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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-04 13:59:42
June 04 2018 13:52 GMT
#6141
On June 04 2018 16:46 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2018 13:50 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i liked this thread better before n1e came along. its so cancerous to read his posts.
like....you could at least try and remove the delusion and bias from your posts and youd still probably be able to make your points. instead you just sound like a bitter 12 yr old being passive aggressive with emoticons


We already had enough toxicity with Rebs indeed


I take exception to being placed in the same boat as N1E ... . Keep being a smart ass and ill keep shutting you down..

I am just an educator man.. dont be hati'n cuz you keep gettin schooled
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
June 04 2018 14:01 GMT
#6142
On June 04 2018 21:24 Espers wrote:
In Asia, facilitated by the Korean FA who are also tied up in their domestic league being a total farce. Same in China. Cheating is just part of the culture over there and it's rife in everything, sport, academia..


Money is and has always been offered anywhere and anytime.
In 2002 it was just accepted by people who did not care about their public standing at all.

Or are you seriously saying 2002WC is the only WC in which corruption had happened?
N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-04 14:31:44
June 04 2018 14:04 GMT
#6143
i liked this thread better before n1e came along. its so cancerous to read his posts.
like....you could at least try and remove the delusion and bias from your posts and youd still probably be able to make your points. instead you just sound like a bitter 12 yr old being passive aggressive with emoticons

Yup, reality must be cancerous for Pessi and Penaldo fans...

"oh Neymar diver" hahaha everybody laughs... then Kroos throws himself in the ground offside. Pessi throws himself for a penalty against Chile in 2015... Penaldo, well, he always did it and does it.

Truth hurts.



I also love how you brought up the records of the Euros. When they were born, nobody won more Copas (Americas) than Brazil. But you instead compared it with the entire thing that has a century of history (Brazil won very few times when it was still called the South American Championship) instead of half a century.

Without blind and weird fererees Korea would never pass Spain/Italy, I do remember those trash matches.

A taste of your own medicine is good at times... Asia did it once, Europe does it since forever, and still do more and more.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-04 14:37:27
June 04 2018 14:35 GMT
#6144
Germany does not look that impressive, and Low did not pick Sane, that's insane...
I know he has doing so so with the NT but still, this guy is top 3 at his post.


A taste of your own medicine is good at times... Asia did it once, Europe does it since forever, and still do more and more


Sure, 7-1 was all about the referee
N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-04 14:45:24
June 04 2018 14:43 GMT
#6145
5 world cups, 4 confederation cups, 6 olympic medals and best player(s) in history too?

Neymar injury was about the FIFA(UEFA) referees....


Oh you are from France... 6-1 was referee, right? Ah, I bet now you're not a fan of "Qatar Saint-Germain", though you might have not said that when Ibrahimovic "one of the top players in the world" was there.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-04 14:46:19
June 04 2018 14:45 GMT
#6146
On June 04 2018 23:35 stilt wrote:
Germany does not look that impressive, and Low did not pick Sane, that's insane...
I know he has doing so so with the NT but still, this guy is top 3 at his post.

Sane is really shit for us though. The moment he puts on the german kit he is literally David Odonkor. 2.0. Never playing the intelligent pass instead make the selfish play. Always 'dribbling' (in this case meaning: running headfirst into his opponent defender. If the defender would lie injured on the ground Sane would still find a way to lose the ball to him. He also always looks like he doesn't even care. His only good thing (atleast when he's playing for our NT) is his pace. If he hadn't played such an insane season no one would bat an eyelash at this. He just doesn't fit our current playstyle. Even Amin Younes has played better for us at LW.

Also who would you cut instead of him?
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
June 04 2018 14:59 GMT
#6147
On June 04 2018 23:45 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2018 23:35 stilt wrote:
Germany does not look that impressive, and Low did not pick Sane, that's insane...
I know he has doing so so with the NT but still, this guy is top 3 at his post.

Sane is really shit for us though. The moment he puts on the german kit he is literally David Odonkor. 2.0. Never playing the intelligent pass instead make the selfish play. Always 'dribbling' (in this case meaning: running headfirst into his opponent defender. If the defender would lie injured on the ground Sane would still find a way to lose the ball to him. He also always looks like he doesn't even care. His only good thing (atleast when he's playing for our NT) is his pace. If he hadn't played such an insane season no one would bat an eyelash at this. He just doesn't fit our current playstyle. Even Amin Younes has played better for us at LW.

Also who would you cut instead of him?

Pretty much this. I think the game against austria he really reinforced all this. While he does well to get involved, there seems to be just a lack of football of football intelligence or a mental blockade, which is a shame, given his obvious talent. I suppose Löw tried hard to fix this, but in the end he may just have run out of hope that it will change in time for the world cup.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-04 15:48:06
June 04 2018 15:30 GMT
#6148
On June 04 2018 23:59 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2018 23:45 TheNewEra wrote:
On June 04 2018 23:35 stilt wrote:
Germany does not look that impressive, and Low did not pick Sane, that's insane...
I know he has doing so so with the NT but still, this guy is top 3 at his post.

Sane is really shit for us though. The moment he puts on the german kit he is literally David Odonkor. 2.0. Never playing the intelligent pass instead make the selfish play. Always 'dribbling' (in this case meaning: running headfirst into his opponent defender. If the defender would lie injured on the ground Sane would still find a way to lose the ball to him. He also always looks like he doesn't even care. His only good thing (atleast when he's playing for our NT) is his pace. If he hadn't played such an insane season no one would bat an eyelash at this. He just doesn't fit our current playstyle. Even Amin Younes has played better for us at LW.

Also who would you cut instead of him?

Pretty much this. I think the game against austria he really reinforced all this. While he does well to get involved, there seems to be just a lack of football of football intelligence or a mental blockade, which is a shame, given his obvious talent. I suppose Löw tried hard to fix this, but in the end he may just have run out of hope that it will change in time for the world cup.


I think its fair from Löw aswell. He hasnt quite gelled and there is no point trying to shoehorn him in at this stage. He is young and will have other opportunities after maturing up to be more flexible and intelligent in his play + Show Spoiler +
(which he seemingly manages to do at City.. *cough Pep cough*)
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
June 04 2018 15:56 GMT
#6149
If he isn't playing well at Germany maybe Low should be asking himself why Guardiola is able to make him one of the best players in the PL while he can't even make him play well enough to select him for the WC.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
June 04 2018 16:02 GMT
#6150
On June 04 2018 16:16 Skynx wrote:


I'm just here to say Turkey2002 was the best darkhorse of all time

You mean after Bulgaria 1994, of course
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
June 04 2018 16:02 GMT
#6151
How did Sane perform in City's cup competitions? Especially in the big games?

WC is not the league. Löw cannot afford to bring a player who performs "most of the time". He needs one that is and can be ready anytime.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18464 Posts
June 04 2018 16:03 GMT
#6152
On June 05 2018 00:56 RvB wrote:
If he isn't playing well at Germany maybe Low should be asking himself why Guardiola is able to make him one of the best players in the PL while he can't even make him play well enough to select him for the WC.

You could have said the same about plenty of the Dutch players leading up to 2002. That was one of our golden generations, yet v. Gaal (one of our best coaches) couldn't even get them to qualify. Sometimes coaches and players just don't jibe, and it is not something wrong with either of them. It's a shame when it happens at the national team, as you can't just sell that player to a different country. But it happens.

That said, it could also be something else. Plenty of players have commented that playing for the national team brings a different kind of nerves.. and maybe Sane feels he needs to prove himself, and therefore does loads of stupid shit that he would never do at Manchester. And because he played badly he then feels even more pressure to deal with that. Partially it's the coach's job to ensure players break out of that mindset. But mostly it's a mental block players themselves have to overcome.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-04 16:12:26
June 04 2018 16:09 GMT
#6153
On June 05 2018 00:56 RvB wrote:
If he isn't playing well at Germany maybe Low should be asking himself why Guardiola is able to make him one of the best players in the PL while he can't even make him play well enough to select him for the WC.

Pep and Löw play vastly different playstyles. Ours is well-established by now and I doubt Löw would change it for a player who wouldn't even be a starter (aslong as Reus and Draxler are fit) anyways. That's just too risky.

And I seriously doubt that Löw somehow makes him braindead before any game.
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-04 16:34:31
June 04 2018 16:20 GMT
#6154
So it is about Sane? Not about "B team" Brandt who, IIRC, played well for Germany in the Confederations Cup (although what FIFA does makes it hard to praise their teams) and especially made the all important ball retrieve and assist for the lone goal in the final. After which Low, who probably knows less about football than you guys, said that it was the most important title lol.

And look, Germany conceded the 2nd against Austria just after Sane was subbed out for Reus. Feels like scapegoating...
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
June 04 2018 16:30 GMT
#6155
On June 05 2018 01:20 N1E wrote:
So it is about Sane? Not about "B team" Brandt who, IIRC, played well for Germany in the Confederations Cup (although what FIFA does makes it hard to praise their teams) and especially made the all important ball retrieve and assist for the lone goal in the final. After which Low, who probably knows less about football than you guys, said that it was the most important title lol.

can you try to rephrase this ? I'm genuinely not sure what you are saying/meaning/implying Sorry
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-04 16:34:04
June 04 2018 16:31 GMT
#6156
On June 04 2018 23:04 N1E wrote:
Show nested quote +
i liked this thread better before n1e came along. its so cancerous to read his posts.
like....you could at least try and remove the delusion and bias from your posts and youd still probably be able to make your points. instead you just sound like a bitter 12 yr old being passive aggressive with emoticons

Yup, reality must be cancerous for Pessi and Penaldo fans...

"oh Neymar diver" hahaha everybody laughs... then Kroos throws himself in the ground offside. Pessi throws himself for a penalty against Chile in 2015... Penaldo, well, he always did it and does it.

Truth hurts.



I also love how you brought up the records of the Euros. When they were born, nobody won more Copas (Americas) than Brazil. But you instead compared it with the entire thing that has a century of history (Brazil won very few times when it was still called the South American Championship) instead of half a century.

Show nested quote +
Without blind and weird fererees Korea would never pass Spain/Italy, I do remember those trash matches.

A taste of your own medicine is good at times... Asia did it once, Europe does it since forever, and still do more and more.


I just like how delusional and arrogant you are Keep it going so we would have a month of calm discussions in these thread relativly soon I hope

BRA71L
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N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
June 04 2018 16:39 GMT
#6157
Brazil has put many 7-0s (even in a Copa America final), 8-0s 9-0 etc.

Delusional? How so? Did I make up 5 world cups, 4 confederation cups, 6 olympic medals and best player(s) in history too?

Arrogance, or self-defense? BRA5IL. I'm calm, it's not my fault if you are jealous or something?

Calm discussions? Where you can call my country player(s) divers, talk about how great european Penaldo is, and such? yea, whatever...

N1E
Profile Blog Joined February 2017
Brazil186 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-04 16:44:07
June 04 2018 16:42 GMT
#6158
On June 05 2018 01:30 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2018 01:20 N1E wrote:
So it is about Sane? Not about "B team" Brandt who, IIRC, played well for Germany in the Confederations Cup (although what FIFA does makes it hard to praise their teams) and especially made the all important ball retrieve and assist for the lone goal in the final. After which Low, who probably knows less about football than you guys, said that it was the most important title lol.

can you try to rephrase this ? I'm genuinely not sure what you are saying/meaning/implying Sorry

Low claimed that Brandt was picked very closely over Sane... sorry what exactly you do not understand?

(but look, Germany conceded the 2nd against Austria just after Sane was subbed out for Reus. Feels like scapegoating...)


Anyways, it seems to be my fault that you want a story, but doesn't want the other side of the story.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18464 Posts
June 04 2018 16:43 GMT
#6159
On June 05 2018 01:39 N1E wrote:
Brazil has put many 7-0s (even in a Copa America final), 8-0s 9-0 etc.

Delusional? How so? Did I make up 5 world cups, 4 confederation cups, 6 olympic medals and best player(s) in history too?

Arrogance, or self-defense? BRA5IL. I'm calm, it's not my fault if you are jealous or something?

Calm discussions? Where you can call my country player(s) divers, talk about how great european Penaldo is, and such? yea, whatever...



[image loading]

Never gets old.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-04 16:44:44
June 04 2018 16:43 GMT
#6160
On June 04 2018 23:43 N1E wrote:
5 world cups, 4 confederation cups, 6 olympic medals and best player(s) in history too?

Neymar injury was about the FIFA(UEFA) referees....


Oh you are from France... 6-1 was referee, right? Ah, I bet now you're not a fan of "Qatar Saint-Germain", though you might have not said that when Ibrahimovic "one of the top players in the world" was there.


Ofc, Neymar injury is a fifa plot against Brazil for whatever reasons.
Oh I get it, Brazil was just too good...
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