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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 06 2014 17:13 GMT
#401
It's weird because last year everyone seemed really down on Kyrie, most people would have said "Wall > Irving" if you asked what pg you'd rather have on your team. And then... after LeBron announced he's going back to Cleveland, suddenly everyone decided to think Kyrie is some kinda god tier pg again.

When has he shown he's anything more than a 2010's Stephon Marbury/Steve Francis.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
November 06 2014 17:23 GMT
#402
On November 07 2014 02:13 Xeris wrote:
It's weird because last year everyone seemed really down on Kyrie, most people would have said "Wall > Irving" if you asked what pg you'd rather have on your team. And then... after LeBron announced he's going back to Cleveland, suddenly everyone decided to think Kyrie is some kinda god tier pg again.

When has he shown he's anything more than a 2010's Stephon Marbury/Steve Francis.


well he played well on the WC team even though his selection was controversial due to the dook ties
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
November 06 2014 19:37 GMT
#403
On November 07 2014 02:23 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2014 02:13 Xeris wrote:
It's weird because last year everyone seemed really down on Kyrie, most people would have said "Wall > Irving" if you asked what pg you'd rather have on your team. And then... after LeBron announced he's going back to Cleveland, suddenly everyone decided to think Kyrie is some kinda god tier pg again.

When has he shown he's anything more than a 2010's Stephon Marbury/Steve Francis.


well he played well on the WC team even though his selection was controversial due to the dook ties

Also all-star MVP showing that Kyrie has skills but then again, it's the all-star game.


Grizzlies might end up being the last undefeated team in the league. Thunder, Bucks, Lakers then kings.

Rocket's face Spurs then Warriors. It'd be nice if Rockets and Warriors were undefeated when they face each other.
Warriors next five opponents are good teams.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-06 20:37:15
November 06 2014 19:57 GMT
#404
Latest reports say no Belinelli (mild groin strain), Duncan (rest), Ginobili (rest), Mills (right shoulder) or Splitter (tightness right calf) v. HOU tonight.

Terrence Jones is still out for the Rockets.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 06 2014 20:23 GMT
#405
On November 07 2014 02:23 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2014 02:13 Xeris wrote:
It's weird because last year everyone seemed really down on Kyrie, most people would have said "Wall > Irving" if you asked what pg you'd rather have on your team. And then... after LeBron announced he's going back to Cleveland, suddenly everyone decided to think Kyrie is some kinda god tier pg again.

When has he shown he's anything more than a 2010's Stephon Marbury/Steve Francis.


well he played well on the WC team even though his selection was controversial due to the dook ties

that team had enough defensive players to cover for him when the going got tough

i like kyrie but he's still the same player in the last 2 years, we'll see if lebron changes the way he plays or they keep sucking
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 06 2014 20:50 GMT
#406
On November 07 2014 02:13 Xeris wrote:
It's weird because last year everyone seemed really down on Kyrie, most people would have said "Wall > Irving" if you asked what pg you'd rather have on your team. And then... after LeBron announced he's going back to Cleveland, suddenly everyone decided to think Kyrie is some kinda god tier pg again.

When has he shown he's anything more than a 2010's Stephon Marbury/Steve Francis.

I would still take Wall over Irving. Irving has his flaws but he's still one of the better point guards in the league
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 06 2014 21:48 GMT
#407
irving is whatever, he'll probably get better. but waiters, not so much
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 06 2014 22:18 GMT
#408
Lebron has the right mindset, imo. He can win games by himself right now by dominating the ball but that's not going to work in the long run. They need to get comfortable playing a functional offense. It's going to be tough when they're still in the early stages of it.

The top coaches in the league are very good at it. Popovich is willing to sacrifice regular season wins practicing new sets. He and Phil Jackson are good at giving certain bench guys regular minutes in the regular season to see if they can make a playoff contribution.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
November 06 2014 22:32 GMT
#409
I really like the kyrie/Marbury comparison. Kyrie is nowhere near as toxic but they have eerily similar games.

The Cavs absolutely need to move waiters. He has lockeroom cancer written all over him.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 06 2014 23:56 GMT
#410
+ Show Spoiler [Article about D.Wade shotblocking] +

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Dwyane Wade's strong hands, anticipation skills and wingspan make him a great shot-blocking guard.

Welcome to the 700 club, Dwyane Wade.

On Wednesday night, Charlotte Hornets guard Lance Stephenson drove baseline past Wade and rose for a high-flying dunk in the fourth quarter. It didn't work out as planned. Wade came up from behind and swatted the ball cleanly, sending it into the front row.

And with that, Wade became the first 6-foot-4 (or shorter) player ever to break the 700-block barrier. To put it in perspective, the next-tallest player listed 6-4 or under on the active list is Tony Allen at 257 blocks, followed by Kirk Hinrich (227) and Andre Miller (221). Those three combined? 705. Just about Wade's total all by himself.

Pulling up my Block Party database from NBA StatsCube, there are 340 NBA players on Wade's career victim list. That was Wade's second block of Stephenson, making him the 150th player to be blocked by Wade multiple times in his career.

Wade currently has the highest block rate for any guard in NBA history (minimum 150 games), according to Basketball-Reference.com. He has blocked an estimated 1.4 percent of all 2-pointers taken while he's on the floor. He has averaged 1.0 block per game, which is more than any guard.

But if you look at Wade's 700 blocks, one trend jumps off the page: He has a knack for denying the big man.

We've seen this recently. On Sunday, he blocked the near-7-foot Jonas Valanciunas twice. Want to guess the player Wade has blocked the most?

Dwight Howard. Yep. Nine times.

Actually, Wade has blocked Joe Johnson, Vince Carter and John Salmons nine times each, as well. But Howard's name is right there with them. (Below is an infographic that illustrates which NBA players Wade has blocked the most; the larger the player's name, the more times Wade has blocked him.)

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On Tuesday night, I caught up with Howard in the locker room after the Rockets beat the Heat and told him that Wade was coming up on 700 blocks for his career.

I began to ask him: "You know who he has blocked the..."

"Me," Howard interjected.

Yup.

"I could see that," Howard said with a grin, "especially when Orlando and Miami had that rivalry. He was good at coming weak side going in on my hook shots. I was worried about my man and he'd come block it."

But the one that stands out for Howard was not of the hook-shot variety. It was a dunk attempt gone wrong.

"He had one where he pinned it to the glass," Howard said. "With two hands."

Indeed, it came in the second quarter of a game in Orlando back in the 2010-11 season. Howard, a bit stunned by the move, slowly trotted back on defense as Wade zigzagged the other way for a lay-in. One of nine.

"For a guard, most of those guys stay out of the way," Howard said. "But he likes to come block shots and amp up the crowd."

No doubt Wade has been on his fair share of posters before. Taj Gibson can tell you that. No shot-blocker hasn't been embarrassed at the rim at times.

But Wade has also had his glory at the top of the mountain. Howard isn't the only big man who has gotten the Wade treatment. Wade has blocked 7-footers Brook Lopez and Pau Gasol six times each. Jermaine O'Neal, Amar'e Stoudemire, David West, Spencer Hawes -- all blocked at least four times by Wade.

The tallest player that Wade has ever blocked? That would be Zydrunas Ilgauskas at 7-3. Wade has also blocked four players who stand 7-2: Roy Hibbert, Greg Ostertag, Loren Woods and Jake Tsakalidis. All in all, Wade has blocked a 7-footer 48 times in his career.

In fact, 68 percent of Wade's blocks have come against players taller than him. Nearly half (47 percent) have come against players who stand 6-7 or taller. This is Wade's specialty.

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Miami coach Erik Spoelstra has been on hand for every single one of those 700 blocks, either as an assistant coach or head coach. What makes Wade such a good shot-blocking guard?

"He has ridiculously strong hands and high-level instincts," Spoelstra said. "But really it's..."

Spoelstra fully extends his arms out to his sides.

"His wingspan is a legit 7 feet."

Wade's go-go-gadget arms are essential to the craft, but to get to 700 blocks at 6-4, it can't be all about physical attributes. One NBA scout points to Wade's intuition on the court.

"He has a very high IQ and he understands that most big men, when they get it down low, aren't going to pass much," said the scout. "So he can gamble at least knowing that they won't find his man for an open shot. His length and athleticism are a big help, as well."

Another factor is the Heat's unique defensive scheme that often calls for Wade to be the low man protecting the basket. While most of Wade's blocks come on the weak side, he has met plenty of players at the rim who are expecting to get an easy layup. Wade often finds himself at the right place at the right time. But he also has the right disposition to make the play.

"There just aren't many guards who are willing to play like a big man," Spoelstra said. "But [Wade] is just wired like that."

Among Wade's current teammates, Luol Deng has been swatted the most by Wade: six times.

"He's got six blocks on me?" Deng said, laughing. "Thanks for telling me that, man."

Deng also praised Wade's ability to sneak in without getting noticed.

"He gets a lot of blocks from the weak side," Deng said. "You just don't see him. He's really mastered that. He's probably the best at it."
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 07 2014 00:11 GMT
#411
I was thinking about that today and pondering that, while you block the ball with your hands, shot blocking has almost nothing to do with your hands. Wingspan and a quick hop helps, but it's mostly anticipation, good positioning and reaction.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
November 07 2014 03:37 GMT
#412
Rockets smash. No Duncan or Ginobilli, but Rockets had 2 starters out too. Big game Saturday Rockets vs Warriors.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 07 2014 04:01 GMT
#413
lol hard to take that spurs lineup seriously against howard.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
November 07 2014 04:20 GMT
#414
Now we know that third string centers can't stand up to the best center in the game, glad that's cleared up.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-07 04:41:48
November 07 2014 04:35 GMT
#415
Maybe one day the league will figure out not to schedule the Spurs for primetime games on back to backs.

Hmm, wonder where Splitter is.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
November 07 2014 04:54 GMT
#416
one of these days shaq and barkley will fight on tv
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 07 2014 05:19 GMT
#417
parsons getting owned by blazers is very satisfying
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
November 07 2014 05:24 GMT
#418
Dallas isn't moving the ball as well as they normally do. Might have to do w/ ellis's foul trouble.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 07 2014 05:28 GMT
#419
The bad 3rd quarter for dallas is a weird stat. I have to assume its just random right now, because usually Dallas is great there, because its basically the coach's quarter.
Freeeeeeedom
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
November 07 2014 11:21 GMT
#420
On November 07 2014 13:20 seiferoth10 wrote:
Now we know that third string centers can't stand up to the best center in the game, glad that's cleared up.


AFAIK neither one of Tim Duncan and Matt Bonner got traded to the rockets.
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