EPT2017 - 2018 Football Thread - Page 272
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Pandemona
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Ysellian
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On May 05 2018 21:32 TheNewEra wrote: Don't even know where to start.+ Show Spoiler + In general chaotic clubs are often times disliked in Germany. Mismanagement led to them becoming a really big "Chaosclub". The club is shit from top to bottom. Since a few years they are not playing well anymore. So their usual reaction to this is firing their coach ( seriously they had like 10 in the last 5 years) and thanks to them becoming useless they are financially dependent on their investor, which are big no nos for your reputation in German football aswell. In Hamburg this incompetence on the field is paired with an ... utterly astonishing management. There is always a power struggle there. And I can't remember if there was a period of time in the last 5 years in which there wasn't some kind of drama happening. Be it that the manager loses a backpack with stuff like contract details or every single thing said in meetings getting leaked immediately. Also their investor is notoriously power hungry and tries to influence stuff like transfers. Paired with this drama you also have sheer incompetence. They spend big on people even though my 3rd grade Cousin would know that those guys suck. Just look at the Bobby Wood contract extension. He scored like 2 or 3 goals last season even tho he was brought in as their saviour and they extend his contract and make him one of their highest payed players. And despite all that: A shit team. Constant changes of coaches. Drama in the management. Mismanagement. Being financially dependent on their investor. They always get to rescue themselves through some bullshit. They have played 2 times in the relegation playoffs against 2nd league clubs now. So 4 legs. Out of these 4 legs they only managed to win a single game. Against lower tiered clubs. It's quite pathetic. One time they stayed up by drawing two times. Another time they stayed up by scoring a freekick in the last minute that should never have been given. Basically they are just too bad for the Bundesliga but manage to stay up through bullshit and luck. And then you have the fans. I'm from the area in the middle of Bremen and Hamburg. 90% of people there are either Bremen or Hamburg fans. It's split. So I know quite a lot of HSV supporters in person. And they are utterly dillusional. They win one time at the start of the season? "We are back again. HSV reborn". They win 2 times? "We are playing Europa League next year for sure, maybe even Champions League.". But in the end they always fight relegation. And this brings me to that damn fucking clock they have hanging in their stadium. It shows the time how long they are playing in the Bundesliga (since the first season and never been relegated). HSV has been a shitshow the last years so their damn clock is the only thing they can be proud of nowadays. And they will rub it in your nose: "Never been relegated, never will". They are a dead club walking which gets safed by sheer luck and bullshit all the time. Just now it came out that they only got the license for next season Bundesliga by selling marketing rights. Thats how dead they are. But thanks to them always getting safed they won't make any changes in their club . TL:DR: They are playing like a 2nd league team. They have the management of a 7th tier team. Their fans are obnoxious. Their investor is an asshole. They have no business staying in the Bundesliga but they always do. That's why everyone hates them except their fans (and some Hannover assholes). I had a few beers so I'm rambling abit. I hope you can understand what I meant  You should read about some of their drama in management over the few last years. Some of that shit is downright hilariousThanks! I get the gist of it now. I can definitely understand the frustration actually haha. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Dante08
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Sad news, please recover well Sir Alex! | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On May 06 2018 00:48 Liquid`Drone wrote: I bring it up because you said united's squad was too young to stay consistent. City's squad is as young but they are consistent. Thus I don't think your initial statement about united's squad being too young to be consistent is accurate. While that might seem like nitpicking at the phrasing you used, the point I'm trying to make is that it's not an age thing, but a Mourinho thing. He doesn't really focus on developing a coherent attacking play. This makes United less capable of winning consistently, because they are more dependent on individuals making some magic happen- for City the players just have to adhere to the implemented playstyle and they will nearly always create far more dangerous changes than the opposing team. They only struggle with teams that have a comparable skill level as them. Further, City is 10-0-0 in PL games where Aguero was not fielded this season. 20-3-2 in games where he plays. United is 7-0-3 in games where Sanchez plays - worse point per average than the rest of the season. (I know this comparison isn't entirely fair because he came mid-season and hasn't had time to gel in the same way. But there isn't that much 'gelling' to be done, aside from being taught to work hard defensively.  ) As for the midfield City has Silva, indeed, United has fielded Mata, Matic and Young most of the season - they're 29, 29 and 32.Correct on mourinho. He doesn't coach an attack. He mainly preps the team to be defensively solid. Goals are scored because players make the magic themselves, and not because of mourinho. If the magic doesn't happen, there are not enough goals and hence not enough wins or their so called inconsistency. In Chelsea 1.0, attacking was not a problem because he had a drogba battering ram and a powerful midfield to control games and constantly siege till they score. In RM, he was blessed with cr7 and so many technically good and speedy players that can make the magic happen so easily (the counter attacks were breathtaking). But in Chelsea 2.0, you could see the problem already. A midfield that cannot dominate because they were too lightweight (Fab + Oscar). Everyone knows the only threat is hazard and the occasional Fabregas throughball because the rest of the squad was useless despite being 'flair players'. Chelsea 2.0 squad did not suit mourinho's style at all. Roman probably thought more flair players means we can play like barca, but mourinho can't make teams play that way. I think mourinho needs one more powerful top central midfielder and to replace the old defence to be dominant. The offence is already quality. I think the squad looks poised to be a force next season with the right upgrades. | ||
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Greg_J
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edit: 'There is only one way West Brom can stay up, and this is how. On Tuesday, Swansea and Southampton must draw in their meeting in Wales, and on the final day of the season on Sunday, 13 May Swansea must lose at home to Stoke and Southampton must be beaten at home to Manchester City. West Brom have to win at Crystal Palace in their final match and the Baggies must improve their goal difference to be better than Southampton's.' finger's crossed in the midlands. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
ouch Fergie-san please take my energy つ ◕_◕ ༽つ | ||
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Pandemona
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HsDLTitich
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It's a shitty thing to do, he already did the same with Mazzarri or Higuain in the past, but we're kinda used with his antics by now... | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
And yeah Sarri English is what i thought could be big issue as well, not only does he not know English but he is very old to "learn" it easily at 59. But hey the way Napoli play out from the back is awesome and he is such a well organised tactician, just whether or not he can do that in England. Be interesting appointment. Also the Spurs link is so interesting, Poch said after the semi final defeat to Yanited "it might take another manager to win something here" or something like this, so will Poch be leaving? | ||
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city42
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On May 06 2018 22:38 Pandemona wrote: Oh right fair enough then from Laurentis, i thought he was doing it thinking he knew more than the manager etc. And yeah Sarri English is what i thought could be big issue as well, not only does he not know English but he is very old to "learn" it easily at 59. But hey the way Napoli play out from the back is awesome and he is such a well organised tactician, just whether or not he can do that in England. Be interesting appointment. Also the Spurs link is so interesting, Poch said after the semi final defeat to Yanited "it might take another manager to win something here" or something like this, so will Poch be leaving? I've been too busy to post lately but had to comment on this. It wouldn't surprise me if Poch leaves soon. Spurs had the best defensive record in the PL last season. Less than 12 months later, look at that back 4 now: Walker: sold to Man City Alderweireld: 100% leaving this summer because of money Rose: spoke out publicly against Spurs' transfer/wage policy last summer and is now Davies' backup, despite being a much better player. Almost certain to leave this summer. I'd be gutted if Poch leaves, but why would he want to stay if key players are sold every summer? edit: Dembele will definitely leave also, again for financial reasons. Best of luck replacing him! | ||
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massivez
Belgium653 Posts
On May 06 2018 22:38 Pandemona wrote: Oh right fair enough then from Laurentis, i thought he was doing it thinking he knew more than the manager etc. And yeah Sarri English is what i thought could be big issue as well, not only does he not know English but he is very old to "learn" it easily at 59. But hey the way Napoli play out from the back is awesome and he is such a well organised tactician, just whether or not he can do that in England. Be interesting appointment. Also the Spurs link is so interesting, Poch said after the semi final defeat to Yanited "it might take another manager to win something here" or something like this, so will Poch be leaving? Actually, Sarri's english is pretty good. He worked as a banker in London till his 40s. He rolled into coaching through the amateur divisions, and worked his way up the ladder for 15 years now. That's pretty impressive considering he didn't have any prior football experience. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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sneirac
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On May 06 2018 23:45 sneirac wrote: Thenewera you deserve to get relegated for that goal alone, that was amazing I'm so done. Edit: Wollte eh schon immer mal nach Großaspach | ||
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