so if you're under adrenaline. I'm curious about this, too, though, in regards to the doctor and if they try to shift the blame. Just saying that medically speaking it's well in the realm of possibility what the report is claiming. Source: Had this happening to me once (Kickboxing) and saw a video of it. I was totally looking normal but after the impact I clearly had a blind spot to the right and made some really dumb calls. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On June 05 2018 05:01 Pandemona wrote: The FA put in regulations where a "unassociated" Dr must check a player for signs of concussion not the physio's. So wonder what UEFA do as they need that as well. Very poor all round. Worst part is referee didn't see it and didn't seem to care during live. Sure, but who makes the call when there is an off the ball incident that the referee hasnt even seen/called and the purported victim isnt showing any signs of injury.. obvious signs... its not as straightforward as an injury that was obvious and they were just like.. "its just a bump lad, get on with it." On June 05 2018 05:06 TheNewEra wrote: in regards to not showing symptoms: Concussions have a plethora of symptoms and effects. It's definitely possible to a) not realize you're concussed and b) to not have symptoms like dizzyness , the fencing stance etc..., depending on how hard and where you were hit. Both more so if you're under adrenaline. I'm curious about this, too, though, in regards to the doctor and if they try to shift the blame. Just saying that medically speaking it's well in the realm of possibility what the report is claiming. Source: Had this happening to me once (Kickboxing) and saw a video of it. I was totally looking normal but after the impact I clearly had a blind spot to the right and made some really dumb calls. Oh, I absolutely agree that concussions can show no signs, happens in combat sports all the time. I just meant with reference to the situation I would be hard pressed to pin it on anyone for missing it if it was a thing and given the timelines that tend to work out with these instances usually, this one is lets sayyy a bit unusual. A Madrid fan colleague of mine just snorted and said "so he been concussed since the day they signed him?" | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On June 05 2018 05:08 Rebs wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2018 05:01 Pandemona wrote: The FA put in regulations where a "unassociated" Dr must check a player for signs of concussion not the physio's. So wonder what UEFA do as they need that as well. Very poor all round. Worst part is referee didn't see it and didn't seem to care during live. Sure, but who makes the call when there is an off the ball incident that the referee hasnt even seen/called and the purported victim isnt showing any signs of injury.. obvious signs... its not as straightforward as an injury that was obvious and they were just like.. "its just a bump lad, get on with it." On June 05 2018 05:06 TheNewEra wrote: in regards to not showing symptoms: Concussions have a plethora of symptoms and effects. It's definitely possible to a) not realize you're concussed and b) to not have symptoms like dizzyness , the fencing stance etc..., depending on how hard and where you were hit. Both more so if you're under adrenaline. I'm curious about this, too, though, in regards to the doctor and if they try to shift the blame. Just saying that medically speaking it's well in the realm of possibility what the report is claiming. Source: Had this happening to me once (Kickboxing) and saw a video of it. I was totally looking normal but after the impact I clearly had a blind spot to the right and made some really dumb calls. Oh, I absolutely agree that concussions can show no signs, happens in combat sports all the time. I just meant with reference to the situation I would be hard pressed to pin it on anyone for missing it if it was a thing and given the timelines that tend to work out with these instances usually, this one is lets sayyy a bit unusual. A Madrid fan colleague of mine just snorted and said "so he been concussed since the day they signed him?" Sorry. Misunderstood you ! | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On June 05 2018 05:08 Rebs wrote: Sure, but who makes the call when there is an off the ball incident that the referee hasnt even seen/called and the purported victim isnt showing any signs of injury.. obvious signs... its not as straightforward as an injury that was obvious and they were just like.. "its just a bump lad, get on with it." Oh, I absolutely agree that concussions can show no signs, happens in combat sports all the time. I just meant with reference to the situation I would be hard pressed to pin it on anyone for missing it if it was a thing and given the timelines that tend to work out with these instances usually, this one is lets sayyy a bit unusual. A Madrid fan colleague of mine just snorted and said "so he been concussed since the day they signed him?" Doesn't he help in pain after he is hit and on the floor then the medic staff come over, surely there is signs. I don't know maybe it isn't. Still every player will want to play with a concussion it has happened before that is why this rule came into play and it was due to goalkeepers as well. I say "rule" but it is a thing in England at least. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On June 05 2018 05:17 Pandemona wrote: Doesn't he help in pain after he is hit and on the floor then the medic staff come over, surely there is signs. I don't know maybe it isn't. Still every player will want to play with a concussion it has happened before that is why this rule came into play and it was due to goalkeepers as well. I say "rule" but it is a thing in England at least. ahhh I dont remember him being looked at. I just remember the remonstrations. If they did stop and check him I dono what the protocols are tbh, so I couldnt say whether they should have noticed it or not. | ||
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N1E
Brazil186 Posts
The Kangaroos are doing fine it's obvious that we're way better than Brazil because we are the reigning champions of the Asian cup while Brazil never even made it to the final. Go suck an egg! ...Btw It all makes sense now, I was looking at the WC groups and stared in shock as I saw Australia there in group C lol. I thought you were joking at first but it's actual real, good decision to play Asians although you are not Asian instead of losing to Peru!  | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8789 Posts
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