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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
Just had like five replays and 3 angles on Sky Germany but I forgot to start my recording stuff. That was a really weird situation, you can't see anything in real time but in the replay/other angle there is a tug on Neymar's shoulder by Rafinha. Markus Merk's take on that was that it wasn't enough contact for a pen but definitely not a dive. Still it did look like the ref was getting his red card and he was stopped by Neuer initiating the fast break attempt that led to the 1:0. | ||
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Copymizer
Denmark2108 Posts
as for me, it's like watching another version of barcelona, barca playstyle is good but keep it to barca, i liked the attacking playstyle before with heynkes more. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18697 Posts
We already know that Pep is directly responsible for TWO injuries Bayern have suffered in the last two years (Thiago over a year and Robben last week). Who's to say he isn't responsible for the other players as well? He doesn't give his players enough rest, no wonder they all get injured. Also he fucking let KROOS go. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On May 07 2015 05:56 Steveling wrote: Did anyone see if neuer was nutmegged by neymar in the 3rd goal? Went through Neuer's legs if that is what you're asking | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On May 07 2015 05:58 sneirac wrote: Went through Neuer's legs if that is what you're asking Yeah, thanks. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On May 07 2015 05:53 Belha wrote: Heynkes faced the lowest form Messi of his life (in fact he only played one game). Guardiola faced the injury of Roben + Ribery + Alaba + Javi, plus the best Messi in the last 3 years. If you still think this is Guardiola's fault, then, good for you. I'm convinced that Bayern could have won this game with Roben and Ribery. Yes, the circumstances were different. However, Pep has all the resources to do better. He was completely embarrassed last year again Real Madrid and, so far, has been dominated by Barcelona. Furthermore, his team lost in the DFB Pokal to a BVB that doesn't even have the quality to be in a Europa League spot, let alone a CL spot. Finally, there's a lot that can be discussed about Bayern's injury situation; why in the FUCK did he send Robben onto the field against BVB to get him injured? And how to you end up with this many injuries this consistently with one of (if not the) best sports medicine docs in Europe? It's not "Pep = terribad", but he definitely has some things to answer for in his time at Bayern. Not that I care that much. Yea, I'd love to see a German team represent, and I'd really love to see a German team win it in Germany (Thanks for the fucking failure in Munich in 2012 Bayern. How does a GERMAN TEAM LOSE ON PENALTIES?!), but as Sharkie said, it's immensely satisfying to see Bayern lose now. Which neutral fan? You're far from being neutral, you hate Pep You guys live in your German/Austrian world where Bayern is the enemy, it's not the case outside of these countries. It's just typical human behaviour to hate the winners... So Barça at that time, Bayern now, Barça next year after they win the treble for sure His whole point was that us fans of the German game use to still cheer on Bayern in these situations, even though they're the Evil Empire. Now we don't, and at least from my experience (me and others I know), he's right. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
That's pretty normal in a 1-on-1 with the goal keeper, it's actually one of the best options. | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
A match like today gets me pretty hyped for Bayern's next transfer window. e: I could never cheer for Bayern what is everybody talking about? I know very few people who do that even though it could mean that our clubs lose their cl/el spots should Germany decrease it's ranking. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18697 Posts
On May 07 2015 06:04 smr wrote: Robben's old injury was in his stomach and the new one is in the leg, no? Didn't read anything about it but you can't blame Guardiola for that injury, do you? A match like today gets me pretty hyped for Bayern's next transfer window. Guardiola subbed in Robben in the DFB cup while his body was still recovering. You don't do that. Robben's injury is 100% Pep's mistake. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On May 07 2015 06:04 smr wrote: Robben's old injury was in his stomach and the new one is in the leg, no? Didn't read anything about it but you can't blame Guardiola for that injury, do you? A match like today gets me pretty hyped for Bayern's next transfer window. e: I could never cheer for Bayern what is everybody talking about? I know very few people who do that even though it could mean that our clubs lose their cl/el spots should Germany decrease it's ranking. Being injured or healing makes you more susceptible to other injuries. And aside from that, there was just not much of a point in putting Robben on at that point. Your team should have plenty of substitute options to close down a 1-0 game against a completely impotent BVB if you are fucking Bayern Munich. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
Ouch. That's not a great stat  | ||
TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On May 07 2015 06:04 smr wrote: Robben's old injury was in his stomach and the new one is in the leg, no? Didn't read anything about it but you can't blame Guardiola for that injury, do you? A match like today gets me pretty hyped for Bayern's next transfer window. e: I could never cheer for Bayern what is everybody talking about? I know very few people who do that even though it could mean that our clubs lose their cl/el spots should Germany decrease it's ranking. Meh I hate Bayerns transfer periods. Not because of the players they buy but because everyone in Germany will once again go crazy how bayern buys players from other Bundesliga clubs ONLY to weaken the other teams... :D | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On May 07 2015 06:00 Stratos_speAr wrote: Yes, the circumstances were different. However, Pep has all the resources to do better. He was completely embarrassed last year again Real Madrid and, so far, has been dominated by Barcelona. Furthermore, his team lost in the DFB Pokal to a BVB that doesn't even have the quality to be in a Europa League spot, let alone a CL spot. Finally, there's a lot that can be discussed about Bayern's injury situation; why in the FUCK did he send Robben onto the field against BVB to get him injured? And how to you end up with this many injuries this consistently with one of (if not the) best sports medicine docs in Europe? It's not "Pep = terribad", but he definitely has some things to answer for in his time at Bayern. Not that I care that much. Yea, I'd love to see a German team represent, and I'd really love to see a German team win it in Germany (Thanks for the fucking failure in Munich in 2012 Bayern. How does a GERMAN TEAM LOSE ON PENALTIES?!), but as Sharkie said, it's immensely satisfying to see Bayern lose now. His whole point was that us fans of the German game use to still cheer on Bayern in these situations, even though they're the Evil Empire. Now we don't, and at least from my experience (me and others I know), he's right. Yea and part of his point was that what changed was A) Bayern won something and B) Pep came. Period he was playing a losing battle from the start. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6290 Posts
On May 07 2015 06:06 sharkie wrote: Guardiola subbed in Robben in the DFB cup while his body was still recovering. You don't do that. Robben's injury is 100% Pep's mistake. You don't know that. If the medical staff gave permission it's hardly Guardiola's fault. If he went against the medical staffs advice it would be on Guardiola but we simply don't know that. Anyway I don't think it's fair to burn Guardiola or any coach for that matter if they lose against a team that's having the form of their life. A coach really doesn't have that much influence on a match. It's kind of silly to be angry at him for the play style as well. It's how he played at Barca. It's hardly surprising he plays the same at Bayern. They should've known when they took him. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
Everywhere I see, bayern fans saying they wanna sell him. Thiago was awesome tonight though. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18697 Posts
On May 07 2015 06:12 Steveling wrote: Can anyone explain why gotze has flopped so big? Everywhere I see, bayern fans saying they wanna sell him. Thiago was awesome tonight though. Same reason every young player who went to a big club flops? Too young and inexperienced and too full of himself to play at a constant high level yet. Or its Karma, who knows. On May 07 2015 06:12 RvB wrote: You don't know that. If the medical staff gave permission it's hardly Guardiola's fault. If he went against the medical staffs advice it would be on Guardiola but we simply don't know that. Anyway I don't think it's fair to burn Guardiola or any coach for that matter if they lose against a team that's having the form of their life. A coach really doesn't have that much influence on a match. It's kind of silly to be angry at him for the play style as well. It's how he played at Barca. It's hardly surprising he plays the same at Bayern. They should've known when they took him. Bayern had no medical staff at that point. Thanks to .... I think no need to spell it out.  | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On May 07 2015 06:12 Steveling wrote: Can anyone explain why gotze has flopped so big? Everywhere I see, bayern fans saying they wanna sell him. Thiago was awesome tonight though. Dortmund's peak (2012 or so) was the result of a whole that was greater than the sum of the parts. We've already seen a number of players leave BVB and then completely flop upon leaving. It's not a huge suprise that Götze has done the same, although he is still incredibly talented. I also think part of it may just be the system and his use. He looked quite a bit better at Bayern and he also looked better with the German National Team. Oh yea, and another "WTF?" moment; I still don't understand why Pep let Kroos go. | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On May 07 2015 06:12 Steveling wrote: Can anyone explain why gotze has flopped so big? Too busy increasing his marketing value on instagram, facebook etc. | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On May 07 2015 06:17 Stratos_speAr wrote: Dortmund's peak (2012 or so) was the result of a whole that was greater than the sum of the parts. We've already seen a number of players leave BVB and then completely flop upon leaving. It's not a huge suprise that Götze has done the same, although he is still incredibly talented. I also think part of it may just be the system and his use. He looked quite a bit better at Bayern and he also looked better with the German National Team. Oh yea, and another "WTF?" moment; I still don't understand why Pep let Kroos go. Isn't it obvious? He cost too much for Bayern. Alonso is obviously the cheaper alternative... not | ||
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