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N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-05 02:07:18
June 05 2018 02:06 GMT
#6181
^ Someone seems very salty 4 some reason

Damn inopportune timing to break page lol
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8860 Posts
June 05 2018 03:37 GMT
#6182
what would i have to be salty about. i just dont like how i lose brain cells when i read your posts
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3999 Posts
June 05 2018 05:45 GMT
#6183
On June 05 2018 11:06 N1E wrote:
^ Someone seems very salty 4 some reason

Damn inopportune timing to break page lol

Please, I’m really looking forward to following the wc on this forum, but if all that it’s going to be is whining about refs against brazil and picking fights I’m going to skip it. Why don’t you just visit some .br forum where everyone can hand job each other into wc victory?
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
June 05 2018 07:22 GMT
#6184
On June 05 2018 01:52 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2018 01:42 N1E wrote:
On June 05 2018 01:30 TheNewEra wrote:
On June 05 2018 01:20 N1E wrote:
So it is about Sane? Not about "B team" Brandt who, IIRC, played well for Germany in the Confederations Cup (although what FIFA does makes it hard to praise their teams) and especially made the all important ball retrieve and assist for the lone goal in the final. After which Low, who probably knows less about football than you guys, said that it was the most important title lol.

can you try to rephrase this ? I'm genuinely not sure what you are saying/meaning/implying Sorry

Low claimed that Brandt was picked very closely over Sane... sorry what exactly you do not understand?


(but look, Germany conceded the 2nd against Austria just after Sane was subbed out for Reus. Feels like scapegoating...)

I'm pretty sure that this decision wasn't just based on the Austria game, so I'm definitely not scapegoating here. The thing is there wasn't a single good game of him for our NT so far. Seeing him play for our NT feels like watching a foreign body in our game. He just doesn't fit in. It probably didn't help that he didn't go to the Confed Cup where he would have started every game because of a non-urgent nose operation.

The thing with Brandt is he always gives it his all unlike Sane and can if necessarily be a backup for Müller on the RW while Sane is pretty much solely a LW at this point. So i think it's both: about Sane being shit for us and not always giving it his all and also about Brandt having some qualities which Sane doesn't have


Löw has always made questionable decisions. If he has a personal issue with someone, he doesn't nominate him. Not nominating Sane proofs that he got completly insane now. There is no reason for it. If he cant make him work its also his fault. I wonder if hes watching PL at all
Respect my authoritah!!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18635 Posts
June 05 2018 07:26 GMT
#6185
Lol at calling Löw insane. He brought Germany to top4 finishes or better every single time.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-05 08:21:20
June 05 2018 08:20 GMT
#6186
On June 05 2018 16:26 sharkie wrote:
Lol at calling Löw insane. He brought Germany to top4 finishes or better every single time.


He profited immensly from our talented generation. Sure, it still takes some qualities to achieve his results, ill give him that but he is still nuts. Sane is one of our best and most talented players and he leaves him at home for whatever reason. Instead, he nominated players like Rudy where I can't think of a single situation where he might be helpful.

Respect my authoritah!!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18635 Posts
June 05 2018 08:23 GMT
#6187
Rudy? One of Boateng/Hummels gets injured and the other is banned for a game because of yellow/red card.
Then you already need Rudy.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
June 05 2018 08:56 GMT
#6188
On June 05 2018 17:23 sharkie wrote:
Rudy? One of Boateng/Hummels gets injured and the other is banned for a game because of yellow/red card.
Then you already need Rudy.


Rudy is a midfielder and not a CB. We have Süle and Rüdiger (maybe you mixed them up).
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18635 Posts
June 05 2018 09:18 GMT
#6189
ah yeah I did mix them up.
Rudy is the guy that can be used as a right back
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
June 05 2018 09:45 GMT
#6190
On June 05 2018 18:18 sharkie wrote:
ah yeah I did mix them up.
Rudy is the guy that can be used as a right back


We can use Ginther for that purpose. Even if you ignore the amazing season that sane played, the fact that you sacrifice the option of subbing in a fast attacking player in favour of a CM who was benched all season at Bayern is just mindblowing.
Respect my authoritah!!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18287 Posts
June 05 2018 09:52 GMT
#6191
On June 05 2018 18:45 TerransHill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2018 18:18 sharkie wrote:
ah yeah I did mix them up.
Rudy is the guy that can be used as a right back


We can use Ginther for that purpose. Even if you ignore the amazing season that sane played, the fact that you sacrifice the option of subbing in a fast attacking player in favour of a CM who was benched all season at Bayern is just mindblowing.

Well, at least Rudy is used to being benched. I think the main point people were bringing up is that Sane won't be in the starting 11 and is a bit spoiled and egotistical in that regard, wouldn't accept not starting and would have a negative effect on team spirit. Of course, it's all speculation, as we don't know what Low's reasons are, but it's also an assumption that not bringing Sane is because he's lost his marbles.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
June 05 2018 10:31 GMT
#6192
On June 05 2018 18:52 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2018 18:45 TerransHill wrote:
On June 05 2018 18:18 sharkie wrote:
ah yeah I did mix them up.
Rudy is the guy that can be used as a right back


We can use Ginther for that purpose. Even if you ignore the amazing season that sane played, the fact that you sacrifice the option of subbing in a fast attacking player in favour of a CM who was benched all season at Bayern is just mindblowing.

Well, at least Rudy is used to being benched. I think the main point people were bringing up is that Sane won't be in the starting 11 and is a bit spoiled and egotistical in that regard, wouldn't accept not starting and would have a negative effect on team spirit. Of course, it's all speculation, as we don't know what Low's reasons are, but it's also an assumption that not bringing Sane is because he's lost his marbles.


Well that would be kinda stupid to fill the bench with bench player just cause they are less mad about it. He couldve nominated me in that case, i would be the happiest person in the whole squad :D But well, maybe Löw thinks like that.

I think Löw is still mad at him because he didnt want to play at the confed cup.
Respect my authoritah!!
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-05 10:41:45
June 05 2018 10:40 GMT
#6193
On June 05 2018 16:22 TerransHill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2018 01:52 TheNewEra wrote:
On June 05 2018 01:42 N1E wrote:
On June 05 2018 01:30 TheNewEra wrote:
On June 05 2018 01:20 N1E wrote:
So it is about Sane? Not about "B team" Brandt who, IIRC, played well for Germany in the Confederations Cup (although what FIFA does makes it hard to praise their teams) and especially made the all important ball retrieve and assist for the lone goal in the final. After which Low, who probably knows less about football than you guys, said that it was the most important title lol.

can you try to rephrase this ? I'm genuinely not sure what you are saying/meaning/implying Sorry

Low claimed that Brandt was picked very closely over Sane... sorry what exactly you do not understand?


(but look, Germany conceded the 2nd against Austria just after Sane was subbed out for Reus. Feels like scapegoating...)

I'm pretty sure that this decision wasn't just based on the Austria game, so I'm definitely not scapegoating here. The thing is there wasn't a single good game of him for our NT so far. Seeing him play for our NT feels like watching a foreign body in our game. He just doesn't fit in. It probably didn't help that he didn't go to the Confed Cup where he would have started every game because of a non-urgent nose operation.

The thing with Brandt is he always gives it his all unlike Sane and can if necessarily be a backup for Müller on the RW while Sane is pretty much solely a LW at this point. So i think it's both: about Sane being shit for us and not always giving it his all and also about Brandt having some qualities which Sane doesn't have


Löw has always made questionable decisions. If he has a personal issue with someone, he doesn't nominate him. Not nominating Sane proofs that he got completly insane now. There is no reason for it. If he cant make him work its also his fault. I wonder if hes watching PL at all

Agreed. The fact that Sane is shit for us, is apparently lazy in training and has 2 players in front of him makes the decision easier though.

And I disagree to some extent with you that it's Löws fault for not making it work. Sane clearly suffers on the pitch because of the way Löw lets our team play. A playstyle which by now is well-established and works just fine. We shouldn't change it up to accomodate our 3rd LW.

Also who should be cut? Brandt who is also our Müller back-up? Rudy who if necessary can play a plethora of defensive positions?
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TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-05 11:27:39
June 05 2018 11:27 GMT
#6194
On June 05 2018 19:40 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2018 16:22 TerransHill wrote:
On June 05 2018 01:52 TheNewEra wrote:
On June 05 2018 01:42 N1E wrote:
On June 05 2018 01:30 TheNewEra wrote:
On June 05 2018 01:20 N1E wrote:
So it is about Sane? Not about "B team" Brandt who, IIRC, played well for Germany in the Confederations Cup (although what FIFA does makes it hard to praise their teams) and especially made the all important ball retrieve and assist for the lone goal in the final. After which Low, who probably knows less about football than you guys, said that it was the most important title lol.

can you try to rephrase this ? I'm genuinely not sure what you are saying/meaning/implying Sorry

Low claimed that Brandt was picked very closely over Sane... sorry what exactly you do not understand?


(but look, Germany conceded the 2nd against Austria just after Sane was subbed out for Reus. Feels like scapegoating...)

I'm pretty sure that this decision wasn't just based on the Austria game, so I'm definitely not scapegoating here. The thing is there wasn't a single good game of him for our NT so far. Seeing him play for our NT feels like watching a foreign body in our game. He just doesn't fit in. It probably didn't help that he didn't go to the Confed Cup where he would have started every game because of a non-urgent nose operation.

The thing with Brandt is he always gives it his all unlike Sane and can if necessarily be a backup for Müller on the RW while Sane is pretty much solely a LW at this point. So i think it's both: about Sane being shit for us and not always giving it his all and also about Brandt having some qualities which Sane doesn't have


Löw has always made questionable decisions. If he has a personal issue with someone, he doesn't nominate him. Not nominating Sane proofs that he got completly insane now. There is no reason for it. If he cant make him work its also his fault. I wonder if hes watching PL at all

Agreed. The fact that Sane is shit for us, is apparently lazy in training and has 2 players in front of him makes the decision easier though.

And I disagree to some extent with you that it's Löws fault for not making it work. Sane clearly suffers on the pitch because of the way Löw lets our team play. A playstyle which by now is well-established and works just fine. We shouldn't change it up to accomodate our 3rd LW.

Also who should be cut? Brandt who is also our Müller back-up? Rudy who if necessary can play a plethora of defensive positions?


Considering Sanes talent I can think of a couple of players who could be cut, Rudy and Brandt are among them of course. And yes, it is Löws fault, don't tell me that we have no use for a fast winger because of our playstyle.
And yes, Sane is probably a lazy and arrogant prick (you kinda have to be if you have a giant tattoo of yourself on your back), but it is Löws job to motivate him, he is still young and maye doesn't know better. Özil is a lazy bastard aswell, even and especially on the pitch.
Respect my authoritah!!
N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
June 05 2018 12:06 GMT
#6195
On June 05 2018 14:45 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2018 11:06 N1E wrote:
^ Someone seems very salty 4 some reason

Damn inopportune timing to break page lol

Please, I’m really looking forward to following the wc on this forum, but if all that it’s going to be is whining about refs against brazil and picking fights I’m going to skip it. Why don’t you just visit some .br forum where everyone can hand job each other into wc victory?

Weird I didn't talk about that where you quoted, but since you want I will!
Netherlands victory in 3rd place match in 2014 originated from an outside area penalty for 1st goal, and 2nd goal offside. Facts. I wasn't going to cry, but since you asked it!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28796 Posts
June 05 2018 12:24 GMT
#6196
yeah the first goal should have been a red card and freekick instead of penalty and yellow. Seeing how it happened after 2 minutes, that's hardly preferable. Second is marginally offside indeed. Best case, you're arguing that you should have lost 0-1 - I think with 10 players the entire game it'd probably look worse than that.
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-05 12:28:35
June 05 2018 12:27 GMT
#6197
Another shocking display by Belgium on Saturday. Everyone played pretty garbage outside of the first 10 minutes. To make matters worse Kompany got injured (again!).
I saw a stat that out of the last 27 games for the national team, Kompany was injured for 23 of them. The Portugal game on Saturday was not included in the stat, so make it 23 out of 28, it's still hilarious.

So he'll probably not be able to play the first games, Vermaelen is also still injured and has said he won't play before the actual WC, if both of them remain injured it's back to Ciman or Boyata to help us out (Y).
Flashbacks to the EC vs Wales...

At least we should have an "easy" opponent in the RO16 (Poland or Colombia I imagine) so we can reach quarters and pretend the WC wasn't a complete disappointment.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 05 2018 12:43 GMT
#6198
You get to play against England, that means your World Cup is amazing anyway, getting to play the big boys :D
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28796 Posts
June 05 2018 12:47 GMT
#6199
As good as the Belgian squad is, I think you should totally be satisfied if you reach quarter finals. Semifinal would be better than expected.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18287 Posts
June 05 2018 12:50 GMT
#6200
On June 05 2018 21:27 Laurens wrote:
Another shocking display by Belgium on Saturday. Everyone played pretty garbage outside of the first 10 minutes. To make matters worse Kompany got injured (again!).
I saw a stat that out of the last 27 games for the national team, Kompany was injured for 23 of them. The Portugal game on Saturday was not included in the stat, so make it 23 out of 28, it's still hilarious.

So he'll probably not be able to play the first games, Vermaelen is also still injured and has said he won't play before the actual WC, if both of them remain injured it's back to Ciman or Boyata to help us out (Y).
Flashbacks to the EC vs Wales...

At least we should have an "easy" opponent in the RO16 (Poland or Colombia I imagine) so we can reach quarters and pretend the WC wasn't a complete disappointment.

I wouldn't classify Colombia as an easy opponent. Sure, they're your typical south american team, with 2 or 3 superstars and complete disorganization. But Falcao seems to be in form, James even out of form can be tricky to deal with, and Cuadrado is still good enough to glue it all together. If your defense is a bunch of B-players (which it is without Kompany or Vermaelen), then I wouldn't expect to beat Colombia...
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