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sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 06 2015 20:54 GMT
#3941
@Pande

Just had like five replays and 3 angles on Sky Germany but I forgot to start my recording stuff.
That was a really weird situation, you can't see anything in real time but in the replay/other angle there is a tug on Neymar's shoulder by Rafinha. Markus Merk's take on that was that it wasn't enough contact for a pen but definitely not a dive.
Still it did look like the ref was getting his red card and he was stopped by Neuer initiating the fast break attempt that led to the 1:0.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2108 Posts
May 06 2015 20:56 GMT
#3942
i don't doubt there's many officials in the inner circle of bayern münchen and fans as well outside who looks forward to guardiolas departure, with the change of playstyle, there's rumours how many bayern people doesn't like guardiolas playstyle and philisophy.

as for me, it's like watching another version of barcelona, barca playstyle is good but keep it to barca, i liked the attacking playstyle before with heynkes more.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 06 2015 20:56 GMT
#3943
Did anyone see if neuer was nutmegged by neymar in the 3rd goal?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-06 21:00:06
May 06 2015 20:58 GMT
#3944
What's with the excuses of injury?
We already know that Pep is directly responsible for TWO injuries Bayern have suffered in the last two years (Thiago over a year and Robben last week).

Who's to say he isn't responsible for the other players as well? He doesn't give his players enough rest, no wonder they all get injured.

Also he fucking let KROOS go.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 06 2015 20:58 GMT
#3945
On May 07 2015 05:56 Steveling wrote:
Did anyone see if neuer was nutmegged by neymar in the 3rd goal?

Went through Neuer's legs if that is what you're asking
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 06 2015 20:59 GMT
#3946
On May 07 2015 05:58 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 05:56 Steveling wrote:
Did anyone see if neuer was nutmegged by neymar in the 3rd goal?

Went through Neuer's legs if that is what you're asking


Yeah, thanks.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-06 21:02:56
May 06 2015 21:00 GMT
#3947
On May 07 2015 05:53 Belha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 05:38 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:37 sharkie wrote:
Bye byeee Pep.
Heynkes left behind a perfect team. So sad to see what happened to it.


Truth. That team was special and then Pep had to come in and do...whatever the hell he ended up doing to result in this.

Heynkes faced the lowest form Messi of his life (in fact he only played one game).
Guardiola faced the injury of Roben + Ribery + Alaba + Javi, plus the best Messi in the last 3 years.
If you still think this is Guardiola's fault, then, good for you.
I'm convinced that Bayern could have won this game with Roben and Ribery.


Yes, the circumstances were different. However, Pep has all the resources to do better. He was completely embarrassed last year again Real Madrid and, so far, has been dominated by Barcelona. Furthermore, his team lost in the DFB Pokal to a BVB that doesn't even have the quality to be in a Europa League spot, let alone a CL spot. Finally, there's a lot that can be discussed about Bayern's injury situation; why in the FUCK did he send Robben onto the field against BVB to get him injured? And how to you end up with this many injuries this consistently with one of (if not the) best sports medicine docs in Europe?

It's not "Pep = terribad", but he definitely has some things to answer for in his time at Bayern.

Not that I care that much. Yea, I'd love to see a German team represent, and I'd really love to see a German team win it in Germany (Thanks for the fucking failure in Munich in 2012 Bayern. How does a GERMAN TEAM LOSE ON PENALTIES?!), but as Sharkie said, it's immensely satisfying to see Bayern lose now.

Which neutral fan? You're far from being neutral, you hate Pep You guys live in your German/Austrian world where Bayern is the enemy, it's not the case outside of these countries.

It's just typical human behaviour to hate the winners... So Barça at that time, Bayern now, Barça next year after they win the treble for sure


His whole point was that us fans of the German game use to still cheer on Bayern in these situations, even though they're the Evil Empire. Now we don't, and at least from my experience (me and others I know), he's right.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
May 06 2015 21:03 GMT
#3948
On May 07 2015 05:59 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 05:58 sneirac wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:56 Steveling wrote:
Did anyone see if neuer was nutmegged by neymar in the 3rd goal?

Went through Neuer's legs if that is what you're asking


Yeah, thanks.

That's pretty normal in a 1-on-1 with the goal keeper, it's actually one of the best options.
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-06 21:06:41
May 06 2015 21:04 GMT
#3949
Robben's old injury was in his stomach and the new one is in the leg, no? Didn't read anything about it but you can't blame Guardiola for that injury, do you?

A match like today gets me pretty hyped for Bayern's next transfer window.
e: I could never cheer for Bayern what is everybody talking about? I know very few people who do that even though it could mean that our clubs lose their cl/el spots should Germany decrease it's ranking.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
May 06 2015 21:06 GMT
#3950
On May 07 2015 06:04 smr wrote:
Robben's old injury was in his stomach and the new one is in the leg, no? Didn't read anything about it but you can't blame Guardiola for that injury, do you?

A match like today gets me pretty hyped for Bayern's next transfer window.


Guardiola subbed in Robben in the DFB cup while his body was still recovering. You don't do that.
Robben's injury is 100% Pep's mistake.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
May 06 2015 21:07 GMT
#3951
On May 07 2015 06:04 smr wrote:
Robben's old injury was in his stomach and the new one is in the leg, no? Didn't read anything about it but you can't blame Guardiola for that injury, do you?

A match like today gets me pretty hyped for Bayern's next transfer window.
e: I could never cheer for Bayern what is everybody talking about? I know very few people who do that even though it could mean that our clubs lose their cl/el spots should Germany decrease it's ranking.


Being injured or healing makes you more susceptible to other injuries. And aside from that, there was just not much of a point in putting Robben on at that point. Your team should have plenty of substitute options to close down a 1-0 game against a completely impotent BVB if you are fucking Bayern Munich.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-06 21:10:55
May 06 2015 21:10 GMT
#3952


Ouch. That's not a great stat
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-06 21:12:16
May 06 2015 21:10 GMT
#3953
On May 07 2015 06:04 smr wrote:
Robben's old injury was in his stomach and the new one is in the leg, no? Didn't read anything about it but you can't blame Guardiola for that injury, do you?

A match like today gets me pretty hyped for Bayern's next transfer window.
e: I could never cheer for Bayern what is everybody talking about? I know very few people who do that even though it could mean that our clubs lose their cl/el spots should Germany decrease it's ranking.


Meh I hate Bayerns transfer periods. Not because of the players they buy but because everyone in Germany will once again go crazy how bayern buys players from other Bundesliga clubs ONLY to weaken the other teams... :D
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
May 06 2015 21:11 GMT
#3954
On May 07 2015 06:00 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 05:53 Belha wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:38 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:37 sharkie wrote:
Bye byeee Pep.
Heynkes left behind a perfect team. So sad to see what happened to it.


Truth. That team was special and then Pep had to come in and do...whatever the hell he ended up doing to result in this.

Heynkes faced the lowest form Messi of his life (in fact he only played one game).
Guardiola faced the injury of Roben + Ribery + Alaba + Javi, plus the best Messi in the last 3 years.
If you still think this is Guardiola's fault, then, good for you.
I'm convinced that Bayern could have won this game with Roben and Ribery.


Yes, the circumstances were different. However, Pep has all the resources to do better. He was completely embarrassed last year again Real Madrid and, so far, has been dominated by Barcelona. Furthermore, his team lost in the DFB Pokal to a BVB that doesn't even have the quality to be in a Europa League spot, let alone a CL spot. Finally, there's a lot that can be discussed about Bayern's injury situation; why in the FUCK did he send Robben onto the field against BVB to get him injured? And how to you end up with this many injuries this consistently with one of (if not the) best sports medicine docs in Europe?

It's not "Pep = terribad", but he definitely has some things to answer for in his time at Bayern.

Not that I care that much. Yea, I'd love to see a German team represent, and I'd really love to see a German team win it in Germany (Thanks for the fucking failure in Munich in 2012 Bayern. How does a GERMAN TEAM LOSE ON PENALTIES?!), but as Sharkie said, it's immensely satisfying to see Bayern lose now.

Show nested quote +
Which neutral fan? You're far from being neutral, you hate Pep You guys live in your German/Austrian world where Bayern is the enemy, it's not the case outside of these countries.

It's just typical human behaviour to hate the winners... So Barça at that time, Bayern now, Barça next year after they win the treble for sure


His whole point was that us fans of the German game use to still cheer on Bayern in these situations, even though they're the Evil Empire. Now we don't, and at least from my experience (me and others I know), he's right.


Yea and part of his point was that what changed was

A) Bayern won something and B) Pep came. Period he was playing a losing battle from the start.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6323 Posts
May 06 2015 21:12 GMT
#3955
On May 07 2015 06:06 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 06:04 smr wrote:
Robben's old injury was in his stomach and the new one is in the leg, no? Didn't read anything about it but you can't blame Guardiola for that injury, do you?

A match like today gets me pretty hyped for Bayern's next transfer window.


Guardiola subbed in Robben in the DFB cup while his body was still recovering. You don't do that.
Robben's injury is 100% Pep's mistake.

You don't know that. If the medical staff gave permission it's hardly Guardiola's fault. If he went against the medical staffs advice it would be on Guardiola but we simply don't know that.

Anyway I don't think it's fair to burn Guardiola or any coach for that matter if they lose against a team that's having the form of their life. A coach really doesn't have that much influence on a match.

It's kind of silly to be angry at him for the play style as well. It's how he played at Barca. It's hardly surprising he plays the same at Bayern. They should've known when they took him.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 06 2015 21:12 GMT
#3956
Can anyone explain why gotze has flopped so big?
Everywhere I see, bayern fans saying they wanna sell him.
Thiago was awesome tonight though.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-06 21:16:52
May 06 2015 21:15 GMT
#3957
On May 07 2015 06:12 Steveling wrote:
Can anyone explain why gotze has flopped so big?
Everywhere I see, bayern fans saying they wanna sell him.
Thiago was awesome tonight though.


Same reason every young player who went to a big club flops?
Too young and inexperienced and too full of himself to play at a constant high level yet.
Or its Karma, who knows.

On May 07 2015 06:12 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 06:06 sharkie wrote:
On May 07 2015 06:04 smr wrote:
Robben's old injury was in his stomach and the new one is in the leg, no? Didn't read anything about it but you can't blame Guardiola for that injury, do you?

A match like today gets me pretty hyped for Bayern's next transfer window.


Guardiola subbed in Robben in the DFB cup while his body was still recovering. You don't do that.
Robben's injury is 100% Pep's mistake.

You don't know that. If the medical staff gave permission it's hardly Guardiola's fault. If he went against the medical staffs advice it would be on Guardiola but we simply don't know that.

Anyway I don't think it's fair to burn Guardiola or any coach for that matter if they lose against a team that's having the form of their life. A coach really doesn't have that much influence on a match.

It's kind of silly to be angry at him for the play style as well. It's how he played at Barca. It's hardly surprising he plays the same at Bayern. They should've known when they took him.


Bayern had no medical staff at that point. Thanks to .... I think no need to spell it out.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-06 21:18:26
May 06 2015 21:17 GMT
#3958
On May 07 2015 06:12 Steveling wrote:
Can anyone explain why gotze has flopped so big?
Everywhere I see, bayern fans saying they wanna sell him.
Thiago was awesome tonight though.


Dortmund's peak (2012 or so) was the result of a whole that was greater than the sum of the parts.

We've already seen a number of players leave BVB and then completely flop upon leaving. It's not a huge suprise that Götze has done the same, although he is still incredibly talented.

I also think part of it may just be the system and his use. He looked quite a bit better at Bayern and he also looked better with the German National Team.

Oh yea, and another "WTF?" moment; I still don't understand why Pep let Kroos go.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
May 06 2015 21:20 GMT
#3959
On May 07 2015 06:12 Steveling wrote:
Can anyone explain why gotze has flopped so big?

Too busy increasing his marketing value on instagram, facebook etc.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 06 2015 21:20 GMT
#3960
On May 07 2015 06:17 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 06:12 Steveling wrote:
Can anyone explain why gotze has flopped so big?
Everywhere I see, bayern fans saying they wanna sell him.
Thiago was awesome tonight though.


Dortmund's peak (2012 or so) was the result of a whole that was greater than the sum of the parts.

We've already seen a number of players leave BVB and then completely flop upon leaving. It's not a huge suprise that Götze has done the same, although he is still incredibly talented.

I also think part of it may just be the system and his use. He looked quite a bit better at Bayern and he also looked better with the German National Team.

Oh yea, and another "WTF?" moment; I still don't understand why Pep let Kroos go.


Isn't it obvious? He cost too much for Bayern. Alonso is obviously the cheaper alternative... not
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