EPT2017 - 2018 Football Thread - Page 249
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
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haitike
Spain2744 Posts
On April 18 2018 04:36 Rebs wrote: Barcelona is getting absolutely owned by Celta Vigo. They arent behind but this a team that has been coached out of playing the kind of football that they used to play. Its really not fun. Granted its a mostly second string but the Messi dependency has never been more painfully obvious. And they might even get ahead because of the superior attacking prowess.. but its sooo... Mou footy.. its ugly  EDIT: Whaddaya know, golazo on a half chance..this will only encourage this stuff. Although the goal seems to have perked them up. Balaidos is one of Barcelona cursed stadiums (with Anoeta). We loose points against Celta most seasons . The match is great and Dennis Suarez is playing very well, he should have played more this season. Valverde should have rotated more the main squad this season in liga, they are too tired because of the lack or rotation. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On April 18 2018 05:17 haitike wrote: Balaidos is one of Barcelona cursed stadiums (with Anoeta). We loose most seasons points against Celta. The match is great and Dennis Suarez is playing very well. He should have played more this season. Valverde should have rotated more the main squad, they are too tired because of the lack or rotation. I know, this fact is not lost on me, but that's a terrible excuse for being so heavily second best. The most it does is increases the other teams belief, which while dangerous again is hardly a valid excuse. I dont buy the fatigue argument either. Barca has played this game like a standard Atleti game that Atleti plays against teams more skilled then them. | ||
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haitike
Spain2744 Posts
At least the match is fun (already 2-2). Aspas is awesome, I hope he plays with Spain this summer. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On April 19 2018 06:15 TheNewEra wrote: well that were some crazy last 20 minutes in Schalke vs Frankfurt I'm curious were you watching this on ARD? Because the Sky commentator spent 5 minutes trash talking the VAR until someone finally told him that it VAR couldn't intervene at all. | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On April 19 2018 06:20 sneirac wrote: I'm curious were you watching this on ARD? Because the Sky commentator spent 5 minutes trash talking the VAR until someone finally told him that it VAR couldn't intervene at all. Yes I was watching it on ARD. Just like the Sky Commentator Gerd Gottlob didn't realise VAR couldn't intervene,too, but he still thought the decision was probably correct. His argumentation being that even with the replays he wasn't 100% sure if it was handball or not and considering the ref had prime view the ref must be right then | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On April 19 2018 06:28 TheNewEra wrote: Yes I was watching it on ARD. Just like the Sky Commentator Gerd Gottlob didn't realise VAR couldn't intervene,too, but he still thought the decision was probably correct. His argumentation being that even with the replays he wasn't 100% sure if it was handball or not and considering the ref had prime view the ref must be right then -.- blergh I can actually follow that argument tho, I could have sworn that was a handball from how he controlled it in the live pictures and claiming that the referee shouldn't have made a decision is not how it is supposed to work either. Gifs for anyone interested: First VAR usage: https://streamable.com/wbxcu controversy/VAR non usage in added time: https://streamja.com/akMQ | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On April 19 2018 06:52 sneirac wrote: I can actually follow that argument tho, I could have sworn that was a handball from how he controlled it in the live pictures and claiming that the referee shouldn't have made a decision is not how it is supposed to work either. Yeah I agree with you there. Seeing it live and in the 1st replay it definitely looked like a handball. So I could understand Gottlobs reasoning, too. In the end Hartmann was an idiot to not just wait a sec with the whistle just to be safe. | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2119 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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HsDLTitich
Italy831 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On April 19 2018 06:28 TheNewEra wrote: Yes I was watching it on ARD. Just like the Sky Commentator Gerd Gottlob didn't realise VAR couldn't intervene,too, but he still thought the decision was probably correct. His argumentation being that even with the replays he wasn't 100% sure if it was handball or not and considering the ref had prime view the ref must be right then I think that's a situation in which you can't use VAR, correct? The replay makes it look pretty clear that it didn't actually hit his arm. Probably makes a good argument for expanding VAR usage. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On April 19 2018 19:53 HsDLTitich wrote: Juve drawing with Crotone and suddenly it's on again... gonna be a fun game this sunday at Turin, but Napoli doesn't win away with Juve since ages and even if they win the bianconeri will still be one point ahead. Yeah just noticed that wow, Juventus have to play both Milan clubs still to so a draw might not be a disaster for Napoli either. Inter look good and Milan well they kinda found a bit of "form" right under Gattuso. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On April 19 2018 20:45 Stratos_speAr wrote: I think that's a situation in which you can't use VAR, correct? The replay makes it look pretty clear that it didn't actually hit his arm. Probably makes a good argument for expanding VAR usage. Yes, VAR couldn't be used because the referee stopped the game before the goal was scored, so it isn't one of the 4 situations that VAR is allowed to review. And even if you did allow VAR to review it despite it technically only being an offensive foul/freekick, the best outcome would be a ref ball for the attacking team. Can't award a goal that didn't happen in the first place. Like Thenewera said in his other post the only thing that would have helped here is if the referee had waited "to allow an advantage", that doesn't really work either. If he thinks it was a handball he had to make the decision regardless of what could have happened afterwards. Meanwhile FIFA wants to explain VAR usage/show it on the stadium screens (after decision is made). Interesting to see if it works out in a less partisan atmosphere, maybe they will then trial it elsewhere after all. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/43820565 | ||
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sharkie
Austria18763 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
either the referee clearly missed something and is overruled by var or var asks ref to look at replay to rejudge | ||
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