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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2119 Posts
April 19 2018 13:36 GMT
#4981
Can't find any footage on Alonso's offence. Was it a clear cut thing?
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
April 19 2018 13:50 GMT
#4982
On April 19 2018 21:03 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2018 19:53 HsDLTitich wrote:
Juve drawing with Crotone and suddenly it's on again... gonna be a fun game this sunday at Turin, but Napoli doesn't win away with Juve since ages and even if they win the bianconeri will still be one point ahead.

Yeah just noticed that wow, Juventus have to play both Milan clubs still to so a draw might not be a disaster for Napoli either. Inter look good and Milan well they kinda found a bit of "form" right under Gattuso.


Crotone scored with a bicycle kick too, Juventus supporters gonna have nightmares about bikes soon
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
April 19 2018 13:50 GMT
#4983
On April 19 2018 22:36 Bacillus wrote:
Can't find any footage on Alonso's offence. Was it a clear cut thing?

Could have sworn there was better quality/angle but can't find it now either

https://streamable.com/0fj68

+ Show Spoiler [Mike Dean not seeing it] +
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And a fun graph for possession fan Pande

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possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2119 Posts
April 19 2018 13:52 GMT
#4984
Cheers for the Alonso clip. Also loving the Leicester possession stat there.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 19 2018 14:04 GMT
#4985
How is Mike Dean still allowed to officiate games at all, is there a union or something?

What if a Ref decides just to ignore VAR requests and so on?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
April 19 2018 14:38 GMT
#4986
I don't think anyone has any idea how refereeing oversight actually works, including htose that actually do it.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28914 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-19 14:41:50
April 19 2018 14:39 GMT
#4987
On April 19 2018 18:55 Bacillus wrote:
Btw, Burnley is on a 5 game winning streak in PL and has a pretty legit shot at finishing above Arsenal at this rate.


52 points with 33 goals scored, 0.63 goals per point. that's pretty amazing tbh - I just briefly looked through the table for the past 15 years and the second lowest average was 0.74 goals per point. Average for all clubs this season is pretty much exactly 1 goal per point.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2119 Posts
April 19 2018 15:02 GMT
#4988
On April 19 2018 23:39 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2018 18:55 Bacillus wrote:
Btw, Burnley is on a 5 game winning streak in PL and has a pretty legit shot at finishing above Arsenal at this rate.


52 points with 33 goals scored, 0.63 goals per point. that's pretty amazing tbh - I just briefly looked through the table for the past 15 years and the second lowest average was 0.74 goals per point. Average for all clubs this season is pretty much exactly 1 goal per point.

Also interestingly they've scored something like 11 goals in the last 5 games. That's one third of their whole season total.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
April 19 2018 16:54 GMT
#4989
On April 19 2018 21:28 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2018 20:45 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On April 19 2018 06:28 TheNewEra wrote:
On April 19 2018 06:20 sneirac wrote:
On April 19 2018 06:15 TheNewEra wrote:
well that were some crazy last 20 minutes in Schalke vs Frankfurt

I'm curious were you watching this on ARD? Because the Sky commentator spent 5 minutes trash talking the VAR until someone finally told him that it VAR couldn't intervene at all.

Yes I was watching it on ARD. Just like the Sky Commentator Gerd Gottlob didn't realise VAR couldn't intervene,too, but he still thought the decision was probably correct. His argumentation being that even with the replays he wasn't 100% sure if it was handball or not and considering the ref had prime view the ref must be right then


I think that's a situation in which you can't use VAR, correct?

The replay makes it look pretty clear that it didn't actually hit his arm. Probably makes a good argument for expanding VAR usage.

Yes, VAR couldn't be used because the referee stopped the game before the goal was scored, so it isn't one of the 4 situations that VAR is allowed to review. And even if you did allow VAR to review it despite it technically only being an offensive foul/freekick, the best outcome would be a ref ball for the attacking team.
Can't award a goal that didn't happen in the first place. Like Thenewera said in his other post the only thing that would have helped here is if the referee had waited "to allow an advantage", that doesn't really work either. If he thinks it was a handball he had to make the decision regardless of what could have happened afterwards.


Meanwhile FIFA wants to explain VAR usage/show it on the stadium screens (after decision is made). Interesting to see if it works out in a less partisan atmosphere, maybe they will then trial it elsewhere after all.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/43820565


I think this could open up a discussion about allowing goals even if they technically "didn't happen". For example, in hockey if a player has the puck and is moving toward an empty net with no one to stop him but is brought down from behind by a defending player, he is automatically awarded the goal even if he didn't even take a shot.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
April 19 2018 18:32 GMT
#4990
On April 20 2018 01:54 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2018 21:28 sneirac wrote:
On April 19 2018 20:45 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On April 19 2018 06:28 TheNewEra wrote:
On April 19 2018 06:20 sneirac wrote:
On April 19 2018 06:15 TheNewEra wrote:
well that were some crazy last 20 minutes in Schalke vs Frankfurt

I'm curious were you watching this on ARD? Because the Sky commentator spent 5 minutes trash talking the VAR until someone finally told him that it VAR couldn't intervene at all.

Yes I was watching it on ARD. Just like the Sky Commentator Gerd Gottlob didn't realise VAR couldn't intervene,too, but he still thought the decision was probably correct. His argumentation being that even with the replays he wasn't 100% sure if it was handball or not and considering the ref had prime view the ref must be right then


I think that's a situation in which you can't use VAR, correct?

The replay makes it look pretty clear that it didn't actually hit his arm. Probably makes a good argument for expanding VAR usage.

Yes, VAR couldn't be used because the referee stopped the game before the goal was scored, so it isn't one of the 4 situations that VAR is allowed to review. And even if you did allow VAR to review it despite it technically only being an offensive foul/freekick, the best outcome would be a ref ball for the attacking team.
Can't award a goal that didn't happen in the first place. Like Thenewera said in his other post the only thing that would have helped here is if the referee had waited "to allow an advantage", that doesn't really work either. If he thinks it was a handball he had to make the decision regardless of what could have happened afterwards.


Meanwhile FIFA wants to explain VAR usage/show it on the stadium screens (after decision is made). Interesting to see if it works out in a less partisan atmosphere, maybe they will then trial it elsewhere after all.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/43820565


I think this could open up a discussion about allowing goals even if they technically "didn't happen". For example, in hockey if a player has the puck and is moving toward an empty net with no one to stop him but is brought down from behind by a defending player, he is automatically awarded the goal even if he didn't even take a shot.


getting football dinosaur minds to change that about the game is pretty much 0% chance.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 19 2018 19:29 GMT
#4991
IMO they should have been less ambitious to start. Step 1 is simply having video referees only do the "objective" stuff like out of bounds and goals. Once people were comfortable with that they could have added penalty decisions and card review, particularly in the case were a card is issued to the defender, while the play in reality was an unsporting flop (essentially swapping the cards from one player to another).

Nothing else is really broken enough to justify it.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-19 21:48:23
April 19 2018 21:47 GMT
#4992
I just realized, but with Atleti losing today. Barca could win the title if they win the next game and then beat Madrid at home. Lel.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
April 19 2018 22:28 GMT
#4993
On April 20 2018 06:47 Rebs wrote:
I just realized, but with Atleti losing today. Barca could win the title if they win the next game and then beat Madrid at home. Lel.

They only need one win. 2nd tiebreaker is head to head and they beat and drew Atletico.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-20 00:48:48
April 20 2018 00:47 GMT
#4994
On April 20 2018 07:28 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2018 06:47 Rebs wrote:
I just realized, but with Atleti losing today. Barca could win the title if they win the next game and then beat Madrid at home. Lel.

They only need one win. 2nd tiebreaker is head to head and they beat and drew Atletico.


Oh for some reason I thought they had 81 points... yeah Just the one.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 20 2018 01:42 GMT
#4995
Or Barca could lose both games...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
April 20 2018 02:35 GMT
#4996
orrrr they could tie next week so they can win the week after !
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 20 2018 08:05 GMT
#4997


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
April 20 2018 09:03 GMT
#4998
holy shit its happening

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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 20 2018 09:07 GMT
#4999
Rip Arsenalfantv
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18763 Posts
April 20 2018 09:10 GMT
#5000
what will arsenal fans do when they cant hate on Arsene anymore and realise he was getting the best out of these players after all? :p
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